Author Topic: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves (Read 118541 times)

aspenbubba · « **Reply #675 on:** December 03, 2018, 03:41:59 pm »

Quote from: Expos on December 03, 2018, 03:30:52 pm

We don't need 4 aces. We will sign or trade for a quality #3. Roark is better than most teams #4 and we have Ross and Fedde to compete as our #5

What we need is for our guys to stay healthy, consistent hitting and and stable bullpen. If we have all those 3 we will be a hard team to beat.

Roark is coming off two below par years. Ross and Fedde are questionable at best. Ross will not make 25 starts and Fedde quite frankly sucks and can't get thru 5 innings without imploding.

Mattionals · « **Reply #676 on:** December 03, 2018, 03:57:42 pm »

Quote from: aspenbubba on December 03, 2018, 03:41:59 pm

Roark is coming off two below par years. Ross and Fedde are questionable at best. Ross will not make 25 starts and Fedde quite frankly sucks and can't get thru 5 innings without imploding.

Corbin isn't an ace, and Greinke isn't either. Those are good quality 2-3 guys. Max is an ace. Strasburg is a sometimes ace, but more in the Greinke/Corbin mold. I'll take Scherzer/Strasburg/Corbin/Greinke/Ross with Fedde/Henderson Alvarez/scrap heap arm in the wings. That is enough protection in the rotation when inevitably Stras gets hurt.

Slateman · « **Reply #677 on:** December 03, 2018, 04:01:46 pm »

We need two guys who can give you at least 180 innings of <3.50 ERA ball

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #678 on:** December 03, 2018, 04:02:16 pm »

Quote from: Mattionals on December 03, 2018, 03:57:42 pm

Corbin isn't an ace, and Greinke isn't either. Those are good quality 2-3 guys. Max is an ace. Strasburg is a sometimes ace, but more in the Greinke/Corbin mold. I'll take Scherzer/Strasburg/Corbin/Greinke/Ross with Fedde/Henderson Alvarez/scrap heap arm in the wings. That is enough protection in the rotation when inevitably Stras gets hurt.

I'm not giving anything up to get Greinke. Pay for Corbin and Morton or something like that and you let Roark, Ross, Fedde fight it out for the 5 spot.

Greg_SRT · « **Reply #679 on:** December 03, 2018, 04:02:36 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on December 03, 2018, 04:01:46 pm

We need two guys who can give you at least 180 innings of <3.50 ERA ball

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sixthree175 · « **Reply #680 on:** December 03, 2018, 04:25:14 pm »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on December 03, 2018, 04:02:16 pm

I'm not giving anything up to get Greinke. Pay for Corbin and Morton or something like that and you let Roark, Ross, Fedde fight it out for the 5 spot.

Yes, Greinke's too expensive. If Roark, Ross, or Fedde end up as a #4, this team will end up in the middle of the pack.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #681 on:** December 03, 2018, 04:27:50 pm »

Quote from: sixthree175 on December 03, 2018, 04:25:14 pm

Yes, Greinke's too expensive. If Roark, Ross, or Fedde end up as a #4, this team will end up in the middle of the pack.

Maybe. If it's Max, Stras, Corbin, they'll be right in the mix. You can add a starter mid-season in that situation.

Expos · « **Reply #682 on:** December 03, 2018, 04:41:30 pm »

Quote from: sixthree175 on December 03, 2018, 04:25:14 pm

Yes, Greinke's too expensive. If Roark, Ross, or Fedde end up as a #4, this team will end up in the middle of the pack.

I disagree. Add one more arm to pitch Gio's innings and hopefully our BP doesn't blow 30 games like they did last year.

Expos · « **Reply #683 on:** December 03, 2018, 04:48:59 pm »

If we dont get Corbin, Dallas Keuchel is a nice plan B as a 3rd starter. 5 years, 100 million or so should get it done.

Then grab a 2nd tier guy like JA, Happ, Derek Holland, Charlie Morton or Trevor Cahill on a 2 year deal for the back end of the rotation.

imref · « **Reply #684 on:** December 03, 2018, 04:53:42 pm »

Quote from: Expos on December 03, 2018, 04:41:30 pm

I disagree. Add one more arm to pitch Gio's innings and hopefully our BP doesn't blow 30 games like they did last year.

the rest of the division around us is going to be much better. Replacing Gio and hoping for a non-imploding bullpen won't cut it.

Expos · « **Reply #685 on:** December 03, 2018, 04:59:16 pm »

Quote from: imref on December 03, 2018, 04:53:42 pm

the rest of the division around us is going to be much better. Replacing Gio and hoping for a non-imploding bullpen won't cut it.

Yes it will.

Hopefully Zimmerman and Doolittle stay healthy.

We will have Eaton, Kendrick and Soto for a full year.

Our catching situation is a million times better.

