Author Topic: MLB & Division Watching (2011) (Read 140244 times)

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #325 on:** March 20, 2011, 10:14:16 pm »

Quote from: PANatsFan on March 20, 2011, 08:35:26 pm

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/woodbr01.shtml

Brandon Wood is a worse hitter than Wil Nieves

Wood has like the second worst stats of all time for any qualified hitter.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #326 on:** March 21, 2011, 08:49:36 am »

Wood is the opposite of WMP. Stayed too long in the minors. If the Angels had really thought he was as flawed a hitter as he turned out to be, they should have traded him when he was a Longoria level prospect. They don't seem to have a good sense of the value of their players. their self scouting I think has problems. Who would have figured that Sean Rodriguez would have had a better career than Wood? That'll be true if neither does anything more. Among Kendrick, Alberto Callaspo, Wood, Erick Aybar, and Rodriguez, I guess they ended up getting something useful out of Kendrick and Aybar.

Was their best trade since '02 Juan Rivera and Izturis for Jose Guillen?

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #327 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:14:47 am »

Oliver Perez finally released.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #328 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:18:27 am »

Quote from: Tyler Durden on March 21, 2011, 09:14:47 am

Oliver Perez finally released.

Not sure why that brought this to mind

imref · « **Reply #329 on:** March 21, 2011, 10:17:24 am »

Quote from: Tyler Durden on March 21, 2011, 09:14:47 am

Oliver Perez finally released.

please tell me Rizzo doesn't offer him a contract.

blue911 · « **Reply #330 on:** March 21, 2011, 10:27:28 am »

Quote from: imref on March 21, 2011, 10:17:24 am

please tell me Rizzo doesn't offer him a contract.

I'd take a minor league flier on the guy in a heartbeat.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #331 on:** March 21, 2011, 11:16:52 am »

Quote from: imref on March 21, 2011, 10:17:24 am

please tell me Rizzo doesn't offer him a contract.

He gets waived through baseball, sticking the Mets with his current contract. Then whoever signs him is only stuck for what they sign him for (the mets I think get an offset for his new contract). I can see him getting a major league deal from someone, but I think he's best off signing a minor league deal with a right to walk in June if he's not called up.

CALSGR8 · « **Reply #332 on:** March 21, 2011, 12:39:20 pm »

Baltimore fan gets thrown out of Rays game for making racist remarks.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/21/orioles-fan-removed-racist-bj-upton_n_838270.html?utm_source=Triggermail&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Daily+Brief&utm_campaign=daily_brief

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MARCH 20, 2011 Maddon has fan removed from game for making racist comments
Rays manager Joe Maddon summoned security to remove a fan – wearing an Orioles jersey – who he said was yelling racist comments at CF B.J. Upton in the dugout duing Sunday's game at Charlotte Sports Park.
“He said something racial and I didn’t like it,’’ Maddon said. “He can say whatever he wants, but don’t go there. And I didn’t want B.J. to go up into the stands or do anything at that point. So I just wanted to make sure he was taken out of there. There is no room for that at all.’’
A man who said he was the ejected fan went on Twitter later Sunday, claiming Maddon lied and he said nothing racial.
Maddon later told the Times what was said, and it would be considered racial. Upton also heard the commens, as did several of the coaches.

mimontero88 · « **Reply #333 on:** March 21, 2011, 12:48:11 pm »

Quote from: CALSGR8 on March 21, 2011, 12:39:20 pm

Baltimore fan gets thrown out of Rays game for making racist remarks.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/21/orioles-fan-removed-racist-bj-upton_n_838270.html?utm_source=Triggermail&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Daily+Brief&utm_campaign=daily_brief

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MARCH 20, 2011 Maddon has fan removed from game for making racist comments
Rays manager Joe Maddon summoned security to remove a fan – wearing an Orioles jersey – who he said was yelling racist comments at CF B.J. Upton in the dugout duing Sunday's game at Charlotte Sports Park.
“He said something racial and I didn’t like it,’’ Maddon said. “He can say whatever he wants, but don’t go there. And I didn’t want B.J. to go up into the stands or do anything at that point. So I just wanted to make sure he was taken out of there. There is no room for that at all.’’
A man who said he was the ejected fan went on Twitter later Sunday, claiming Maddon lied and he said nothing racial.
Maddon later told the Times what was said, and it would be considered racial. Upton also heard the commens, as did several of the coaches.

You begin to lose humanity when you are the perennial 30th best team in baseball.

houston-nat · « **Reply #334 on:** March 21, 2011, 12:55:49 pm »

Quote from: mimontero88 on March 21, 2011, 12:48:11 pm

You begin to lose humanity when you are the perennial 30th best team in baseball.

Yeah, but this wasn't a Nationals fan.

houston-nat · « **Reply #335 on:** March 21, 2011, 12:55:59 pm »

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #336 on:** March 21, 2011, 12:59:28 pm »

Quote from: CALSGR8 on March 21, 2011, 12:39:20 pm

Baltimore fan gets thrown out of Rays game for making racist remarks.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/21/orioles-fan-removed-racist-bj-upton_n_838270.html?utm_source=Triggermail&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Daily+Brief&utm_campaign=daily_brief

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MARCH 20, 2011 Maddon has fan removed from game for making racist comments
Rays manager Joe Maddon summoned security to remove a fan – wearing an Orioles jersey – who he said was yelling racist comments at CF B.J. Upton in the dugout duing Sunday's game at Charlotte Sports Park.
“He said something racial and I didn’t like it,’’ Maddon said. “He can say whatever he wants, but don’t go there. And I didn’t want B.J. to go up into the stands or do anything at that point. So I just wanted to make sure he was taken out of there. There is no room for that at all.’’
A man who said he was the ejected fan went on Twitter later Sunday, claiming Maddon lied and he said nothing racial.
Maddon later told the Times what was said, and it would be considered racial. Upton also heard the commens, as did several of the coaches.

