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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #225 on: October 01, 2024, 04:20:55 pm »
Quote from: varoadking on October 01, 2024, 03:53:35 pm
Doing so would only enrich MLB now that he is gone...doesn't do Pete any good.  Better they have to explain how they banned him for gambling while gambling now finances the sport...
Perhaps Draft Kings could take bets on whether or not the commissioner would remove him from the list?
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #226 on: October 01, 2024, 04:46:58 pm »
Quote from: varoadking on October 01, 2024, 03:53:35 pm
Doing so would only enrich MLB now that he is gone...doesn't do Pete any good.  Better they have to explain how they banned him for gambling while gambling now finances the sport...

I don't see why they have to explain it. Regardless of where things stand now, betting on baseball was always the one inescapable mortal sin in that sport. Every player, manager, and team employee knew it and it was made obvious to them many times over. While I happen to think the steroid users had far more of a negative impact from a competitive and performance standpoint, that doesn't change that Rose was just a dumbass in thinking he wouldn't get caught.
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #227 on: October 01, 2024, 05:09:30 pm »
He took a gamble, and lost... ;)
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #228 on: October 01, 2024, 06:21:40 pm »
It's not just betting on baseball, it was betting on his team (or not betting some games). That's different from fan betting because he had the opportunity to impact the outcome of the games he was betting on
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #229 on: October 01, 2024, 09:28:34 pm »
Quote from: imref on October 01, 2024, 04:20:55 pm
Perhaps Draft Kings could take bets on whether or not the commissioner would remove him from the list?

Bet on it...
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #230 on: October 01, 2024, 09:30:34 pm »
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 01, 2024, 04:46:58 pm
I don't see why they have to explain it. Regardless of where things stand now, betting on baseball was always the one inescapable mortal sin in that sport. Every player, manager, and team employee knew it and it was made obvious to them many times over. While I happen to think the steroid users had far more of a negative impact from a competitive and performance standpoint, that doesn't change that Rose was just a dumbass in thinking he wouldn't get caught.

He was still one of the greatest to ever play the game...
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #231 on: October 01, 2024, 09:34:09 pm »
Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on October 01, 2024, 06:21:40 pm
It's not just betting on baseball, it was betting on his team (or not betting some games). That's different from fan betting because he had the opportunity to impact the outcome of the games he was betting on

We would be naive to think it's not even more widespread, if more clandestine, today.  He was made an example...not for gambling per se...but for lying about it to Bud.  That was his real sin...had he come clean, this would no longer be an issue...IMHO, of course ...
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #232 on: October 01, 2024, 10:20:32 pm »
Quote from: varoadking on October 01, 2024, 09:34:09 pm
We would be naive to think it's not even more widespread, if more clandestine, today.  He was made an example...not for gambling per se...but for lying about it to Bud.  That was his real sin...had he come clean, this would no longer be an issue...IMHO, of course ...
lying to Bart, not Bud. I think part of what hurt Rose's case was Giamatti 's death. Those who knew Bart say the stress of the Rose situation ruined Bart's health. Smoked, drank some, but other problems got worse
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #233 on: October 02, 2024, 08:58:47 am »
Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on October 01, 2024, 10:20:32 pm
lying to Bart, not Bud. I think part of what hurt Rose's case was Giamatti 's death. Those who knew Bart say the stress of the Rose situation ruined Bart's health. Smoked, drank some, but other problems got worse

Ah, thanks for the correction...I just remember Bud talking about how he was gonna remain permanently banned...
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #234 on: October 02, 2024, 11:31:09 am »
More or less, only Bart or maybe his kids could forgive Rose. Next time you see Paul, ask him
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« Reply #235 on: October 02, 2024, 12:45:57 pm »
Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on October 02, 2024, 11:31:09 am
More or less, only Bart or maybe his kids could forgive Rose. Next time you see Paul, ask him
met him once, super nice guy.
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #236 on: October 03, 2024, 05:53:31 pm »
Six minutes of Pete Rose talking hitting. East to see why he became a manager:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAlyzhTOFzx/?igsh=OGFvZmhsYTd0ajA0
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #237 on: October 03, 2024, 08:30:41 pm »
Quote from: imref on October 03, 2024, 05:53:31 pm
Six minutes of Pete Rose talking hitting. East to see why he became a manager:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAlyzhTOFzx/?igsh=OGFvZmhsYTd0ajA0

I would have loved to play for Pete or Bobby Knight, for what that’s worth. Probably a moral failing o my part.
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #238 on: October 03, 2024, 09:06:55 pm »
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I would have loved to play for Pete or Bobby Knight, for what that’s worth. Probably a moral failing o my part.
lol closet masochist ;)
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #239 on: October 08, 2024, 12:45:01 pm »
Luis Tiant, 83.
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #240 on: October 08, 2024, 12:51:39 pm »
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Luis Tiant, 83.
Junior.  Don't forget his father was a pitcher also.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Tiant_Sr.
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #241 on: October 08, 2024, 01:00:55 pm »
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Luis Tiant, 83.

should be in the HoF.
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #242 on: October 08, 2024, 01:16:10 pm »
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #243 on: October 08, 2024, 02:01:20 pm »
Quote from: Natsinpwc on October 08, 2024, 01:16:10 pm
YES
does his 1968 ERA still hold up as the best season in the AL after the deadball era?
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #244 on: October 12, 2024, 04:45:40 pm »
Alex Salmond (69) - former First Minister of Scotland.
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #245 on: October 17, 2024, 09:24:28 pm »
Mitzi Gaynor at 93. She was one of my Mom’s favorites.
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #246 on: October 23, 2024, 06:56:25 am »
Fernando Valenzuela :(
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #247 on: October 23, 2024, 09:19:06 am »
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Fernando Valenzuela :(
Rotations in the 1981 World Series:

LAD - Jerry Reuss, Burt Hooton, Fernando, Bob Welch
NYY - Ron Guidry, Tommy John, Dave Righetti, Rick Reuschel

Fernando beat Steve Rogers in NLCS game 5 so he wasn't available for World Series Game 1. Rogers gave up the winning run on a homer to Rick Monday when Rogers came in for the 9th.
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #248 on: October 23, 2024, 11:53:03 am »
RIP.

And still Steve Carlton was robbed of the Cy Young in 1981 by Fernandomania.
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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #249 on: October 24, 2024, 09:44:23 pm »
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