Add another arm and some more pitching depth and have a shut down pen and this team takes the division.

hotshot · « **Reply #686 on:** December 03, 2018, 05:02:48 pm »

Mets and Indians talking Kluber and Conforte. IF Syndergaard stays, that would give the Mets deGrom, Noah and Kluber. Not a bad trio.

Mattionals · « **Reply #687 on:** December 03, 2018, 05:09:58 pm »

I'm honestly thinking that bringing back Murphy to play 2B/1B would not be an awful move.

imref · « **Reply #688 on:** December 03, 2018, 05:24:00 pm »

Quote from: Mattionals on December 03, 2018, 05:09:58 pm

I'm honestly thinking that bringing back Murphy to play 2B/1B would not be an awful move.

until I saw your post I had completely forgotten he's a FA this year. Has anyone heard anything about him?

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #689 on:** December 03, 2018, 05:37:56 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on December 03, 2018, 11:34:32 am

https://mobile.twitter.com/Joelsherman1/status/1069628614315032576?s=19

So we're in like Flynn

I'd prefer to be in like Flynt.

UMDNats · « **Reply #690 on:** December 04, 2018, 11:39:21 am »

Why have we not acquired Sonny Gray yet?

Minty Fresh · « **Reply #691 on:** December 04, 2018, 11:52:51 am »

Quote from: UMDNats on December 04, 2018, 11:39:21 am

Why have we not acquired Sonny Gray yet?

Gio Gonzalez 2.0

UMDNats · « **Reply #692 on:** December 04, 2018, 12:26:10 pm »

Quote from: Minty Fresh on December 04, 2018, 11:52:51 am

Gio Gonzalez 2.0

I'll take that. He's a super buy-low candidate right now and a guy with a 4.20 ERA and 180 IP sounds good considering all our hopes and prayers are on Erik Fedde being better than he's ever been, Joe Ross being really good or MYSTERY TURD becoming a #4 pitcher.

CoryTheFormerExposFan · « **Reply #693 on:** December 04, 2018, 12:38:18 pm »

Adding a solid #2/#3-type is critical. I think Roark could be a nice bounce-back guy. He's gone from really good to pretty bad back to really good again in the past, and he's still relatively young and there are no apparent health issues. He surely is highly motivated to get things back in the right direction so he can eventually cash in on a nice free agent contract before he's done with the game. I just believe in Tanner as a competitor.

Now, I'm not sure you can bank on Roark rebounding as your #5 AND just go with the better of Ross/Fedde as your #5. I'm more inclined to pick up a steady #4 to round out the back 40% of the rotation with Roark, and have Ross/Fedde as depth. Ross might be a good long guy to have to limit his innings, and then you can stretch him out if need be when a starter is on the DL. I hope Fedde can emerge, but I wouldn't pencil him in for anything more than AAA depth.

Slateman · « **Reply #694 on:** December 04, 2018, 12:52:04 pm »

https://mobile.twitter.com/martinonyc/status/1069977467660701697

We're in on Corbin

Squab · « **Reply #695 on:** December 04, 2018, 01:44:56 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on December 04, 2018, 12:52:04 pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/martinonyc/status/1069977467660701697

We're in on Corbin

I desperately hope we do the signature Nat move of being "in" but falling short. No way I want to give this guy 100 mil, he's been good/this pitcher for one year. Keuchel will probably sign for the same AAV but two less years, and be better.

Slateman · « **Reply #696 on:** December 04, 2018, 02:09:17 pm »

Quote from: Squab on December 04, 2018, 01:44:56 pm

I desperately hope we do the signature Nat move of being "in" but falling short. No way I want to give this guy 100 mil, he's been good/this pitcher for one year. Keuchel will probably sign for the same AAV but two less years, and be better.

He was a 3 WAR pitcher the year before, as well as 2013.

hotshot · « **Reply #697 on:** December 04, 2018, 02:14:30 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on December 03, 2018, 04:01:46 pm

We need two guys who can give you at least 180 innings of <3.50 ERA ball

We need to catch lightning in a bottle like the Brewers did in an admittedly small sample with Wade Miley. Miley posted ERAs near (or over) 6.00 with the O's in 2016 and 2017, then goes 5-2, 2.57 in 16 starts with the Brewers. Those type guys are out there!

NatsAllThe Way · « **Reply #698 on:** December 04, 2018, 02:15:42 pm »

Quote from: aspenbubba on December 03, 2018, 03:41:59 pm

Roark is coming off two below par years. Ross and Fedde are questionable at best. Ross will not make 25 starts and Fedde quite frankly sucks and can't get thru 5 innings without imploding.

And Strasburg is a lock to miss a third of the season.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #699 on:** December 04, 2018, 02:18:30 pm »

Quote from: hotshot on December 04, 2018, 02:14:30 pm

We need to catch lightning in a bottle like the Brewers did in an admittedly small sample with Wade Miley. Miley posted ERAs near (or over) 6.00 with the O's in 2016 and 2017, then goes 5-2, 2.57 in 16 starts with the Brewers. Those type guys are out there!

The Nats already did that with Hellickson last year.