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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #625 on: December 18, 2024, 12:04:28 am »
Patrick Corbin is out there too. :couch:

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #626 on: December 18, 2024, 07:14:27 am »
Patrick Corbin is out there too. :couch:
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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #627 on: December 18, 2024, 10:16:38 am »
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Whether we want him to or not. 

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« Reply #628 on: December 18, 2024, 10:23:48 am »
we're never going to sign anyone of value are we? (trying a little reverse-jinx here)

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« Reply #629 on: December 18, 2024, 12:16:18 pm »
Via Andrew Golden: The Nationals have signed OF Carlos De La Cruz to a minor league deal. 25 year old who got to AAA last year and struggled (Phillies organization).

https://www.milb.com/player/carlos-de-la-cruz-678926

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #630 on: December 18, 2024, 12:40:24 pm »
He can be a stand in for the James Wood Story movie.

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #631 on: December 18, 2024, 12:50:12 pm »
We should’ve seen the writing on the wall when we drafted a reliever 10th overall when there was no cap to what could be spent in the draft.

Funny enough, he was better than the 6 players drafted right after him

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #632 on: December 18, 2024, 01:52:35 pm »
we're never going to sign anyone of value are we? (trying a little reverse-jinx here)
Via Andrew Golden: The Nationals have signed OF Carlos De La Cruz to a minor league deal. 25 year old who got to AAA last year and struggled (Phillies organization).

https://www.milb.com/player/carlos-de-la-cruz-678926
you almost answered your question with your next post.

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #633 on: December 18, 2024, 02:28:26 pm »
you almost answered your question with your next post.

I don't think De La Cruz is someone of value. :). Elly maybe....

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #634 on: December 18, 2024, 04:00:20 pm »
I don't think De La Cruz is someone of value. :). Elly maybe....
He’s very tall. So there is that.

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #635 on: December 18, 2024, 04:20:10 pm »
He’s very tall. So there is that.
The Nats will have a fantastic front court for intramural basketball next year.

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #636 on: December 18, 2024, 08:51:37 pm »
To inspire Rizzo to make a move:


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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #637 on: December 18, 2024, 11:13:51 pm »
MLBnerds says the Nats are interested in Reds reliever Alexis Díaz. Could be a potential closer.

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #638 on: December 19, 2024, 06:37:58 am »
Says it all that while other teams' fans are contemplating signings, we're already contemplating 'how many losses?...'

2025 is shaping up to be another long season... ;)

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #639 on: December 19, 2024, 08:14:45 am »
Only about 1/3 of the best FAs have been signed so far, so we aren't completely unique. My dream 3 of Walker, Joc, and Yates are all still out there.

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #640 on: December 19, 2024, 09:55:23 am »
I'm not quite ready to start a rotation thread, but Nusbaum's article a couple of days ago gives an excellent survey of the market for free agent starters that remain and the status of internal rotation locks and candidates.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/12/17/nationals-starting-pitching/

Market for FA pitchers has been more expensive than thought at the start of the year and, while a number of pitchers have been signed, there remains several mid-rotation guys who arguably would slot in near the top of the Nats rotation while we anticipate, wait for, and give chances to internal options.

The 4 internal returners combine for only $5.4 million this year and had a 4.19 ERA in 2024.

Nusbaum notes:
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Of the 29 free agent starters projected (via FanGraphs) to be worth at least one Win Above Replacement next season, 17 remain available.
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Based on the market thus far, a variety of starter archetypes who could command low-to-mid-market money include injury-plagued upside bets (Spencer Turnbull, Mike Clevinger), aging journeymen who each have thrown twice as many innings as Washington’s quartet has combined (Lance Lynn, Kyle Gibson and Charlie Morton) and a handful of onetime all-stars looking to recapture that magic (Michael Lorenzen, Martín Pérez).

He then discusses Trevor Williams, who at least has expressed an interest in coming back. Pretty uncertain market, and not clear what performance you are buying. If it is last year's and a bigger quantity, he's very good, but how likely does the market feel that that is his level.

Cavalli, in Nusbaum's words, is a "quandary." He says Cavalli is no longer in rehab mode and will compete for a slot in the rotation in the spring, but his lack of innings in 2024 puts limits on him. Given past practice, he says (and I agree) that, if healthy, he's likely going to be doing short starts in the minors before a call up as they try to push him longer into the season, rather than burn through his innings by mid-August.

He then mentions Lord as the closest to the majors. Stuart, Rutledge, and Lara are potential spot starters and rotation fillers for injuries on the 40 man, with the trio of Susana, Sykora, and Clemmey "multiple promotions" away from the majors.

Throughout, Rizzo has been giving ambiguous signals, saying at some points the old more talented pitching is a good thing and a vet is a possibility but also praising the internal depth. As for budget, he says a middle of the order bat is a priority, but also that the Lerners "have always given us the resources to be competitive." What BS.


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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #641 on: December 19, 2024, 10:23:41 am »
The Nats might, at least, have signed the 35-year old pitcher from Japan, Tomoyuki Sugano, that Baltimore just signed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/12/16/orioles-sign-japanese-pitcher-sugano/


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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #642 on: December 19, 2024, 11:07:09 am »
Williams on a one-year deal might not be the worst option.

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #643 on: December 19, 2024, 02:36:50 pm »
I'd bet that the starting rotation this year ends up earning less combined than Patrick Corbin's 2025 deferral payment.

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #644 on: December 19, 2024, 02:46:43 pm »
I think that Ruiz will end up having the largest multi year contract of anyone on the roster

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #645 on: December 19, 2024, 03:02:09 pm »
Sign Scherzer. Trade gore and Abrams

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #646 on: December 20, 2024, 12:15:12 pm »
Sign Scherzer. Trade gore and Abrams

JFC please don't ever become the GM

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #647 on: December 20, 2024, 12:38:21 pm »
 Looks like Christian Walker is headed to Houston.

38 year old Carlos Santana is going to be the 1B on Opening Day  :hang: :hang: :hang:

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #648 on: December 20, 2024, 01:03:04 pm »
Looks like Christian Walker is headed to Houston.

38 year old Carlos Santana is going to be the 1B on Opening Day  :hang: :hang: :hang:
Gallo is still available :couch:

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Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Reply #649 on: December 20, 2024, 01:09:25 pm »
Walker's deal is for 3 years and north of $50M per Passan. Seems like an overpay for a guy who will be 34 at the start of next season, but who isn't an overpay at this point (and is the term "overpay" no longer applicable?)