Author Topic: I, For One, Welcome Our New CF Overlord (The Robles Thread) (Read 77611 times)

welch · « **Reply #525 on:** April 29, 2022, 03:45:36 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on April 29, 2022, 03:33:32 pm

Thomas can play LF against LHP. Robles is turning a corner. Give him CF

I don't know that Robles is turning a corner, but he plays a good CF. Maybe he is a weak-hitting Jim Busby, but he covers ground, knows when to leap and dive, and he has a good arm.

Robles ought to hit ahead of Fox, at the least. Robles has a chance of getting a hit, like the double last night. Fox is hopeless. (I check on Fox as a minor-leaguer. He is a .240 hitter in AA who barely touched AAA in any organization)

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #526 on:** April 29, 2022, 03:56:07 pm »

Quote from: welch on April 29, 2022, 03:45:36 pm

I don't know that Robles is turning a corner, but he plays a good CF. Maybe he is a weak-hitting Jim Busby, but he covers ground, knows when to leap and dive, and he has a good arm.

Robles ought to head ahead of Fox, at the least. Robles has a chance of getting a hit, like the double last night. Fox is hopeless. (I check on Fox as a minor-leaguer. He is a .240 hitter in AA who barely touched AAA in any organization)

since the game he got his first hit, he's 7 for 28 with 4 doubles and a walk.

welch · « **Reply #527 on:** April 29, 2022, 05:16:02 pm »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on April 29, 2022, 03:56:07 pm

since the game he got his first hit, he's 7 for 28 with 4 doubles and a walk.

I no longer want to close my eyes every time Victor is at bat. Last year, he seemed to want to hide. So, maybe...

On Jim Busby, a superb CF who played that giant center at Griffith Stadium:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/busbyji01.shtml

Busby's SABR bio: https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/jim-busby/#:~:text=James%20Franklin%20Busby%20was%20born,the%20family%20to%20Corpus%20Christi.

Slateman · « **Reply #528 on:** April 30, 2022, 12:04:40 am »

Nice game tonight

Slateman · « **Reply #529 on:** April 30, 2022, 07:10:54 am »

Huge game last night

NatsAllThe Way · « **Reply #530 on:** April 30, 2022, 09:44:30 am »

North of Mendoza. Enjoy it while you can.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #531 on:** April 30, 2022, 11:08:57 am »

Quote from: NatsAllThe Way on April 30, 2022, 09:44:30 am

North of Mendoza. Enjoy it while you can.

more like “get used to it”

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #532 on:** April 30, 2022, 12:23:30 pm »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on April 30, 2022, 11:08:57 am

more like “get used to it”

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #533 on:** April 30, 2022, 12:28:17 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on April 30, 2022, 07:10:54 am

Huge game last night

pulled a double, liner to center, a bunt single, and another groundball single to the left side. That's how he's successful. https://www.wnff.net/index.php?topic=37036.500;msg=2246812

Just one fly to right. Puts the ball in play, no Ks. Very nice.

welch · « **Reply #534 on:** April 30, 2022, 07:30:19 pm »

And a couple more hits today, including an RBI back before the game was hopeless.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #535 on:** April 30, 2022, 08:01:54 pm »

It’s a good thing he started the year in Rochester so he could learn to hit down there/s.

Slateman · « **Reply #536 on:** April 30, 2022, 10:54:25 pm »

Its May 1st, and Robles has the same batting average as Soto

catocony · « **Reply #537 on:** May 12, 2022, 11:05:52 am »

He had a good week or so, but he's heading back towards the Mendoza line with massive overswinging misses and general cluelessness at the plate. Again.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #538 on:** May 12, 2022, 11:36:21 am »

Basically, his nice performance has been limited to the series in San Francisco and the last Marlins game of the prior homestand. 4 games, 9 hits of his 17 on the year. Since then, 2 hits, 1 walk, in 26 PAs.

