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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2010)
« Reply #1900 on: September 17, 2010, 11:54:51 pm »
7 innings, still no hits.

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« Reply #1901 on: September 18, 2010, 12:05:46 am »
Nelson Cruz breaks up the no-no, emphatically, with a solo homer in the 8th.

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« Reply #1902 on: September 18, 2010, 01:37:43 am »
Damn. Damn. Damn. One thing I've been obsessed with for years is the unattainable home run cycle. Never been done in major league ball. baseball. Just once in the minors, 1998 in AA ball. How many hundreds of thousands of games is that over 120+ years?

Well, damn. Shin-Soo Choo. Grand slam. Two run home run. Solo home run. Damn. Just one home run shy of doing the impossible. How rare is it for a player to get three home runs in a night? Ridiculously rare. Then to get three home runs each time with a different number of men on base? Unfathomably rare. He was just one home run with two guys on from being the first baseball player to hit a home run cycle. I'm convinced that's a feat, at least at the major league level, and almost certainly at any level, that no one here will ever be alive to hear about happening again. And when it happened in the minors, well, what year did I say it happened? 1998? Gee, nothing weird about home runs occurred in that decade, did it? I'm not saying whoever did it was juicing, but some guy who hits four home runs in a game in AA, desperate to make it, in 1998? Yeah. Asterisk time!

It's easily the most impossible "significant" record to have yet to be achieved in the majors. And Shin-Soo Choo came as close, just one home run with two men on base, as any human being, out of who knows how many tens of thousands in well over a century, in hundreds of thousands if not more games, has ever come to doing. Damn.

Oh, by the by. The first inning? Choo batting third in the lineup. The leadoff batter is at the plate. Single. The next batter comes up? Single. Two men on, no outs, top of the first. Next batter? Choo. Damn.

He grounded into a double play. That's how close he came to making an astounding, unattainable record that many have dreamed of and none have touched.

Oh, by the by. Top of the ninth inning. Two outs, two men on. Brantley strikes out swinging. Except it was a wild pitch. Man scores, two men on. Cabrera walks up to the plate with two men on. Who is on deck? Shin-Soo Choo. Two men on, two outs. Man on first, man on second. The top of the ninth should be over with a swinging strikeout, yet Brantley gets on base to put Choo on-deck. What are the odds? One single by Cabrera and Choo got his second shot at a three run homer. A second chance at a three run home run after hitting three home runs and a single. Cabrera grounds out to end the top of the ninth, with Choo walking back in the dugout likely oblivious to just what level of rarity he missed out on getting a second chance at. Damn.

If these last few paragraphs don't convince you there is some higher power that doesn't want to ever see a home run cycle in a major league game lest the universe unravel, well... Hitting four home runs in a game is rare. Hitting four home runs with a different number of men on base each time is ridiculous, but odds are it should have happened once. Then to have something like the description above? It's not the first time. Out of the handful of one HR away from the cycle, a lot have had the carrot beat over their head like Choo did tonight. What are the odds? Damn.

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« Reply #1903 on: September 18, 2010, 02:12:17 am »
On another rarity note... Edwin Jackson took a no-hitter into the sixth. Wandy Rodriguez took a no-hitter into the sixth. And the aforementioned no-hitter into the eighth inning. Three reasonably close no-hitters, all not to be. On the same night. On the same night as the guy who hit three home runs, three times with different numbers of men on base. Who was a three run homer away from the first home run cycle. What are the odds? Oh, and the only runs scored off of Rodriguez, and the entire game for the Reds? A three run home run by Jonny Gomes.  

Seriously, what a weird night of rarities for baseball. Who's ever heard of three no-hitters into the sixth inning, one into the eighth, on the same night? On the same night as Choo's almost but never was? Man, if you can't love a game that has things like this, things so insanely rare, occuring on the same night, each hundreds of miles apart, there's no hope for you.

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« Reply #1904 on: September 18, 2010, 08:39:55 pm »
anyone paying attention to what Tulo is doing in Colorado?  14 HRs in his last 15 games, batting around .400 this month, his slugging percentage is now up to nearly .600.

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« Reply #1905 on: September 18, 2010, 10:37:38 pm »
anyone paying attention to what Tulo is doing in Colorado?  14 HRs in his last 15 games, batting around .400 this month, his slugging percentage is now up to nearly .600.

