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Potomac Cannons · « **Reply #700 on:** December 19, 2009, 07:09:06 pm »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on December 19, 2009, 06:19:19 pm

Again, because there's probably something else afoot with this move. A trade may be iminent with Harris involved or something like that.

Then use Owens in that 5th OF slot. He's better defensively at this point than either Winn or Harris and cheaper too.

blue911 · « **Reply #701 on:** December 19, 2009, 07:14:28 pm »

If the Nats sign Winn be prepared to be told 1,000 times about how he played college hoops with Steve Nash. Ugh.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #702 on:** December 19, 2009, 07:19:02 pm »

Quote from: Potomac Cannons on December 19, 2009, 07:09:06 pm

Then use Owens in that 5th OF slot. He's better defensively at this point than either Winn or Harris and cheaper too.

Perhaps, but he's yet to really show he can contribute consistently at the big league level. It's be great if he's able to set up and take that 5th outfielder spot, but if he doesn't, you need to have someone ready to go. We've got a lot of young, unproven guys waiting in the wings, having that extra depth there is good. I don't think both Harris and Winn will be on the roster, but we'll have a huge battle for that 5th spot.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #703 on:** December 19, 2009, 07:28:09 pm »

that's hilarious. a 5th OFer is not even relevant.

I'd look for Bernadina to make the roster in that role. We have plenty of guys including him, Maxwell, and Harris who will give us all the outfield depth we need.

Potomac Cannons · « **Reply #704 on:** December 19, 2009, 07:36:38 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on December 19, 2009, 07:28:09 pm

that's hilarious. a 5th OFer is not even relevant.

I'd look for Bernadina to make the roster in that role. We have plenty of guys including him, Maxwell, and Harris who will give us all the outfield depth we need.

When I think you can't show any greater lack of basic understanding of sports, you continue to prove me wrong. A 5th OF, especially one who can be a defensive replacement for a poor defender like Hammer, can be an essential part of a team. Add in the idea that Winn, Harris or Owens would all be better at stealing bases than Hammer/Dukes and now you've got pinch runner and defensive replacement taken care of while your better young players get to play every day working on their overall game.

Every spot on the 40 man roster is important. Only someone lacking all comprehension of how sports work would think otherwise.

Are you Jim Bowden?

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #705 on:** December 19, 2009, 08:14:20 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on December 19, 2009, 07:28:09 pm

... who will give us all the outfield depth we need.

I feel like I've heard this before...

Oh, right, we all said the same thing before the year last year. There's no such thing as too much depth.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #706 on:** December 19, 2009, 08:23:56 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on December 19, 2009, 07:28:09 pm

that's hilarious. a 5th OFer is not even relevant.

Then why do you continue to claim Bernadina is?

hammondsnats · « **Reply #707 on:** December 19, 2009, 09:20:52 pm »

bwahahaha bernadina is not good.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #708 on:** December 20, 2009, 11:58:06 am »

Quote from: Potomac Cannons on December 19, 2009, 06:07:03 pm

Calero, Howry, Beimel and Oliver are all relievers I'd like to see the Nats try and acquire.

+1

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #709 on:** December 20, 2009, 12:14:33 pm »

SF - in the NL, teams use 5 and sometimes 6 OFs on a 25 man if one is a swing guy like Harris, Casto, or Orr. I'm with you on Bernardina for that role, though. I see the 4th slot as likely to be Harris (or Winn, if DPM is right). That player will get 400 ABs (+/- 50), while the 5th spot is a guy who gives you a few particular skills your roster does not have in abundance, like speed and defense. That last slot might be a scramble between Bernardina, Owens, and perhaps JMax, who would give you some PH pop. I'm still dumb enough to hope JMax can figure things out in AAA and become a Mike Cameron type (high K, great defense, good pop, OK OBP).

If Winn is brought in, then I think it shows they are more worried about Dukes keeping his job than they are concerned about a defensive complement to Willingham. I agree with DPM that this would make Harris a good trade chip. I don't see a need for both, though.

SF- as an aside, do you do most of your posts by hand held device (text or crackberry)? I've always guessed that some of your shorter and more caustic remarks are due to not being able to type out much to explain your view. That's why I don't get to hyper about the tone and don't snipe back.

Nathan · « **Reply #710 on:** December 20, 2009, 12:23:14 pm »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on December 20, 2009, 12:14:33 pm

SF- as an aside, do you do most of your posts by hand held device (text or crackberry)? I've always guessed that some of your shorter and more caustic remarks are due to not being able to type out much to explain your view. That's why I don't get to hyper about the tone and don't snipe back.

I'm pretty sure he has an iPhone. If he's like me, he makes a good many of his posts from it.

Minty Fresh · « **Reply #711 on:** December 20, 2009, 02:53:47 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on December 19, 2009, 09:20:52 pm

bwahahaha bernadina is not good.

