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Offline CoryTheFormerExposFan

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1400 on: July 17, 2018, 03:54:48 pm »
Quote from: Slateman on July 16, 2018, 10:18:15 pm
Only because if his name. If he was named Brian Goodwin,  he wouldn't start

Does Brian Goodwin have the track record and talent behind his name of Harper?  What a joke.
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Offline CoryTheFormerExposFan

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1401 on: July 17, 2018, 03:55:48 pm »
Quote from: Baseball is Life on July 17, 2018, 11:40:43 am
There are people who pathologically hate Harper so I just dismiss them. They can't even enjoy last night's epic moment for DC baseball. Their loss.

He reminds them of the guy in High School they wished they were. 
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« Reply #1402 on: July 17, 2018, 04:00:09 pm »
Quote from: CoryTheFormerExposFan on July 17, 2018, 03:54:48 pm
Does Brian Goodwin have the track record and talent behind his name of Harper?  What a joke.

SlapNuts's entire existence is a joke.  He's just a crapposter.
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Offline Expos

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1403 on: July 17, 2018, 09:01:52 pm »
Remember when I suggested we trade Harper in the offseason and some of you guys scoffed at the suggestion saying no team would give up anything for Harper for a one year rental?

Well the Dodgers are about to trade top OF prospect Yusniel Diaz to Baltimore for 50 games of Manny Machado.

If we lose Harper and dont get anything in return it will really hurt this franchise.
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Offline Greg_SRT

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1404 on: July 17, 2018, 09:12:56 pm »
Quote from: Expos on July 17, 2018, 09:01:52 pm
Remember when I suggested we trade Harper in the offseason and some of you guys scoffed at the suggestion saying no team would give up anything for Harper for a one year rental?

Well the Dodgers are about to trade top OF prospect Yusniel Diaz to Baltimore for 50 games of Manny Machado.

If we lose Harper and dont get anything in return it will really hurt this franchise.

Difference is Baltimore isn’t going to try and resign or extend Manny. Nats want Harper to stay.
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Offline bluestreak

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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1405 on: July 17, 2018, 09:15:16 pm »
Quote from: Expos on July 17, 2018, 09:01:52 pm
Remember when I suggested we trade Harper in the offseason and some of you guys scoffed at the suggestion saying no team would give up anything for Harper for a one year rental?

Well the Dodgers are about to trade top OF prospect Yusniel Diaz to Baltimore for 50 games of Manny Machado.

If we lose Harper and dont get anything in return it will really hurt this franchise.

Shortstop more valuable that outfield bat. Machado hitting 100 points better than Harper. Machado has 3.8 WAR and a wRC+ of 156. Harper has 1.3 WAR and a wRC+ of 119. They are not even close to equal value at this point.
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« Reply #1406 on: July 17, 2018, 09:27:30 pm »
Quote from: bluestreak on July 17, 2018, 09:15:16 pm
Shortstop more valuable that outfield bat. Machado hitting 100 points better than Harper. Machado has 3.8 WAR and a wRC+ of 156. Harper has 1.3 WAR and a wRC+ of 119. They are not even close to equal value at this point.

What was their value in the offseason when I suggested it though?
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« Reply #1407 on: July 17, 2018, 09:34:52 pm »
Oh no, he sucks again.
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« Reply #1408 on: July 17, 2018, 09:39:00 pm »
Quote from: Expos on July 17, 2018, 09:27:30 pm
What was their value in the offseason when I suggested it though?

So Bryce was worth twice as many wins as Machado last year. But Harper was still an outfielder and Machado was still a SS. The Tigers got nothing for JD Martinez, for instance. And why would you have traded Harper in the off-season when you were pushing for a WS. The Nats would have been evsicerated in all corners (except for a few of WNFF). It’s a move that made zero baseball sense.
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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1409 on: July 17, 2018, 09:48:21 pm »
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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1410 on: July 17, 2018, 09:57:56 pm »
Quote from: bluestreak on July 17, 2018, 09:39:00 pm
So Bryce was worth twice as many wins as Machado last year. But Harper was still an outfielder and Machado was still a SS. The Tigers got nothing for JD Martinez, for instance. And why would you have traded Harper in the off-season when you were pushing for a WS. The Nats would have been evsicerated in all corners (except for a few of WNFF). It’s a move that made zero baseball sense.

I also suggested we sign JD Martinez.

Martinez and a boat-load of prospects is better than Harper.
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« Reply #1411 on: July 17, 2018, 10:03:51 pm »
Quote from: Expos on July 17, 2018, 09:57:56 pm
I also suggested we sign JD Martinez.

