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Offline varoadking

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1200 on: July 08, 2018, 07:28:53 pm »
Quote from: Greg_SRT on July 08, 2018, 07:27:55 pm
To win a popular contest?

For having betrayed that popularity...
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Offline Greg_SRT

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1201 on: July 08, 2018, 07:35:13 pm »
Quote from: varoadking on July 08, 2018, 07:28:53 pm
For having betrayed that popularity...

I don’t understand what you mean
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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1202 on: July 08, 2018, 07:40:18 pm »
Quote from: Greg_SRT on July 08, 2018, 07:35:13 pm
I don’t understand what you mean

Royce became popular by giving it his all.  I'm glad he's no longer running into walls; and I can deal with a slump; I can deal with the fact he can no longer throw like he once did, but the pouting and refusal to hustle is beyond the pale.

The Big Intern sat him for it once.  Since then he's gotten a pass...and it's bad optics...
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Offline Greg_SRT

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1203 on: July 08, 2018, 07:41:08 pm »
Quote from: varoadking on July 08, 2018, 07:40:18 pm
Royce became popular by giving it his all.  I'm glad he's no longer running into walls; and I can deal with a slump; I can deal with the fact he can no longer throw like he once did, but the pouting and refusal to hustle is beyond the pale.

The Big Intern sat him for it once.  Since then he's gotten a pass...and it's bad optics...

Ah ok I got ya.
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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1204 on: July 08, 2018, 08:14:52 pm »
Quote from: varoadking on July 08, 2018, 07:40:18 pm
Royce became popular by giving it his all.  I'm glad he's no longer running into walls; and I can deal with a slump; I can deal with the fact he can no longer throw like he once did, but the pouting and refusal to hustle is beyond the pale.

The Big Intern sat him for it once.  Since then he's gotten a pass...and it's bad optics...

:roll:

Leading the league in homers
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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1205 on: July 08, 2018, 08:15:49 pm »
Quote from: Slateman on July 08, 2018, 08:14:52 pm
:roll:

Leading the league in homers

Low bar there...
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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1206 on: July 08, 2018, 08:19:15 pm »
Quote from: varoadking on July 08, 2018, 07:26:40 pm
He should be embarrassed...


I agree.
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Offline Baseball is Life

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1207 on: July 08, 2018, 08:26:03 pm »
He should be embarased? Pouting and refusing to hustle? Sometimes you see what you want to see.

I get it that some fans hate today's big name superstars who make tons of money and who have a lot of flash to their game. But the personal attacks on Harper are getting downright weird. Weird as in obsessively weird.
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Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1208 on: July 08, 2018, 08:32:47 pm »
Quote from: Baseball is Life on July 08, 2018, 08:26:03 pm
I get it that some fans hate today's big name superstars who play like crap, but still get all the accolades

Fixed that for you
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Offline Smithian

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1209 on: July 08, 2018, 08:34:16 pm »
Quote from: Baseball is Life on July 08, 2018, 08:26:03 pm
He should be embarased? Pouting and refusing to hustle? Sometimes you see what you want to see.

I get it that some fans hate today's big name superstars who make tons of money and who have a lot of flash to their game. But the personal attacks on Harper are getting downright weird. Weird as in obsessively weird.
Agree. I don't question Harper wants to win, and even if you think he doesn't want to win then at least buy in he wants to produce and get paid.
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Offline varoadking

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1210 on: July 08, 2018, 08:41:40 pm »
Quote from: Smithian on July 08, 2018, 08:34:16 pm
Agree. I don't question Harper wants to win, and even if you think he doesn't want to win then at least buy in he wants to produce and get paid.

Is he playing like an All Star?
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Offline Smithian

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1211 on: July 08, 2018, 08:47:58 pm »
Quote from: varoadking on July 08, 2018, 08:41:40 pm
Is he playing like an All Star?
No, but he isn't that far away. He is making it largely on reputation but he is neither the first nor will he be the last.
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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1212 on: July 08, 2018, 08:48:40 pm »
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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1213 on: July 08, 2018, 08:51:07 pm »
Quote from: Slateman on July 08, 2018, 08:48:40 pm
Not really

He's playing at replacement player level...
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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1214 on: July 08, 2018, 08:52:27 pm »
Quote from: Smithian on July 08, 2018, 08:47:58 pm
No, but he isn't that far away. He is making it largely on reputation but he is neither the first nor will he be the last.

His numbers aren't his only shortcoming...
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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1215 on: July 08, 2018, 08:56:08 pm »
Quote from: varoadking on July 08, 2018, 08:51:07 pm
He's playing at replacement player level...

Replacement players dont hit 20+ homers
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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1216 on: July 08, 2018, 09:00:01 pm »
Quote from: varoadking on July 08, 2018, 08:51:07 pm
He's playing at replacement player level...
Has 1.5 WAR with horrendous defensive stats.
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Offline varoadking

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1217 on: July 08, 2018, 09:02:04 pm »
Quote from: Slateman on July 08, 2018, 08:56:08 pm
Replacement players dont hit 20+ homers

Tell that to the guys that measure WAR then...

My bad, I mis-read his numbers...he's at 1.5 WAR...

By contrast...Mike Trout is at 6.5...

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Offline Kevrock

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1218 on: July 08, 2018, 09:03:50 pm »
Has 1.5 WAR is enough to trash that post
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Offline varoadking

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1219 on: July 08, 2018, 09:05:08 pm »
Quote from: Smithian on July 08, 2018, 09:00:01 pm
Has 1.5 WAR with horrendous defensive stats.

You are correct...I saw a -1.4 WAR for defense and thought that netted out the offense...

So maybe a 2018 version of the 2010 Adam Dunn?

Playing like a $20MM player?
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Offline Kevrock

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1220 on: July 08, 2018, 09:05:53 pm »
I see I've missed a lot
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Offline Ray D

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1221 on: July 09, 2018, 11:53:49 am »
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The same people that said Bryce should have ran right there ....

Did FP actually graduate high school?

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I’m taking a long break from Twitter.
Good freaking riddance. jerk.
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Offline UMDNats

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1222 on: July 09, 2018, 11:55:22 am »
Quote from: varoadking on July 08, 2018, 07:40:18 pm
Royce became popular by giving it his all. 

This is...not true.
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Offline Ray D

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1223 on: July 09, 2018, 12:07:10 pm »
Quote from: UMDNats on July 09, 2018, 11:55:22 am
This is...not true.
Going all out on every play (before running into a few walls) did contribute  to his initial popularity. I remember his first at bat, a one-hopper back to the pitcher, he sprinted out of the box and almost beat the throw.  Shortly after, a similar comebacker, the pitcher, anticipating the same, rushed the throw and threw the ball into right field.  And then, how about when he stole home off of Hamels. Who else does that? 

But that was the old Harper.  Injuries have a way of slowing us all down.
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Offline UMDNats

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1224 on: July 09, 2018, 12:18:58 pm »
Yeah, I mean, he played all-out, and that added to his youthful exuberance, but he was popular at age 16 for being a baseball prodigy, not for playing hard. And he was popular in the minors for being a beast and being brash at times. Harper was one of the most popular baseball players in the country before he was ever running into walls.
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