You can practically use his May splits for this stretch since only one game from his short hot streak was in May. It's all beating up on small numbers, but it really does seem like his short hot streak created an illusion of turning things around.
https://www.fangraphs.com/players/victor-robles/18363/splits?position=OF&season=2022

Can hit lefties and play defense. If Franco and Ruiz are hitting, we can probably afford to play him in CF against everybody and still score runs. His glove is that much better than Thomas, and Thomas is righty too.

imref · « **Reply #539 on:** May 12, 2022, 11:37:16 am »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on May 12, 2022, 11:36:21 am

Basically, his nice performance has been limited to the series in San Francisco and the last Marlins game of the prior homestand. 4 games, 9 hits of his 17 on the year. Since then, 2 hits, 1 walk, in 26 PAs.

You can practically use his May splits for this stretch since only one game from his short hot streak was in May. It's all beating up on small numbers, but it really does seem like his short hot streak created an illusion of turning things around.
https://www.fangraphs.com/players/victor-robles/18363/splits?position=OF&season=2022

Vic is the new Danny Espinosa, the guy who kept showing flashes, got chances because he could field, and never put it together.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #540 on:** May 12, 2022, 11:43:32 am »

the other thing - its' small numbers, but he's gone back to hitting fly balls. He was aorund 80% ground balls and liners in April, and he's down to < 60% in May. Not that it tells you much about his true talent, but it does explain the bad results we are seeing.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #541 on:** May 27, 2022, 05:07:47 pm »

Starts since May 15 (11 games):
Robles: 5 (2 games as a D replacement)
Yadi: 9 (one day off, one game as D replacement)
Thomas: 9 (2 games as a D replacement; 5 appearances in LF, 6 in CF, 2 shifts to right for D)

IT looks like Thomas is getting a strong look as a starter. Yadi also getting the bulk of the starts in left ((one appearance as DH, 1 PH. 7 games in left).

welch · « **Reply #542 on:** May 27, 2022, 07:32:08 pm »

Robles at least swings hard now. Most of his hits are bunts, yes, and he's not much of a bunter when he needs to bunt to move a runner or score somebody. Not a Phil Rizzuto bunter, as Rizzuto could bunt soft or hard to any spot he needed. Still, Robles looks happy at the plate, where last season he looked miserable to be out in front of a crowd trying to do something it seemed he knew he couldn't do.

Simplifying JCA, looks like Robles has 3 starts in CF and Thomas has 6.

Slateman · « **Reply #543 on:** May 27, 2022, 07:42:50 pm »

He is worse. Time to non-tender him in the offseason

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #544 on:** May 27, 2022, 07:53:08 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on May 27, 2022, 07:42:50 pm

He is worse. Time to non-tender him in the offseason

it looks like he may be moving to d replace and short side of a

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RobDibblesGhost · « **Reply #545 on:** May 28, 2022, 02:07:45 pm »

Hell of a day for him so far today.

aspenbubba · « **Reply #546 on:** May 28, 2022, 03:59:19 pm »

Too lazy to look up his average if you deduct the first 20 AB's of the season when he had one hit.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #547 on:** May 28, 2022, 04:39:04 pm »

Quote from: aspenbubba on May 28, 2022, 03:59:19 pm

Too lazy to look up his average if you deduct the first 20 AB's of the season when he had one hit.

if I did my math right, he’s hitting .273 since then

He went 1/4 in the game he got his first hit in. I didn’t adjust for that. Just the first 8 appearances where he was 0/17.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #548 on:** May 28, 2022, 04:40:01 pm »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on May 28, 2022, 04:39:04 pm

if I did my math right, he’s hitting .273 since then

I just got .272. Close enough.

welch · « **Reply #549 on:** May 28, 2022, 06:24:32 pm »

Went 3 for 3 with 6 RBIs, I think. Average up to .250 or so. I have seen that he swings hard, as if he is no long scared in the batter's box. Like finding a thousand ounces of gold, if it keeps up.