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« Reply #225: October 01, 2024, 04:20:55 PM »
Doing so would only enrich MLB now that he is gone...doesn't do Pete any good.  Better they have to explain how they banned him for gambling while gambling now finances the sport...
Perhaps Draft Kings could take bets on whether or not the commissioner would remove him from the list?

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« Reply #226: October 01, 2024, 04:46:58 PM »
Doing so would only enrich MLB now that he is gone...doesn't do Pete any good.  Better they have to explain how they banned him for gambling while gambling now finances the sport...

I don't see why they have to explain it. Regardless of where things stand now, betting on baseball was always the one inescapable mortal sin in that sport. Every player, manager, and team employee knew it and it was made obvious to them many times over. While I happen to think the steroid users had far more of a negative impact from a competitive and performance standpoint, that doesn't change that Rose was just a dumbass in thinking he wouldn't get caught.

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« Reply #227: October 01, 2024, 05:09:30 PM »
He took a gamble, and lost... ;)

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« Reply #228: October 01, 2024, 06:21:40 PM »
It's not just betting on baseball, it was betting on his team (or not betting some games). That's different from fan betting because he had the opportunity to impact the outcome of the games he was betting on

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« Reply #229: October 01, 2024, 09:28:34 PM »
Perhaps Draft Kings could take bets on whether or not the commissioner would remove him from the list?

Bet on it...

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« Reply #230: October 01, 2024, 09:30:34 PM »
I don't see why they have to explain it. Regardless of where things stand now, betting on baseball was always the one inescapable mortal sin in that sport. Every player, manager, and team employee knew it and it was made obvious to them many times over. While I happen to think the steroid users had far more of a negative impact from a competitive and performance standpoint, that doesn't change that Rose was just a dumbass in thinking he wouldn't get caught.

He was still one of the greatest to ever play the game...

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« Reply #231: October 01, 2024, 09:34:09 PM »
It's not just betting on baseball, it was betting on his team (or not betting some games). That's different from fan betting because he had the opportunity to impact the outcome of the games he was betting on

We would be naive to think it's not even more widespread, if more clandestine, today.  He was made an example...not for gambling per se...but for lying about it to Bud.  That was his real sin...had he come clean, this would no longer be an issue...IMHO, of course ...

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« Reply #232: October 01, 2024, 10:20:32 PM »
We would be naive to think it's not even more widespread, if more clandestine, today.  He was made an example...not for gambling per se...but for lying about it to Bud.  That was his real sin...had he come clean, this would no longer be an issue...IMHO, of course ...
lying to Bart, not Bud. I think part of what hurt Rose's case was Giamatti 's death. Those who knew Bart say the stress of the Rose situation ruined Bart's health. Smoked, drank some, but other problems got worse

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« Reply #233: October 02, 2024, 08:58:47 AM »
lying to Bart, not Bud. I think part of what hurt Rose's case was Giamatti 's death. Those who knew Bart say the stress of the Rose situation ruined Bart's health. Smoked, drank some, but other problems got worse

Ah, thanks for the correction...I just remember Bud talking about how he was gonna remain permanently banned...

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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #234: October 02, 2024, 11:31:09 AM »
More or less, only Bart or maybe his kids could forgive Rose. Next time you see Paul, ask him

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« Reply #235: October 02, 2024, 12:45:57 PM »
More or less, only Bart or maybe his kids could forgive Rose. Next time you see Paul, ask him
met him once, super nice guy.

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« Reply #236: October 03, 2024, 05:53:31 PM »
Six minutes of Pete Rose talking hitting. East to see why he became a manager:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAlyzhTOFzx/?igsh=OGFvZmhsYTd0ajA0

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« Reply #237: October 03, 2024, 08:30:41 PM »
Six minutes of Pete Rose talking hitting. East to see why he became a manager:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAlyzhTOFzx/?igsh=OGFvZmhsYTd0ajA0

I would have loved to play for Pete or Bobby Knight, for what that’s worth. Probably a moral failing o my part.

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« Reply #238: October 03, 2024, 09:06:55 PM »
I would have loved to play for Pete or Bobby Knight, for what that’s worth. Probably a moral failing o my part.
lol closet masochist ;)

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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #239: October 08, 2024, 12:45:01 PM »
Luis Tiant, 83.

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« Reply #240: October 08, 2024, 12:51:39 PM »
Luis Tiant, 83.
Junior.  Don't forget his father was a pitcher also.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Tiant_Sr.

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« Reply #241: October 08, 2024, 01:00:55 PM »
Luis Tiant, 83.

should be in the HoF.

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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #243: October 08, 2024, 02:01:20 PM »
YES
does his 1968 ERA still hold up as the best season in the AL after the deadball era?

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Re: Deaths of famous people (2024)
« Reply #244: Yesterday at 04:45:40 PM »
Alex Salmond (69) - former First Minister of Scotland.