Get back to me when he hits 10 HR in 20 AB's.  Now THAT would be a feat.

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« Reply #1906 on: September 19, 2010, 03:30:01 am »
Err, wow, Jason LaRue is retiring. Why? Apparently solely because of the fact he was kicked in the head by Cueto in the Reds and Cards brawl and doesn't want to risk any further injuries. It's horrible for a player to end their career in such a fashion, and speaks volumes about just what a jackass Cueto was in that brawl. He got off easily, and should be... Well, I won't add needless hyperbole. But what a jackass Cueto is, and a sad end to a career because some idiot decided to start kicking people on the ground in a brawl. I know I'll be booing him loudly if he plays at Nats Park.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2010)
« Reply #1907 on: September 19, 2010, 11:38:19 am »
Does anyone have a video of this Reds/Cards brawl?  I keep hearing about it but I haven't actually seen footage anywhere.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2010)
« Reply #1908 on: September 19, 2010, 01:44:22 pm »
No more teams, no more wild cards!  Season is too long anyway. 

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« Reply #1909 on: September 19, 2010, 02:28:03 pm »
No more teams, no more wild cards!  Season is too long anyway. 

Too long for fans of terrible teams like ours, at least.

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« Reply #1910 on: September 19, 2010, 06:51:53 pm »
Tyler Colvin of the Cubs was struck by the jagged barrel end of a broken bat between third and home.  He's out for the remainder of the year, currently in stable condition in the hospital with a wound in the upper left chest, which also caused a collapsed lung, and is expected to be released tomorrow.  I'm glad that Colvin was fortunate enough not to have been more seriously injured.

The headlines are calling it an impalement.  The bat struck him, creating a gash that needed to be sutured, and then fell to the ground.  He even ended up scoring after being struck.  I was watching, and never saw any obvious signs of the wound.  Apparently it was worse than it looked, but not as bad as many would expect when called an "impalement."

Nonetheless, in my opinion, it was an unnecessary injury - MLB should have already banned the maple bats. 

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« Reply #1911 on: September 19, 2010, 08:12:21 pm »
Yeah I mentioned the obvious headline-grabbing use of the word "impalement" in the game thread.  Still a serious incident and a serious matter though.

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« Reply #1912 on: September 19, 2010, 09:00:52 pm »
The video didn't look serious but a punctured lung sucks, I've been there before. Some of the worse pain I've had was therapy after I broke 8 ribs and punctured my lung. I used to be a bit of an Evil Knievel when I was younger. :lol:

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2010)
« Reply #1913 on: September 19, 2010, 09:47:41 pm »
Yeah I mentioned the obvious headline-grabbing use of the word "impalement" in the game thread.  Still a serious incident and a serious matter though.

MSNBC's Olbermann gets the win for hype, with the bat "lodged in his chest."

When it happened, I thought he was only bruised, I never thought for an instant it would require hospitalization.  The latest reports down here are that he will be hospitalized for "a few days."  The Cubs trainer is reported to have said it was indeed a "deep" wound.  Apparently, as soon as he got to the dugout, everyone realized it was more serious than originally thought.   I'm not clear on whether a chest tube was inserted by an EMT at the stadium, or later at the hospital.

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« Reply #1914 on: September 19, 2010, 09:59:14 pm »
It was less dramatic than I had imagined it.

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« Reply #1915 on: September 19, 2010, 11:41:43 pm »
Err, wow, Jason LaRue is retiring. Why? Apparently solely because of the fact he was kicked in the head by Cueto in the Reds and Cards brawl and doesn't want to risk any further injuries. It's horrible for a player to end their career in such a fashion, and speaks volumes about just what a jackass Cueto was in that brawl. He got off easily, and should be... Well, I won't add needless hyperbole. But what a jackass Cueto is, and a sad end to a career because some idiot decided to start kicking people on the ground in a brawl. I know I'll be booing him loudly if he plays at Nats Park.

he did say he suffered something like 20 concussions from HS football, yet another reason why I have told my kids they aren't playing football.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2010)
« Reply #1916 on: September 19, 2010, 11:43:06 pm »
Nonetheless, in my opinion, it was an unnecessary injury - MLB should have already banned the maple bats. 

forgive my ignorance, but given that maple bats split all the time, why haven't they been banned?  It's sad that it will take a serious injury like this perhaps to force the league to take some action.  I guess the good thing is that it wasn't a fan.

