MLB & Division Watching (2010)

[Minty Fresh]

Heymann said that last night, too.  Are they going to defer signing until April to avoid having it count against the lux tax limit?

Are you insinuating that the Red Sox ownership is cheap? 

[blue911]

Are you insinuating that the Red Sox ownership is cheap? 

I just watched the Red Sox presser and Theo said that the extension hadn't been signed.  I guess Theo's a media hack.

[PC]

The Orioles gave up nothing for Reynolds. 

[PANatsFan]

The Orioles gave up nothing for Reynolds. 

Peralta+Clippard would have done it.

[blue911]

Peralta+Clippard would have done it.

Not at all. The snakes wanted young pitchers that were under team control for many,many years.

[PANatsFan]

Not at all. The snakes wanted young pitchers that were under team control for many,many years.

Ok, then Storen and Carr.

[Potomac Cannons]

And Billy Beane makes even less sense to me this offseason.  The A's post the winning bid for Hisashi Iwukama and then can't reach a contract deal with him?  WTF?

[Lintyfresh85]

Jim Tracy collapsed at the meetings this morning.

Taken to the hospital.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101207&content_id=16269622&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

[Coladar]

Wow, that's awful about Tracy. Maybe its something about age + higher altitudes, and not having grown up/lived there? I recall their GM, at barely middle age, dropped dead earlier this year when the Rockies were in town. Hopefully he fares better.

[Kevrock]

And Billy Beane makes even less sense to me this offseason.  The A's post the winning bid for Hisashi Iwukama and then can't reach a contract deal with him?  WTF?

It's not that big a deal, since they get their bid money back. Maybe they'll sign Beltre now.

[Potomac Cannons]

It's not that big a deal, since they get their bid money back. Maybe they'll sign Beltre now.

It's still odd.  How many other teams have ponied up the bid money and then not gotten a contract done?

[tomterp]

And Billy Beane makes even less sense to me this offseason.  The A's post the winning bid for Hisashi Iwukama and then can't reach a contract deal with him?  WTF?

They were blocking the Rangers, never had any intent of signing him.

[Kevrock]

It's still odd.  How many other teams have ponied up the bid money and then not gotten a contract done?

Very. None to my knowledge.

They were blocking the Rangers, never had any intent of signing him.

Really? If so that's amazing.

[Sharp]

They were blocking the Rangers, never had any intent of signing him.

Wowwwww... this seems really shady to me.  Smart, but shady.

[Potomac Cannons]

Smart, shady, ahead of the curve.  Yep, that seems like Billy Beane.

[tomterp]

Wowwwww... this seems really shady to me.  Smart, but shady.

Beane gaming the system.  It's a stupid system anyway, maybe now the Japanese will figure that out.

[blue911]

Beane gaming the system.  It's a stupid system anyway, maybe now the Japanese will figure that out.

Why do you think it's a stupid system?

[tomterp]

Why do you think it's a stupid system?

Teams get most of the money, very little left over for the players.   

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Teams get most of the money, very little left over for the players.   

That's the most socialist thing I've heard in a week.

[blue911]

Teams get most of the money, very little left over for the players.   

Not at all. The players in Japan are team control for a total of 10 years. The US teams are simply buying the right to negotiate with the player. 

[tomterp]

Not at all. The players in Japan are team control for a total of 10 years. The US teams are simply buying the right to negotiate with the player. 

Correct.  That's why the team collects all the $, the player gets screwed.

[blue911]

Correct.  That's why the team collects all the $, the player gets screwed.

No more so than in the US. Did Adrian Gonzalez have any say in where he was traded?

[tomterp]

No more so than in the US. Did Adrian Gonzalez have any say in where he was traded?

Yes, he could veto being traded to the Nippon Ham Fighters.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

who would want to fight with ham?

[blue911]

Yes, he could veto being traded to the Nippon Ham Fighters.

Not if he didn't have a contract. The contract is what prevents that just as in the Japanese Leagues.