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Re: Follow the Prospects: Jarlin Susana, RHP
« Reply #200 on: February 18, 2025, 08:10:31 am »
#19 on Logenhagen's top 100.
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2025-top-100-prospects/
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Here's Longenhagen's summary:

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Susana has one of the planet’s nastiest sliders and touches 102.

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While he was still an amateur, Susana had a very, very late velocity spike and progressed from throwing in the mid-80s to the mid-90s in a very short period of time. Because he popped up late relative to his peers, most of the pool money when he was first eligible to sign had already been committed, and he opted to wait a year so that more teams could pursue him with a meaningful bonus. The Padres signed him for $1.7 million and pushed him to camp in Arizona during 2022 minor league spring training. Susana had only pitched in eight official games on the complex before the Padres traded him to Washington as part of the Juan Soto deal. After a walk-prone 2023 (40 free passes in 63 innings) and a rough start to his 2024, Susana appeared to turn a corner in June. He had five dominant starts in a row, was promoted to High-A Wilmington, and then only had two starts the rest of the year in which he walked more than two batters. Susana ended up working 103.2 innings (40 more than the prior season), struck out 35.4% of his opponents, and generated groundballs at a whopping 60% clip.

It’s easy to point to Susana’s velocity (which he held basically all year) as an impact attribute, but it’s his slider that’s easily his best pitch. There are times when it has cutter-movement, but it has eye-crossing downward bend at its best, in the Brad Lidge slider mold, except as hard as 92 mph. It’s a slam dunk 80-grade pitch that generated misses just over 50% of the time in 2024. Susana’s fastball will touch triple-digits, which is enough for it to dominant A-ball hitters. It lacks great movement or tough angle, and its performance will probably keel off a bit as Susana faces upper-level hitters. He barely used his changeup last year; it’s currently a glorified two-seamer in the 92-94 mph range. One out of every 10 or so of Susana’s changeups is any good, but he often casts it and it sails on him; the ones that flash have enough tailing action to miss bats. His slider has enough utility as a strike-stealer and finisher against lefties that he might not ever need a changeup, but some kind of splinker/splitter thing might emerge down the line, as tends to be the case for lots of the pitchers today who have lower arm slots like Susana. Now that Susana has began to check the “durability” and “control” boxes, seemingly at the same time, he’s one of the most exciting pitching prospects in baseball. He’s a 6-foot-6 Leviathan on track to gobble up NL East hitters in 2027.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Jarlin Susana, RHP
« Reply #201 on: February 18, 2025, 08:11:14 am »
Honestly, he's way to bullish. Susana isn't going to be throwing 98-102 as a starter in the big leagues. Logenhagen is proposing that Susana has as good of a chance of being Spencer Strider as he has of being a bust. And that seems ridiculous to me.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Jarlin Susana, RHP
« Reply #202 on: February 18, 2025, 08:33:12 am »
Honestly, he's way to bullish. Susana isn't going to be throwing 98-102 as a starter in the big leagues. Logenhagen is proposing that Susana has as good of a chance of being Spencer Strider as he has of being a bust. And that seems ridiculous to me.
He's alone on an island on his projection. Still, it's nice to see the bullish case. I think he'll need a 3rd pitch to make his fastball better. Also, he offered a good view of Susana's improving control, which I think was the biggest knock in 2023 and early last year. Doesn't even touch on the FIP-ERA problem caused by bad fielders in the low minors. Even if you sand down some of the extreme :az: , it's nice to see him explain the basis for the best case.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Jarlin Susana, RHP
« Reply #203 on: February 18, 2025, 08:37:40 am »
Honestly, he's way to bullish. Susana isn't going to be throwing 98-102 as a starter in the big leagues. Logenhagen is proposing that Susana has as good of a chance of being Spencer Strider as he has of being a bust. And that seems ridiculous to me.
Seems Susana should be a reliever. 

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Jarlin Susana, RHP
« Reply #204 on: February 19, 2025, 01:09:28 pm »
#19 on Logenhagen's top 100.
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2025-top-100-prospects/
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If Nats were good, I'd say send him to pen and get him to Rochester and to DC.

In this reality, may as well play the starter game for a while juuuuuust in case.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Jarlin Susana, RHP
« Reply #205 on: February 19, 2025, 02:13:28 pm »
one of the social media accounts posted video earlier of Susana blowing heat past Wood.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Jarlin Susana, RHP
« Reply #206 on: March 09, 2025, 07:28:13 pm »
I wonder if Fangraphs used any comps in its model for him other than Hunter Greene.  It's pretty much the same stuff from a similar body, and Greene has had one very good MLB season, a couple mediocre ones, a Tommy John, and will never be able to go through an order 3 times despite being the size of a small apartment building.

I'm never optimistic on 2-pitch guys as starters where the winning case requires blowing high fastballs by MLB hitters.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Jarlin Susana, RHP
« Reply #207 on: March 10, 2025, 11:30:14 am »
I wonder if Fangraphs used any comps in its model for him other than Hunter Greene.  It's pretty much the same stuff from a similar body, and Greene has had one very good MLB season, a couple mediocre ones, a Tommy John, and will never be able to go through an order 3 times despite being the size of a small apartment building.

I'm never optimistic on 2-pitch guys as starters where the winning case requires blowing high fastballs by MLB hitters.
among the odd things in their write up is that they project his changeup to be usable. 30 current value but 45 future value. If he works on it this year at higher levels and it does end up usable, then his profile I think is better. I think he made progress on his control second half of last year, which is his other weakness.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Jarlin Susana, RHP
« Reply #208 on: March 14, 2025, 03:34:50 pm »
Wild today. I think he pitches from Wilmington to Harrisburg, and gains control.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Jarlin Susana, RHP
« Reply #209 on: March 26, 2025, 10:23:14 am »
According to MLB.com he will start season in Harrisburg.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Jarlin Susana, RHP
« Reply #210 on: March 26, 2025, 11:56:09 am »
According to MLB.com he will start season in Harrisburg.
I like the aggressiveness.