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« Reply #1917 on: September 19, 2010, 11:58:39 pm »
he did say he suffered something like 20 concussions from HS football, yet another reason why I have told my kids they aren't playing football.

He's probably had untold concussions from foul balls hitting him square on the mask.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2010)
« Reply #1918 on: September 20, 2010, 01:48:52 am »
From the Washington Post:

Cubs' Colvin struck by shattered bat, hospitalized with punctured chest

The Associated Press
Sunday, September 19, 2010; 6:03 PM



MIAMI -- Cubs rookie Tyler Colvin was hospitalized Sunday after his chest was punctured by part of a shattered bat.

Colvin was standing on third base in the second inning of Chicago's 13-3 victory at Florida when he was struck by a sliver of Welington Castillo's maple bat. Castillo doubled on the play and Colvin scored, but was replaced in the field in the bottom half.

"I feel really bad about it," Castillo said. "It wasn't on purpose, but he's my teammate. I hope he's getting better."

A Cubs spokesman said Colvin was in stable condition at Jackson Memorial Hospital and is expected to remain there for the next few days for observation.

Colvin was watching Castillo's liner into the left-field corner and looked surprised when he was hit by the bat.

"These bats, I'm amazed it doesn't happen more," Cubs manager Mike Quade said. "We have seen guys get hit with pieces, but to actually get stabbed with one, I just don't ever remember (seeing it)."

A Cubs trainer said Colvin was hit in his upper right chest, allowing air into his chest well and potentially into his lungs. He had very little external bleeding.

Colvin was being treated with a chest tube to prevent a collapsed lung.

The right fielder is expected to miss the rest of the season. He hit .254 with 20 homers and 56 RBIs in his first year in the majors.


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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2010)
« Reply #1919 on: September 20, 2010, 11:43:05 am »
anyone paying attention to what Tulo is doing in Colorado?  14 HRs in his last 15 games, batting around .400 this month, his slugging percentage is now up to nearly .600.
Best september I ever remember was this guy.  His line was .417 / .504 / .760, with 9 HRs and 26 RBI. sOPS+ of 294.  And a pennant.

Tulo is .351 / .407 / 1.000, with 14 HRs, 34 RBI and 2 weeks to go.  sOPS+ 280.  Less consistently great through the year, but better power in his peak month and similar complete domination relative to his league.  Amazing.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2010)
« Reply #1920 on: September 21, 2010, 11:19:07 pm »
Capps just closed out the Indians to clinch the AL Central.

Edit, not quite.  The White Sox still have to lose, and they currently trail.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2010)
« Reply #1921 on: September 22, 2010, 11:24:28 am »
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Postseason Success Won't Affect Rays' 2011 Payroll
By Luke Adams [September 21, 2010 at 6:51pm CST]
Stuart Sternberg, the Rays' principal owner, announced before the season began that the team's payroll may end up below $60MM in 2011. Seven months later, nothing has changed. Sternberg tells Marc Topkin of the St. Petersburg Times that even if the Rays make a deep run in the postseason, the club's payroll will be significantly reduced next season.

"No question. Nothing can change that,'' Sternberg said. "Unfortunately there's nothing that can happen between now and April that can change that unless Joe Maddon hits the lottery and wants to donate it, or I hit the lottery."

If the Rays were to play in two or three playoff series, the handful of extra home games would earn the team some additional revenue. According to Sternberg though, the Rays still "can't come close" to turning a profit for 2010. With key contributors like Carl Crawford, Rafael Soriano, and Carlos Pena facing free agency, Tampa Bay's roster will likely look very different by Opening Day 2011.


http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/09/postseason-success-wont-affect-rays-2011-payroll.html

baseball economics seem to be broken - loose on the cheap and profit, win with a midrange payroll and loose money

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« Reply #1922 on: September 22, 2010, 11:29:32 am »
Their attendance this season is barely above ours.

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« Reply #1923 on: September 22, 2010, 11:43:18 am »
Their attendance this season is barely above ours.

Terrible stadium in a terrible location. Ask Spinman how many times he goes to the Trop.

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« Reply #1924 on: September 22, 2010, 11:51:43 am »
It's a dump no doubt... having said that... even with a new stadium, I don't see the fans coming out to the games in St. Pete.

They need to move the team to Tampa, or, move it out of the state.