You know how you've said the LAC have been less vocal so far this off-season?

You've been way worse on the ANTI-Bernadina rant than sf has been with his man-crush.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #712 on:** December 20, 2009, 03:35:52 pm »

eh.. Well, hopefully Capps selects us!!!

I can Throw · « **Reply #713 on:** December 20, 2009, 03:53:09 pm »

Quote from: cmdterps44 on December 20, 2009, 03:35:52 pm

eh.. Well, hopefully Capps selects us!!!

I'm not getting warm and fuzzy about Capps picking the Nats. Apparently his wife is in favor of Chicago, with a few ex-Pirates there.

http://chicagocubsonline.com/archives/2009/12/cubsrumors12209_1.php#more

a bit down the page.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #714 on:** December 20, 2009, 05:52:44 pm »

While I've been on the Capps over MacDougal bandwagon, there are a couple of things that give me pause. One is HR/9. Capps has been almost 1 HR/9 more than MacDougal 3 out of the past 5 years. I also worry about a fly ball pitcher. While Mac is no longer a big K guy, he is an extreme groundball pitcher, and if he's not giving up HRs, it takes multiple grounders going through to score the guys he walks. Finally, there are the persistent stories about Capps dealing with arm injuries. I'd still bite the bullet and try to sign him, but it is less clear cut than I thought.

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #715 on:** December 20, 2009, 06:35:02 pm »

this seems like he's choosing between arkansas state and western kentucky for his recruitment (the cubs can be notre dame)

houston-nat · « **Reply #716 on:** December 21, 2009, 12:28:49 am »

Matt Capps seemed to be pretty Nats-happy when he spoke to the Washington press, and Cubs-happy when he spoke to theirs. Hopefully he chooses the guaranteed closer job over the guaranteed setup/7th inning job.

I'd also very much like to get Kiko Calero. I yammered on last offseason about how we needed him, and we still do.

The Chief · « **Reply #717 on:** December 21, 2009, 03:24:29 pm »

Marquis discussion split/merged - http://www.wnff.net/index.php/topic,16251.0.html

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #718 on:** December 21, 2009, 06:04:38 pm »

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JCrasnick: New in Rumor Central: The Nationals are making a big late push for Matt Capps. http://proxy.espn.go.com/mlb/features/rumors

http://twitter.com/jcrasnick

PANatsFan · « **Reply #719 on:** December 21, 2009, 06:09:33 pm »

Everything I'm seeing leads me to the conclusion BID (Bowden is Dumb) and not LAC. They are getting the players the team needs and paying them fair contracts.

Nathan · « **Reply #720 on:** December 21, 2009, 06:10:03 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on December 21, 2009, 06:04:38 pm

http://twitter.com/jcrasnick

The Nationals are a crappy team therefore they shouldn't be wasting money on better players.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #721 on:** December 21, 2009, 06:27:43 pm »

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/nationals-among-leading-candidates-for-capps.html

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ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick spoke with the agent for pitcher Matt Capps, who said the Washington Nationals, fresh off their signing of Jason Marquis, are a strong contender to land Capps' services.

Crasnick writes, "Agent Paul Kinzer said the Nationals weren't a factor when Capps began considering his options as a free agent. But Washington is now among the leading candidates to sign Capps because of the efforts of general manager Mike Rizzo."

The idea of Capps is a good one for the Nationals, whose record was much worse than the other talent on the field due to a ludicrously bad bullpen. With Capps' strikeout rate right around his career norms, it would be surprising not to see him post an ERA closer to his career mark of 3.61 than his 2009 mark of 5.80.

Of course, even a little improvement from Capps would help- the Nationals posted a bullpen ERA of 5.09 last season.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #722 on:** December 21, 2009, 07:44:39 pm »

Quote from: Buddy Luvsom

I spoke to Nyjer Morgan and Sean Burnett today. They want the Nationals to sign Matt Capps.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #723 on:** December 21, 2009, 10:41:46 pm »

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Nationals center fielder Nyjer Morgan and reliever Sean Burnett made it clear on Monday that they want the club to sign free-agent reliever Matt Capps.

"I love everything about the guy," Morgan said. "That guy is a winner. He has a bulldog mentality. He throws strikes and has been through adversity. He is a friend of mine, too. I have so many good things to say about the guy.

"If he came over to Washington, he would have the greatest opportunities. We are on the rise after getting Ivan Rodriguez. Matt is still young and can pick his brain."

"Capps is a great guy," Burnett said. "He is a competitor and a bulldog. He is going to give everything he has when he goes on the mound. The good thing is, he has a lot of experience closing ballgames at the big league level. That's crucial."

doubler · « **Reply #724 on:** December 22, 2009, 09:12:44 am »

I'll tell you what, if we can sign Capps that finally gives us a credible bullpen...