Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond

[bluestreak]

When did fan voting begin. I know Jason Varitek made it one year batting .218, Luis Aparicio made it in 1971 at .206, Willie Mays in 1973 at .214 and there were a few others.

Fans voted from 1947 to 1957. Then had it stripped until 1970 (because the Reds stuffed the ballot box) and have been voting since then.

[bluestreak]

Jupiter's freaking Cock dude! give it a freaking rest already. And you have the nerve to talk about the old timers in that article who used the space to show off how much they know about old school baseball. You're just a stat geek version of the same. BA was the stat that was mentioned for Harper so that was we looked up.

What are you talking about? Halfsomke said Jeter sucked at the end. Vark said he didn’t. Jeter did suck if you look at any stat other than BA.  Vark cherry picked BA.  Totally separate from the convo about all stars below the Mendoza Line.

Come on dude, I’m not even using exotic stats. I’m using freaking OPS...
Whenever I hear “stat geek” is assume I’ve made a point that you can’t refute.   

[varoadking]

 

[mitlen]

Hold my beer.

[KnorrForYourMoney]

Jupiter's freaking Cock dude! give it a freaking rest already. And you have the nerve to talk about the old timers in that article who used the space to show off how much they know about old school baseball. You're just a stat geek version of the same. BA was the stat that was mentioned for Harper so that was we looked up.

So you used a crappy stat because you were talking about a crappy stat to begin with?  Not really a good reason.

[Slateman]

Big home run last night

[NatsAllThe Way]

I can't remember the last time he had a game altering hit (before last night).  Maybe in April?

[spidernat]

So you used a crappy stat because you were talking about a crappy stat to begin with?  Not really a good reason.

No that was brought up as a comparison to other All Stars, nothing more than that.

[aspenbubba]

No that was brought up as a comparison to other All Stars, nothing more than that.

Wait a minute, I thought the only crappy stat was pitchers W-L.

[nfotiu]

Wait a minute, I thought the only crappy stat was pitchers W-L.

What.... That's the only stat that matters!

[Baseball is Life]

Big home run last night

Dude is gonna end up with 40 bombs and 100 RBIs but somehow that won't be good enough if he doesn't hit at least .280.

[Ray D]

Dude is gonna end up with 40 bombs

Yeah if you project from the beginning of the season he's on pace for close to 40.  If you project based on June and July he won't get to 30.

[spidernat]

Dude is gonna end up with 40 bombs and 100 RBIs but somehow that won't be good enough if he doesn't hit at least .280.

In that case, Adam Dunn needed a better agent.

[Baseball is Life]

In that case, Adam Dunn needed a better agent.

Can’t remember what year Dunn won the MVP. Remember he will be judged on his whole career not just the last 2 months.

[spidernat]

The rest of his career will, in all likelihood, take place in another uniform so I don't give a freak about the rest of his career. I care about how the last two months have severely impacted this team's chances at the postseason. And make no mistake about it, he is the main reason this team is where they are right now.

[Baseball is Life]

The rest of his career will, in all likelihood, take place in another uniform so I don't give a freak about the rest of his career. I care about how the last two months have severely impacted this team's chances at the postseason. And make no mistake about it, he is the main reason this team is where they are right now.

For a minute there I thought you were talking about his agent and his ability to get paid for the rest of his career.

[Slateman]

Martinez didnt sound too happy with Harper's level if effort tonight.

[Air Desmond]

Watching Bryce play on a daily basis, it’s easy to see why Papelbon choked him. He’s a total diva. Right now, he’s a pouting diva. Everybody saw him quit running on that double play ball.

Davey says “we’ll talk about it tomorrow”

He’ll put his precious .210 hitter right back in the lineup. 

[Jeff in Gaithersburg]

Dude is gonna end up with 40 bombs and 100 RBIs but somehow that won't be good enough if he doesn't hit at least .280.

No one is asking him to hit .280, just don't be hitting .214 this deep into the season when games are becoming more important. Not to mention.......

- .171 in July
- .188 in June
- .228 with RISP
- .195 with no runners on base
- .124 with no runners on base when he doesn't homer
- Won't try to hit the ball the other way to beat the shift
- Horrible ABs all season which have cost the team runs and games
- By month his average has dropped 20 points, 33 points and then 17 points between April/May/June/July
- Makes a pointless wild brain fart throw from CF the other night in Pittsburgh which ended up costing them a run
- Gave up running on the DP ball tonight
 
Yes I'd expect more from the superstar on the team with his talent and ability. I'd expect more from Wilmer Difo if he was putting up those numbers (and other than RISP all of Wilmer's averages are better than Bryce's). I'd prefer the superstar on my team act like a leader instead of a pouting baby, so no, the great power numbers don't make everything okay. 

If something major is going on off the field or the knee hasn't fully healed for whatever reason, we don't know. But his play has been unacceptable. Do things to help your team win, not lose.

[rileyn]

Is hitting .107 in the 7th inning and beyond this year, which made his homer on Thursday so unusual (also had a man on base).  No wonder we have such a poor record in one run games, our star player hasn't done anything.

[Slateman]

If Rizzo truly wanted to rattle his team, he'd trade Harper to some team for a scrub.

[Baseball is Life]

If Rizzo truly wanted to rattle his team, he'd trade Harper to some team for a scrub.

[Baseball is Life]

No one is asking him to hit .280, just don't be hitting .214 this deep into the season when games are becoming more important. Not to mention.......

- .171 in July
- .188 in June
- .228 with RISP
- .195 with no runners on base
- .124 with no runners on base when he doesn't homer
- Won't try to hit the ball the other way to beat the shift
- Horrible ABs all season which have cost the team runs and games
- By month his average has dropped 20 points, 33 points and then 17 points between April/May/June/July
- Makes a pointless wild brain fart throw from CF the other night in Pittsburgh which ended up costing them a run
- Gave up running on the DP ball tonight
 
Yes I'd expect more from the superstar on the team with his talent and ability. I'd expect more from Wilmer Difo if he was putting up those numbers (and other than RISP all of Wilmer's averages are better than Bryce's). I'd prefer the superstar on my team act like a leader instead of a pouting baby, so no, the great power numbers don't make everything okay. 

If something major is going on off the field or the knee hasn't fully healed for whatever reason, we don't know. But his play has been unacceptable. Do things to help your team win, not lose.

I get the impression you're disappointed in Harper's level of play. Seriously, I just think he's not in sync at the plate. Look at his swing. He's constantly off balance. You can't consistently hit like that at the MLB level. And that might lead to other things like frustration, not running out that DP grounder, etc. I also think that anything he does is magnified.

[dcpatti]

I think Bryce needs to take a couple days off and go to like Kings Dominion and ride roller coasters or something, and not think about baseball at all. He’s got some major mental baggage dragging him down and the more he plays poorly, the more attention it gets, and the heavier the baggage gets.

[Baseball is Life]

I think Bryce needs to take a couple days off and go to like Kings Dominion and ride roller coasters or something, and not think about baseball at all. He’s got some major mental baggage dragging him down and the more he plays poorly, the more attention it gets, and the heavier the baggage gets.

I think the all-star break will do him good. I know it's still baseball but it's a break from the regular grind.