Patrick Corbin Consternation Thread

[Senatorswin]

Corbin's ERA is 8.00. Do we expect it to improve over the course of the year?

[Mattionals]

Corbin's ERA is 8.00. Do we expect it to improve over the course of the year?

I refer to my previous post.

[RobDibblesGhost]

Corbin's ERA is 8.00. Do we expect it to improve over the course of the year?

Sadly, no. Something has to give at some point.

[welch]

Try Finnegan as a three-inning opener and make Corbin a two-inning middle reliever. Or just DFA Corbin and bring up Espino. Corbin is a negative. That he never gets hurt means he throws a loss every few days.

[imref]

Even with yesterday's win, he's at 7.71 ERA and 2.143 WHIP.  -0.4 WAR so far.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Even with yesterday's win, he's at 7.71 ERA and 2.143 WHIP.  -0.4 WAR so far.

you can't really call it anything  more than, in context, his start didn't kill the team, but in most circumstances, 4 runs over 5 innings from your starter will not kill you.

[Slateman]

One decent start away from a sub 5.00 ERA

[imref]

He was under 5.00 until the 8th. Maybe he's feeling better knowing he's not the top guy in the rotation anymore? Another John Lannan?

Today's outing:
80 P
7 IP
3 H
2 R
0 BB
6 K

[IanRubbish]

He was under 5.00 until the 8th. Maybe he's feeling better knowing he's not the top guy in the rotation anymore? Another John Lannan?

Today's outing:
80 P
7 IP
3 H
2 R
0 BB
6 K

If he can just keep it to 15-16 pitches an inning and stop wasting pitches with the sliders in the dirt that would be a big improvement.

[Senatorswin]

I was just reading a story about Corbin in last Sundays WAPO. Rizzo is quoted as saying there's no way the Nats win the World Series without Corbin.

It's good to see he's pitching better.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

At this point, if he's just a 4.75 ERA 6-7 inning guy, that's all we need.

[Mattionals]

At this point, if he's just a 4.75 ERA 6-7 inning guy, that's all we need.

There is value in that. A guy who eats that many innings with that ERA is a quality back end starter to many teams.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

There is value in that. A guy who eats that many innings with that ERA is a quality back end starter to many teams.

yes.  I'm not asking for 2019. Just someone who doesn't kill your chances every time out.

[Senatorswin]

Hopefully he can fill the role Jordan Lyles did for the Orioles last year.

[imref]

4.87

[JCA-CrystalCity]

At this point, if he's just a 4.75 ERA 6-7 inning guy, that's all we need.

4.87

may be getting my wish. maybe more.

being a super sunshiner, a Corbin who is at this level serves the purpose that Williams serves in the rotation if there's a numbers squeeze. I could see a guy like Williams being attractive to a thin rotation team like Boston if they are on the wild card fringe

[Mattionals]

may be getting my wish. maybe more.

being a super sunshiner, a Corbin who is at this level serves the purpose that Williams serves in the rotation if there's a numbers squeeze. I could see a guy like Williams being attractive to a thin rotation team like Boston if they are on the wild card fringe

If our ownership cared at all, they would eat considerable salary and flip Corbin instead of Williams. Same amount of control left but Williams is younger and is more likely to be the back end guy next season. I feel the return for either is going to be about the same, but Corbin being a lefty might help. Again, the key would be eating salary and ownership is certainly not doing that.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

If our ownership cared at all, they would eat considerable salary and flip Corbin instead of Williams. Same amount of control left but Williams is younger and is more likely to be the back end guy next season. I feel the return for either is going to be about the same, but Corbin being a lefty might help. Again, the key would be eating salary and ownership is certainly not doing that.

that's a given.

the way i see things play out, there's a phase  in of rotation candidates. irvin is a start, but then I think Rutledge and next year Cavalli eventually being phased in. that means clearing spots. williams this year and corbin next if things are on track. plenty of wild cards (henry, adon, stras, bennett) and potential for disappointment, too, but it is reasonable to think 4 or 5 rotation slots in 2025 could be Gray's experience level or less.

[imref]

if Corbin continues to pitch well he will have a lot of value to a contender down the stretch.

[Section214]

if Corbin continues to pitch well he will have a lot of value to a contender down the stretch.

If that value is enough for a team to trade us a bag of baseballs while taking Corbin's contract, what a huge coup.

[nfotiu]

I can see somebody over-paying a bit for a lefty with playoff experience if he continues to be somewhat solid.

Just one year left after this year.   Nats owners could eat a little of the salary, say 10 million, if it saves money overall.

[Natsinpwc]

I can see somebody over-paying a bit for a lefty with playoff experience if he continues to be somewhat solid.

Just one year left after this year.   Nats owners could eat a little of the salary, say 10 million, if it saves money overall.

They will have to absorb most of his salary to make any trade. Especially this summer with 2024 still remaining. 

[Mattionals]

They will have to absorb most of his salary to make any trade. Especially this summer with 2024 still remaining.

Exactly. Corbin is owed 35M next year. No team is taking all that on for even a decent innings eater.

[IanRubbish]

Corbin also has a $10 million deferral in 2025.  In the unlikely event another team wanted Corbin’s pitching, there is zero percent chance they would take Corbin’s contract without the Nats paying the rest above league min.

[Mattionals]

Corbin also has a $10 million deferral in 2025.  In the unlikely event another team wanted Corbin’s pitching, there is zero percent chance they would take Corbin’s contract without the Nats paying the rest above league min.

Another team would likely take on Corbin for about 8M a season. No deferred money. If Nats ownership ate the rest and left say the prorated difference of about 8M this season and 8M next season, you could trade Corbin and get a flier from single A or AA.