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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #176: September 18, 2022, 04:53:40 PM »
Padres have to stop trading short stops to the Nats




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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #180: September 25, 2022, 09:47:24 PM »
Looks like we have our shortstop of the future. I wonder if they can move Brady House to third.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #181: September 25, 2022, 10:07:26 PM »
Looks like we have our shortstop of the future. I wonder if they can move Brady House to third.
Brady who?

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #182: September 25, 2022, 10:21:13 PM »
Looks like we have our shortstop of the future. I wonder if they can move Brady House to third.
Don't worry too much about Brady House or any prospect until he’s at least in AA.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #183: September 25, 2022, 10:21:55 PM »
Padres have to stop trading SS prospects to the Nationals.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #184: September 25, 2022, 10:26:40 PM »
Padres have to stop trading SS prospects to the Nationals.

No they don’t

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #185: September 26, 2022, 11:30:34 PM »
Don't worry too much about Brady House or any prospect until he’s at least in AA.

He's the 5th rated Nats prospect and was first or second before the Soto trade. He's projected to hit the majors the year after next. Abrams isn't going anywhere. Why not give him time at third next year. Worked pretty well for Machado.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #186: September 26, 2022, 11:36:34 PM »
He's the 5th rated Nats prospect and was first or second before the Soto trade. He's projected to hit the majors the year after next. Abrams isn't going anywhere. Why not give him time at third next year. Worked pretty well for Machado.
He played in Single A this year and missed the last two months of the year with a mysterious back ailment.  He will probably have to start Single A again next year.   

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #187: September 27, 2022, 10:31:23 AM »
He's the 5th rated Nats prospect and was first or second before the Soto trade. He's projected to hit the majors the year after next. Abrams isn't going anywhere. Why not give him time at third next year. Worked pretty well for Machado.
I thought he would be a Top 25 prospect in baseball before one day he vanished.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #188: September 27, 2022, 11:24:17 AM »
House is a huge question mark right now. Best case is that he starts next year in A+ and is healthy, and arrives in the majors in 2024.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #189: September 27, 2022, 04:21:23 PM »
House is a huge question mark right now. Best case is that he starts next year in A+ and is healthy, and arrives in the majors in 2024.
that's sort of a hyper best case.  GCL then Fredericksburg, and if that's well, close at Wilmington.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #190: September 27, 2022, 04:26:02 PM »
that's sort of a hyper best case.  GCL then Fredericksburg, and if that's well, close at Wilmington.

if he's healthy i imagine he starts in Wilmington at high A. If not, who knows. He was doing well at low-A, so no need to keep him there especially since the plan was for him to work out this off-season at Ft. Myers.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #191: September 27, 2022, 07:38:42 PM »
The Nats project House to arrive in the majors the year after next. If you're confident in Abrams what's the downside of playing him at third next year. If he hits and can play third you have a young left side of the infield for the next 5 years.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #192: September 27, 2022, 07:47:16 PM »
The Nats project House to arrive in the majors the year after next. If you're confident in Abrams what's the downside of playing him at third next year. If he hits and can play third you have a young left side of the infield for the next 5 years.
I've also seen projections from this summer saying that his ETA was 2026.  He's starting next year at < 20 years of age and coming off an injury that knocked out half a season.  I suspect they will not push him and have him penciled in anytime before late 2024, more likely 2025.  I don't think they move him off SS until 2024 at the earliest.
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/washington-nationals-top-29-prospects-2022/

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #193: September 27, 2022, 10:05:16 PM »
The Nats project House to arrive in the majors the year after next. If you're confident in Abrams what's the downside of playing him at third next year. If he hits and can play third you have a young left side of the infield for the next 5 years.

He just turned 19 over the summer and has a total of 61 games as a pro.  The chances of a guy with that profile playing in the majors in 2 years, let alone at a position he's never played, are vanishingly small.   

I don't understand prospect services' estimates of guys' arrival dates.  If you pencil them out, you'll see they project the majors as being perpetually full of 20- and 21-year-old rookies.  How many 21-year-olds played in the majors this year?  Maybe 15, exactly four of whom were on opening day rosters.  How about 20-year-olds? I think the answer to that might be zero. 

I mean, heck, MLB - which has recently gotten much better about this after having been so bad in the past that they deleted their old ETA projections - still has an ETA on Hassell of 2023.  Dude has a total of 108 PAs in AA, during which he looked overmatched.  They project Noelvi Marte - one of the guys in the Luis Castillo trade, who is 20, has never played above high-A, and is blocked by two top-100 prospects at his position plus a former top prospect presently flopping but not out of runway on that org's MLB team - as arriving in 2023.  What about either of those situations suggests a guy who will play in the majors next year?

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #194: September 27, 2022, 10:11:37 PM »
Think maybe y'all might wanna hold off on projecting House until he can play a season without a bav back injury that takes 6 months to heal.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #195: September 27, 2022, 10:14:46 PM »
 
I mean, heck, MLB - which has recently gotten much better about this after having been so bad in the past that they deleted their old ETA projections - still has an ETA on Hassell of 2023.  Dude has a total of 108 PAs in AA, during which he looked overmatched.  They project Noelvi Marte - one of the guys in the Luis Castillo trade, who is 20, has never played above high-A, and is blocked by two top-100 prospects at his position plus a former top prospect presently flopping but not out of runway on that org's MLB team - as arriving in 2023.  What about either of those situations suggests a guy who will play in the majors next year?

Well Marte has 200+ minor league games under his belt and has actually hit well above rookie ball.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #196: Yesterday at 08:54:08 AM »
Frankly, it's much more realistic to project House as Abrams replacement when we deal Abrams in 3-4 years for prospects than it is to project them playing side-by-side next season.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #197: Yesterday at 09:18:10 AM »
Frankly, it's much more realistic to project House as Abrams replacement when we deal Abrams in 3-4 years for prospects than it is to project them playing side-by-side next season.
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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #198: Yesterday at 09:51:14 AM »
Frankly, it's much more realistic to project House as Abrams replacement when we deal Abrams in 3-4 years for prospects than it is to project them playing side-by-side next season.
This is the most worst post ever made on WNFF.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #199: Yesterday at 10:10:27 AM »
This is the most worst post ever made on WNFF.
Right. Cus House is going to third. Cruz is Abrams replacement in 3-4 years when we trade him