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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #275: July 26, 2023, 05:54:43 PM »
really might want to think about extending Abrams.
you sort of hate to do that when his position I think is in flux (SS or 2nd or even the OF), but if you end up confident in his bat at the end of the year, then you think about it. If you can sign him to an Albies deal, then go for it and figure out the position later.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #276: July 26, 2023, 05:58:03 PM »
Lol, he's not signing the Albies deal

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #277: July 26, 2023, 06:00:54 PM »
Lol, he's not signing the Albies deal
what if we gave his agent hallucinogens?

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #278: July 26, 2023, 06:58:18 PM »
Lol, he's not signing the Albies deal

I'd be shocked if he signed Acuña's deal.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #279: July 26, 2023, 07:38:55 PM »
Unfortunately, we might have to make a realistic offer

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #280: July 26, 2023, 07:50:06 PM »
JRod deal?

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #281: July 26, 2023, 07:55:44 PM »
JRod deal?
is that better than J-Lo's deal?

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #282: July 26, 2023, 08:12:59 PM »
is that better than J-Lo's deal?
Probably not.

Honestly, at this point, any extension should be less than what Carroll got. I know everyone's excited, but this less than a month's worth of production.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #283: July 27, 2023, 02:46:44 AM »
He’s a future superstar.   Do something right and extend him.  He’s ten times the player Ruiz is

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #284: July 27, 2023, 08:29:04 AM »
Probably not.

Honestly, at this point, any extension should be less than what Carroll got. I know everyone's excited, but this less than a month's worth of production.

And there's the crux of the issue. Would Abrams sign such a deal? He's not worth a Carroll extension yet but he might not want to sign a deal smaller than that like Ruiz did.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #285: July 27, 2023, 08:36:03 AM »
eh, explore it at the end of the season. Get more of a look at his performance.  They aren't negotiating mid-season. There's such a range of ways to do these deals. Assuming the bat is real, the position I think will take care of itself over the next 7 or so years, which I assume will be the length of the deal. buy out 5 years of team control and 2 of free agency.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #286: July 31, 2023, 02:14:54 PM »
https://twitter.com/stephen_newman1/status/1686059650314125341?s=20

Who knows what CJ's ultimate level ends up being (he's still not in his physical prime obviously;he will get stronger and impact the ball more over the next few seasons), this stretch of play is really encouraging, especially the strides he seems to be making defensively.


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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #287: July 31, 2023, 06:14:27 PM »
He’s a superstar in the making. Just going to enjoy watching him take off.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #288: August 07, 2023, 05:21:41 PM »
Grant Paulson notes CJ’s NL SS ranks. Extend the man:

AVG: 5th
OPS: 6th
HR: 6th
RBI: 5th
R: 3rd
H: 5th
SB: 1st
OBP: 6th
SLG: 4th

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #289: August 07, 2023, 05:37:51 PM »
That home run in the Cinci finale was majestic.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #290: August 07, 2023, 05:49:28 PM »
Grant Paulson notes CJ’s NL ranks. Extend the man:

AVG: 5th
OPS: 6th
HR: 6th
RBI: 5th
R: 3rd
H: 5th
SB: 1st
OBP: 6th
SLG: 4th
that's among shortstops, right?

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #291: August 07, 2023, 06:16:09 PM »
Be the Braves. Extend CJ and be happy he is not a Boras client. Don't wait and then offer a Trea T or Lindor contract.
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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #292: August 07, 2023, 07:53:22 PM »
that's among shortstops, right?

Yes, among SS

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #293: August 08, 2023, 11:07:46 AM »
Abrams has moved into positive territory with a 1.1 UZR/150 according to Fangraphs. Among NL SS with at least 500 innings this year, he's 8th out of 14 (and only 0.2 behind Tovar). Orlando Arcia is far and away the worst defensive SS in the NL with a UZR/150 of -16.5. Lindor ranks #1 at 9.0

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #294: August 08, 2023, 11:20:53 AM »
I am not greedy. If he's a league average SS with a plus bat, then that is fine and he can stick at SS for a while.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #295: August 08, 2023, 06:18:54 PM »
Thought his ceiling was non-peak Dee Gordon

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #296: August 08, 2023, 06:22:00 PM »
Thought his ceiling was non-peak Dee Gordon
85-95 wRC+, stolen bases, poor defense at shortstop.

Seems like CJ.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #298: August 08, 2023, 07:03:57 PM »
Yep. Nice month. Long way to go.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #299: August 08, 2023, 07:53:47 PM »
Yep. Nice month. Long way to go.

Agreed. Positive trend lines for sure though.