Recalls a time I went to OPACY and some jerk thought he was being clever with one word that is a slur in some contexts but not in most. Reserved it for an African-American player on the Os. We pulled an usher over who gave the guy the hairy eyeball and Mr. Braveheart shut up. Good for Maddon. Upton probably would have let it slide, but it's good that Maddon would not.

mimontero88 · « **Reply #337 on:** March 21, 2011, 01:15:18 pm »

Quote from: houston-nat on March 21, 2011, 12:55:49 pm

Yeah, but this wasn't a Nationals fan.

Touche, good sir.

imref · « **Reply #338 on:** March 21, 2011, 08:16:12 pm »

Indians release Jensen Lewis, he seems like someone we should take a flier on (didn't we have a "this guy got released, the Nats should grab him" thread?)

Lewis is 27 and per MLBTR: 2.97 ERA, 7.2 K/9, 4.7 BB/9, 0.2 HR/9, and 30.4% groundball rate in 36 1/3 big league innings last year.

Nathan · « **Reply #339 on:** March 21, 2011, 08:20:53 pm »

DFA, according to twitter, not released.

Nathan · « **Reply #340 on:** March 21, 2011, 08:30:31 pm »

Oh, and here is that thread imref:
http://www.wnff.net/index.php/topic,17079.0.html

imref · « **Reply #341 on:** March 21, 2011, 08:59:15 pm »

Quote from: Nathan on March 21, 2011, 08:30:31 pm

Oh, and here is that thread imref:
http://www.wnff.net/index.php/topic,17079.0.html

thanks !

imref · « **Reply #342 on:** March 22, 2011, 07:35:48 pm »

Twins send Kevin Slowy to the pen, Fangraphs argues that every team in MLB should be on the phone to the Twins trying to trade for him:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-kevin-slowey/

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This guy ranks 56th in ERA among starters (again, 400 IP minimum) since 2008, one spot ahead of Josh Beckett. He ranks 41st in FIP, one spot ahead of Gavin Floyd. He ranks 48th in xFIP, just ahead of Paul Maholm. Yet, despite being peers with some pretty well regarded pitchers, Kevin Slowey has found himself slotted in as the Twins long reliever, if they can’t find anyone to trade for him.

Slowey would represent a legitimate upgrade over at least one member of nearly every rotation in baseball. Over the last three years, the only pitchers in baseball with a better strikeout to walk ratio are Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, and Dan Haren, and none of those three have pitched exclusively in the American League during that stretch.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #343 on:** March 23, 2011, 01:41:34 am »

Not often does a 26 year old, coming off a 13 win season get sent to the pen.

Rizzo get on the phone, ya hear?

Vega · « **Reply #344 on:** March 23, 2011, 01:44:21 am »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on March 23, 2011, 01:41:34 am

Not often does a 26 year old, coming off a 13 win season get sent to the pen.

Rizzo get on the phone, ya hear?

Agreed. Offer Kobernus and Clippard.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #345 on:** March 23, 2011, 09:16:19 am »

If Ben does a drive by here, I'd love to see his thoughts as a Twins fan.

Wasn't Slowey the guy we wanted for Soriano (or turned down for Soriano)?

I once had a conversation with Ben about Slowey and Blackburn and other pitchers in the Twins organization and mistakenly said how they seem to turn similar guys out. Ben correctly pointed out that while both are low K control pitchers, Slowey is an extreme and getting more extreme fly ball pitcher while Blackburn is an extreme groundball guy.

Blackburn is a righty Lannan, without the luck, when you look at GB / FB, HR, K, and BB rates. Slowey's K/BB is outstanding. He is coming from a tough HR park, which you'd figure would favor him, but has not. He had some tough luck in 2009 when he pitched, and 2010 was not a huge bounce back on peripherals. I don't see a hidden gem with those flyball rates.

blue911 · « **Reply #346 on:** March 23, 2011, 09:22:25 am »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on March 23, 2011, 09:16:19 am

If Ben does a drive by here, I'd love to see his thoughts as a Twins fan.

Wasn't Slowey the guy we wanted for Soriano (or turned down for Soriano)?

I once had a conversation with Ben about Slowey and Blackburn and other pitchers in the Twins organization and mistakenly said how they seem to turn similar guys out. Ben correctly pointed out that while both are low K control pitchers, Slowey is an extreme and getting more extreme fly ball pitcher while Blackburn is an extreme groundball guy.

Blackburn is a righty Lannan, without the luck, when you look at GB / FB, HR, K, and BB rates. Slowey's K/BB is outstanding. He is coming from a tough HR park, which you'd figure would favor him, but has not. He had some tough luck in 2009 when he pitched, and 2010 was not a huge bounce back on peripherals. I don't see a hidden gem with those flyball rates.

He failed to complete the 6th inning in 17 of his 28 starts.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #347 on:** March 23, 2011, 09:34:35 am »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on March 23, 2011, 09:16:19 am

If Ben does a drive by here, I'd love to see his thoughts as a Twins fan.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #348 on:** March 23, 2011, 09:42:11 am »

Quote from: blue911 on March 23, 2011, 09:22:25 am

He failed to complete the 6th inning in 17 of his 28 starts.

I missed his injury history too. Cameron omitted it in his article. That has to be a factor, too. Pitching arm wrist (screws inserted 2009), elbow, and bicep.

spidernat · « **Reply #349 on:** March 23, 2011, 11:05:41 am »

We seem to have more fans of other teams here (especially Boston) than Nats fans.