2025 Off-season - general thread

[imref]

At this point, let's just give Yepez a long tryout. Nothing to lose. Clearly, ownership has zero desire to field a competitive team. Payroll really can't get any lower, so hopefully they will sell to the highest bidder.

they added $20 million in payroll in the last week.

[zimm_da_kid]

they added $20 million in payroll in the last week.

That doesn’t offset the payroll off the books from Corbin and Finnegan

[HalfSmokes]

they added $20 million in payroll in the last week.

Spotrac is estimating an $80 million payroll of which $50 million is for guys no longer playing for us

[Natsinpwc]

Spotrac is estimating an $80 million payroll of which $50 million is for guys no longer playing for us

Strasburg and ??????

Deferred payments don’t count against the official payroll. So probably worse than that.

[Natsinpwc]

That doesn’t offset the payroll off the books from Corbin and Finnegan

Yea I mean a competitive team would be looking to ass like $50 million. They have the money.

[imref]

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/washington-nationals/payroll/_/year/2025

Shows $23.5M for Stras, $2.5M for Gallo, plus $15M deferred for Scherzer and $10M deferred for Corbin.

Soroka is the only guy on the roster who isn't arb or pre-arb.

If we're paying Gallo $2.5M maybe see if he'll take an assignment to AAA?

[Slateman]

they added $20 million in payroll in the last week.

No, they added 10. Soroka's 9 million is offset by cutting Rainey and Finnegan.

Strasburg and ??????

Deferred payments don’t count against the official payroll. So probably worse than that.

Scherzer and Corbin. Scherzer gets 15 million, Corbin gets 10.

We are a sub 50 million dollar payroll. That's less than the Athletics last year.

[IanRubbish]

We are a sub 50 million dollar payroll. That's less than the Athletics last year.

Let's all just take a breath and wait til they announce the summer concert series.     The real attendance question this year in terms of Lerner-funded payroll will be do they stretch and go for Green Day, Toto, and Shaboozey, or will they go cheap with Carly Rae Jepsen, Baba Booey sings the hits of the 90s, and the lead singer from Air Supply.

[Dave in Fairfax]

Let's all just take a breath and wait til they announce the summer concert series.     The real attendance question this year in terms of Lerner-funded payroll will be do they stretch and go for Green Day, Toto, and Shaboozey, or will they go cheap with Carly Rae Jepsen, Baba Booey sings the hits of the 90s, and the lead singer from Air Supply.

Air Supply has two lead singers. May be out of the Lerners' price range.

[imref]

Let's all just take a breath and wait til they announce the summer concert series.     The real attendance question this year in terms of Lerner-funded payroll will be do they stretch and go for Green Day, Toto, and Shaboozey, or will they go cheap with Carly Rae Jepsen, Baba Booey sings the hits of the 90s, and the lead singer from Air Supply.

i’d be up for Flo Rida again.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Let's all just take a breath and wait til they announce the summer concert series.     The real attendance question this year in terms of Lerner-funded payroll will be do they stretch and go for Green Day, Toto, and Shaboozey, or will they go cheap with Carly Rae Jepsen, Baba Booey sings the hits of the 90s, and the lead singer from Air Supply.

Shaboozey is local. Maybe James Wood has an in with him.

[imref]

Shaboozey is local. Maybe James Wood has an in with him.

Shaboozey could probably fill the stadium on his own.

Anyone know what happened to the guy who used to play the national anthem on a violin made out of a bat? I haven't seen him at the park in years.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

On the topic of the bullpen, how'd folks feel about Chris Martin? 39 next June, but coming off some nice years with Boston. Sub-3 FIPs, low 3s xERA, a 1.05 and a 3.45 ERA, absurdly good K/BBs (27.8 K% / 1.7 BB%) with a break mid year due to anxiety issues. that probably doesn't cut him out to be a closer, but he's pitched high leverage set up. He'll be vastly cheaper than guys he's likely to out-pitch in 2025. If the goal is to give Ferrer or someone else a chance to take over as closer, Martin would strengthen a "bullpen A" and probably could close a bit in the right situations.

[imref]

Heyman says Gleyber Torres turned down a Nats offer because we wanted him to play third.

[varoadking]

Heyman says Gleyber Torres turned down a Nats offer because we wanted him to play third.

FIFY

[Slateman]

On the topic of the bullpen, how'd folks feel about Chris Martin? 39 next June, but coming off some nice years with Boston. Sub-3 FIPs, low 3s xERA, a 1.05 and a 3.45 ERA, absurdly good K/BBs (27.8 K% / 1.7 BB%) with a break mid year due to anxiety issues. that probably doesn't cut him out to be a closer, but he's pitched high leverage set up. He'll be vastly cheaper than guys he's likely to out-pitch in 2025. If the goal is to give Ferrer or someone else a chance to take over as closer, Martin would strengthen a "bullpen A" and probably could close a bit in the right situations.

Sure. He'll be the right price.

[Natsinpwc]

FIFY

Well he wouldn’t play 3B for the Yankees so..

[Slateman]

Well he wouldn’t play 3B for the Yankees so..

Yep. Knows he is a defensive liability. He's 6'1" He should move to first

[HalfSmokes]

Heyman says Gleyber Torres turned down a Nats offer because we wanted him to play third.

Oh well, Rizzo gets a prize for trying. No reason for fans to be upset with yet another wasted season.

[Natsinpwc]

Oh well, Rizzo gets a prize for trying. No reason for fans to be upset with yet another wasted season.

Participation trophies! 

[varoadking]

Participation trophies!

Just participating would be a step forward...

[HalfSmokes]

Just participating would be a step forward...

When my daughter was 6, the kid who didn’t want to play, but almost played a couple of times got a trophy too

[Mattionals]

Meh, Torres would have stunk at 3B. It's either overpay for Bregman (not a fan), or go with Tena/Chappy at 3B and invest in a DH. Given what we've seen, probably easy to say we are not in on Alonso or Santander. It's not going to be the offseason to "go in". Might never see that again until ownership changes.

[Scrapple]

Oh well, Rizzo gets a prize for trying. No reason for fans to be upset with yet another wasted season.

Rocks and coal for Christmas again.  Happy Holidays!!! 🤥  💩 🎄 💩

[HalfSmokes]

Meh, Torres would have stunk at 3B. It's either overpay for Bregman (not a fan), or go with Tena/Chappy at 3B and invest in a DH. Given what we've seen, probably easy to say we are not in on Alonso or Santander. It's not going to be the offseason to "go in". Might never see that again until ownership changes.

We're the Pirates. Our big offseason acquisition screams 'flip for prospects at the deadline.' As long as we have prospects, ownership will say the time isn't right