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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #800 on: January 09, 2025, 05:42:16 pm »
$1.35M for Gray.

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #801 on: January 09, 2025, 06:58:30 pm »
Gore agrees to terms, no details yet. Law agrees to $2.75M.

Still to finalize: Lowe, Garcia Jr., Gray,.

I could see them dumping Gore's salary next year like they did Lane Thomas when he's a year and a half from free agency.  Lane's going to get $7.8 million this year and avoided arbitration with the Ind-, sorry Guardians, which Mini Me would never have paid.

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« Reply #802 on: January 10, 2025, 10:44:30 am »
I could see them dumping Gore's salary next year like they did Lane Thomas when he's a year and a half from free agency.  Lane's going to get $7.8 million this year and avoided arbitration with the Ind-, sorry Guardians, which Mini Me would never have paid.

Doubtful. I feel like you are in full "sky is falling" mode. They just ain't spending on FA, but I do think they are committed to at least fielding a mediocre team with the upside of "they are cheap if we intend to sell and they could be a contender".

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #803 on: January 10, 2025, 11:28:52 am »
if they trade Gore it will be because they think he's going to command Strasburg-like money.

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #804 on: January 10, 2025, 11:42:52 am »
What an electric offseason! Wouldn’t be surprised to see Rizzo sign Corbin back on a cheaper deal… :roll:

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #805 on: January 10, 2025, 11:56:51 am »
What an electric offseason! Wouldn’t be surprised to see Rizzo sign Corbin back on a cheaper deal… :roll:
If it's a minor league deal as a tryout for a reliever... I wouldn't mind. If they have to pay his deferred money for this year, might as well have him work for us

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #806 on: January 10, 2025, 12:14:05 pm »
If it's a minor league deal as a tryout for a reliever... I wouldn't mind. If they have to pay his deferred money for this year, might as well have him work for us
I'd rather we invite Gio on a minor league deal.

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« Reply #807 on: January 10, 2025, 01:51:27 pm »
Doubtful. I feel like you are in full "sky is falling" mode. They just ain't spending on FA, but I do think they are committed to at least fielding a mediocre team with the upside of "they are cheap if we intend to sell and they could be a contender".

The sky fell when they did the '21 salary dumps and helped get us 5 straight sub-.450 win pct seasons.  They've shown with Lane Thomas and Finnegan that they don't like paying $5M+ arbitration salaries unless they absolutely have to.  If they develop any sort of depth at middle infield wouldn't surprise me if they did same thing next year with Luis Garcia.

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #808 on: January 10, 2025, 01:53:55 pm »
if they trade Gore it will be because they think he's going to command Strasburg-like money.

He's Boras, so he's going to want an overpay, and they'll think why not just trade him if he's gone after '27, they don't want to pay him $6 or $7 million a year in the meantime, and they can get something for him with a year and a half left before free agency.

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« Reply #809 on: January 10, 2025, 04:30:49 pm »
He's Boras, so he's going to want an overpay, and they'll think why not just trade him if he's gone after '27, they don't want to pay him $6 or $7 million a year in the meantime, and they can get something for him with a year and a half left before free agency.
If that's the plan then they need to draft a college arm this year that will be ready by 2027

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #810 on: January 10, 2025, 05:33:31 pm »
If that's the plan then they need to draft a college arm this year that will be ready by 2027

By 2027, barring injuries, Clemmey, Lara, Sykora and Susana will be here. Jackson Kent may also turn out to be a serviceable starter (drafted in the 4th round of out Illinois last year). Maybe Cavalli turns into something too?

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #811 on: January 10, 2025, 06:17:37 pm »
By 2027, barring injuries, Clemmey, Lara, Sykora and Susana will be here. Jackson Kent may also turn out to be a serviceable starter (drafted in the 4th round of out Illinois last year). Maybe Cavalli turns into something too?
There’s still hope for Cavalli.  For the others maybe one or two make it if we’re lucky. I think the Nats organization should get some credit for having Irvin and Parker kind of come out of nowhere to be serviceable starting arms. And Herz from a trade. The pitching is in much better shape than a couple years ago even with the injuries to Gray and Cavalli.

Slow steady progress.

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #812 on: January 10, 2025, 06:32:40 pm »
I want Gore here by the time they reach the finish line just as vindication for the Soto trade. In fact, I want all five of them here if/when it happens.

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #813 on: January 11, 2025, 02:35:09 pm »
28th now in Active Payroll, 25th in Total Payroll which includes Strasburg.

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #814 on: January 11, 2025, 02:50:32 pm »
28th now in Active Payroll, 25th in Total Payroll which includes Strasburg.


lol, unbelievable.

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #815 on: January 11, 2025, 03:31:01 pm »
If that's the plan then they need to draft a college arm this year that will be ready by 2027



If that’s the plan, the need to maximize the amount of time they keep Boras clients in the minors regardless of readiness

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #816 on: January 11, 2025, 04:06:20 pm »
If that's the plan then they need to draft a college arm this year that will be ready by 2027

I don't think that's how GMs draft. First off, there is no way to predict an arm that will be MLB ready two years after the draft. Particularly with the state of arm injuries the way they are.

Second, there isn't a consensus pitcher that you take over Holliday or LaViolette.

Third, you always take the best player (as you scout them) that's available.

Finally, by 2027, Rizzo will be gone.

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #818 on: January 11, 2025, 04:16:39 pm »
Rizzo's staff clearly hard at work looking for offseason acquistions.


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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #820 on: January 11, 2025, 04:53:16 pm »

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #821 on: January 11, 2025, 05:09:03 pm »
Rizzo's staff clearly hard at work looking for offseason acquistions.



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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #822 on: January 11, 2025, 05:49:56 pm »
28th now in Active Payroll, 25th in Total Payroll which includes Strasburg.

Truly pathetic.

I don't hate the moves Rizzo has made so far this offseason, but this is not a serious team.

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #823 on: January 11, 2025, 05:59:47 pm »
Nats sign Jorge Lopez, reliever, 1 year, $3 million.

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/nationals-jorge-lopez-headed-to-washington/


closing experience with the Os primarily. Has been more effective since his move to the bullpen after failing in 2021. depth, maybe a set up guy, but could close or be in a committee with Ferrer and Law.

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #824 on: January 11, 2025, 06:34:40 pm »
So that leaves four spots open for the bullpen still. Law, Ferrer, Lopez, and Reifert are probably the only locks right now.