Martinez and a boat-load of prospects is better than Harper.
We would not have gotten a boat load of prospects.
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« Reply #1412 on: July 17, 2018, 10:11:42 pm »
Quote from: Expos on July 17, 2018, 09:57:56 pm
I also suggested we sign JD Martinez.

Martinez and a boat-load of prospects is better than Harper.

No national league team had any business signing Martinez long term.
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Offline aBaltoNat

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« Reply #1413 on: July 17, 2018, 10:22:55 pm »
Quote from: bluestreak on July 17, 2018, 10:11:42 pm
No national league team had any business signing Martinez long term.

I agree you couldn't trade him...but JD in LF would be no worse than Adams.
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« Reply #1414 on: July 17, 2018, 10:58:44 pm »
Quote from: aBaltoNat on July 17, 2018, 10:22:55 pm
I agree you couldn't trade him...but JD in LF would be no worse than Adams.

This is true this year and next maybe.  But year 5 of that deal? It would be awful.
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« Reply #1415 on: July 18, 2018, 01:30:59 am »
Quote from: bluestreak on July 17, 2018, 10:58:44 pm
This is true this year and next maybe.  But year 5 of that deal? It would be awful.

Two years in left and three on 1B all the while smashing 35 homers a year would be good for me.
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« Reply #1416 on: July 18, 2018, 01:32:19 am »
Quote from: Slateman on July 17, 2018, 10:03:51 pm
We would not have gotten a boat load of prospects.

I disagree 100%

Harper was coming off a better year than Machado and the Dodgers are giving up their best OF prospect for 50 games.

We would have got a killing for Harper.
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« Reply #1417 on: July 18, 2018, 01:38:31 am »
Quote from: Expos on July 18, 2018, 01:32:19 am
I disagree 100%

Harper was coming off a better year than Machado and the Dodgers are giving up their best OF prospect for 50 games.

We would have got a killing for Harper.

Harper’s comp is Martinez. The Tigers got very, very little for him. Dodgers are overpaying because they desperately need a shortstop.
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Offline aspenbubba

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« Reply #1418 on: July 18, 2018, 07:03:02 am »
if any of you were looking for a bump from Harper like I was after the Derby I am thinking his 2 K's dispelled that hope rather quickly
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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1419 on: July 18, 2018, 07:18:55 am »
Quote from: Expos on July 18, 2018, 01:32:19 am
I disagree 100%

Harper was coming off a better year than Machado and the Dodgers are giving up their best OF prospect for 50 games.

We would have got a killing for Harper.

Harper also just trashed his knee and was coming of a miserable month of September and a poor showing in the postseason. I'd have been surprised if the Nationals could have gotten the equivalent of what Yelich got.

And honestly, none of the names mentioned in Machado rumors are top prospects.
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Offline LoveAngelos

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« Reply #1420 on: July 18, 2018, 07:32:33 am »
Camelphelia is one of societies least talked about tabus. But being affectionate with camels does not make one a bad person or player
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Offline rileyn

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« Reply #1421 on: July 18, 2018, 08:38:08 am »
I've come around on this.  Offer Bryce a fair contract, don't go overboard, see if he is serious about wanting to stay, and then if he re-signs put him at 1B.   I would have said trade Robles, but that leaves us with 3 lefties in the OF.  I'm not trading Soto, so I guess you could also move him to 1B. 
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Offline aspenbubba

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« Reply #1422 on: July 18, 2018, 09:14:13 am »
Quote from: rileyn on July 18, 2018, 08:38:08 am
I've come around on this.  Offer Bryce a fair contract, don't go overboard, see if he is serious about wanting to stay, and then if he re-signs put him at 1B.   I would have said trade Robles, but that leaves us with 3 lefties in the OF.  I'm not trading Soto, so I guess you could also move him to 1B. 

Two years at 25M + per and let him re-establish his value both to benefit him and the Nats
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Re: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond
« Reply #1423 on: July 18, 2018, 09:18:28 am »
Quote from: aspenbubba on July 18, 2018, 09:14:13 am
Two years at 25M + per and let him re-establish his value both to benefit him and the Nats
*Uh .... no, I'm not paying 25 million for Bryce Harper so he can re-establish his value.
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« Reply #1424 on: July 18, 2018, 09:37:30 am »
Quote from: Slateman on July 18, 2018, 09:18:28 am
*Uh .... no, I'm not paying 25 million for Bryce Harper so he can re-establish his value.

Good thing, then. The Lerners have to pay that money, not you...
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