Let's Geaux: Dylan Crews

[aspenbubba]

Zucks article today really breaks it down to how bad it is for Crews. My only question is how did he get this far without being able to hit breaking balls. You can't say that they only throw fastballs in college and in the minors. With all due respect to those who advocated his rapid promotions  in the minors and to the show, you were premature.

And if he doesn't improve next year this will be another of Rizzo's failures.

[Slateman]

Zucks article today really breaks it down to how bad it is for Crews. My only question is how did he get this far without being able to hit breaking balls. You can't say that they only throw fastballs in college and in the minors. With all due respect to those who advocated his rapid promotions  in the minors and to the show, you were premature.

And if he doesn't improve next year this will be another of Rizzo's failures.

The only place you can reliably find breaking stuff is in the majors. It exists in Double A, but pitchers are still trying to figure out how to control it. Any pitcher who has good breaking stuff and control wont be in the minors long, simply because teams dont want to waste bullets.

This is the only place he was going to reliably and consistently see good breaking stuff.  He is exactly where he needs to be.

[imref]

The only place you can reliably find breaking stuff is in the majors. It exists in Double A, but pitchers are still trying to figure out how to control it. Any pitcher who has good breaking stuff and control wont be in the minors long, simply because teams dont want to waste bullets.

This is the only place he was going to reliably and consistently see good breaking stuff.  He is exactly where he needs to be.

[Smithian]

Zucks article today really breaks it down to how bad it is for Crews. My only question is how did he get this far without being able to hit breaking balls. You can't say that they only throw fastballs in college and in the minors. With all due respect to those who advocated his rapid promotions  in the minors and to the show, you were premature.

And if he doesn't improve next year this will be another of Rizzo's failures.

The pitchers at Florida and Ole Miss don't have the pitch quality and variety that pitchers have in the majors.

I'm going to give Dylan Crews more than a couple months before I say Rizzo messed up.

[imref]

The pitchers at Florida and Ole Miss don't have the pitch quality and variety that pitchers have in the majors.

I'm going to give Dylan Crews more than a couple months before I say Rizzo messed up.

Exactly. Langford has struggled. Holliday has struggled. Not everyone is Bryce Harper.  Barry Bonds hit .223 in his first year FWIW.

[aspenbubba]

The pitchers at Florida and Ole Miss don't have the pitch quality and variety that pitchers have in the majors.

I'm going to give Dylan Crews more than a couple months before I say Rizzo messed up.

I also said the minors and that Slate stated only in AA do they throw breaking balls with regularity. How does anyone explain Skenes success in college and now in MLB..

Also stated next year (2025) for declaring Crews a drafting mistake.

[imref]

Skenes is a generational talent.

[aspenbubba]

Skenes is a generational talent.

I don't recall that description of him until he was brought up. He was virtually a consensus #1 in the draft I could be wrong.

[Kevrock]

He has been called a generational talent since before the draft.

[Smithian]

Skenes is a generational talent.

Too bad the Nats didn't have top pick. I didn't shed a tear for the team at #2 in 2009 and 2010, so I can't be too irritated we missed out on this now lottery pick. It is what it is.

[Slateman]

I also said the minors and that Slate stated only in AA do they throw breaking balls with regularity. How does anyone explain Skenes success in college and now in MLB..

Also stated next year (2025) for declaring Crews a drafting mistake.

Skenes is special. Most college pitchers dont have 100 mph fastball, 60+ grade breaking ball, and MLB quality control.

But he proves my point. They arent wasting innings in the minors. They put him at the major league level as soon as his service time wasnt a concern. Same thing with Rhett Lowder. Spent the bulk of his time in Double a, made one start at Tripple, and they bumped him up to the Majors.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

finished with 119 ABs and fewer than 45 days on the roster so he retains rookie eligibility in 2025.

[zimm_da_kid]

This year will definitely prepare him for next.  If he can just have a 110 ops+ year one we’ll be looking good

[JCA-CrystalCity]

This year will definitely prepare him for next.  If he can just have a 110 ops+ year one we’ll be looking good

call me a koolaid drinker, but I expect a much better BABIP than .253. His xStats were already about there.

[IanRubbish]

I wouldn't be surprised if he has a lot of ups and downs next year, but finishes with a mid-7s OPS like Langford.  He's still 22, plenty of time to break in more and grow.  While I don't think he has Wood's ceiling or patience, I'd bet on him being well above average in his mid-20s.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

I wouldn't be surprised if he has a lot of ups and downs next year, but finishes with a mid-7s OPS like Langford.  He's still 22, plenty of time to break in more and grow.  While I don't think he has Wood's ceiling or patience, I'd bet on him being well above average in his mid-20s.

if you tack on his OBP-AVG from this year (.070= .288-.218) to  his xBA (.256)  and his xSLG (.424), he was .750 on a statcast-based OPS. That's even with his breaking ball problems. He could do much better than a .750 OPS next year.

[Senatorswin]

It had to be an exhausting year physically but maybe more mentally for Crews in 2024. LSU starts playing real games in mid February so they start practice probably at the beginning January. Then playing to some time in June with a lot of attention on him, the draft then minor leagues. Getting to the majors in August to the end of the year.

[varoadking]

It had to be an exhausting year physically but maybe more mentally for Crews in 2024. LSU starts playing real games in mid February so they start practice probably at the beginning January. Then playing to some time in June with a lot of attention on him, the draft then minor leagues. Getting to the majors in August to the end of the year.

Ya lost me here...Crews was a 2023 draft pick...

[Senatorswin]

Ya lost me here...Crews was a 2023 draft pick...

Brain was temporarily AWOL.

[SkinsNatFan21RIP]

Too bad the Nats didn't have top pick. I didn't shed a tear for the team at #2 in 2009 and 2010, so I can't be too irritated we missed out on this now lottery pick. It is what it is.

The difference is we earned those picks. The Pirates were given that pick even though they were one of the main reasons we now have a lottery. And then we got whored again because we wouldn't pick in the top 10. Its beyond stupid.

[Slateman]

The difference is we earned those picks. The Pirates were given that pick even though they were one of the main reasons we now have a lottery. And then we got whored again because we wouldn't pick in the top 10. Its beyond stupid.

Exactly. MLB specifically implemented that rule to prevent tanking and then proceeded to hand the number 1 pick to one of the biggest tanking franchises in the last 20 years

[zimm_da_kid]

Exactly. MLB specifically implemented that rule to prevent tanking and then proceeded to hand the number 1 pick to one of the biggest tanking franchises in the last 20 years

at least the white sox can't pick higher than 10th this year.  pretty funny.

Top guys in the draft this year seem to be holliday and laviolette.  would love either.  also love billy carlson and seth hernandez if we;re in that 4-6 range

[Senatorswin]

at least the white sox can't pick higher than 10th this year.  pretty funny.

That's beyond stupid. MLB needs to change that.

[madj55]

That's beyond stupid. MLB needs to change that.

It’s what Jerry Reinsdorf deserves to be honest.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

That's beyond stupid. MLB needs to change that.

the idea that ending up near the bottom of the draft will ever be a one-off is not realistic. It's not tanking if you end up with a top 5 pick 2 years in a row. The penalty for revenue sharing payers should not kick in for a couple of years. If they want to toss a break to revenue sharing receivers, then something like 3 years max makes sense.