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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #225 on: August 27, 2024, 10:11:22 pm »
Suddenly, the rotation has gotten very good again.

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The Washington #Nationals continue one of their best starting rotation streaks of the season that now has spanned 8 starts with a 4-4 record in that span facing Colorado, Atlanta and NYY.

DJ Herz  has gone 10 2/3 IP 2 ER, Mitchell Parker 11.0 IP 3 ER, Patrick Corbin 12.0 IP 1 ER, MacKenzie Gore 6.0 IP 1 ER, Jake Irvin 5 1/3 2 ER.

That is 45.0 combined innings of 9 earned run baseball for a 1.80 ERA.

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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #226 on: August 28, 2024, 08:16:57 am »
Suddenly, the rotation has gotten very good again.

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only 1 unearned run over that stretch for the starters. K/9 of 9.40, BB/9 2.80

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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #227 on: September 06, 2024, 09:37:40 am »
The good news is the Nationals have a bunch of young arms who you trust to at least be good back of the rotation arms.

The bad news is aside from Gore the Nationals have a bunch of young arms who you may only be able to trust as back of the rotation arms.

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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #228 on: September 06, 2024, 09:44:05 am »
The good news is the Nationals have a bunch of young arms who you trust to at least be good back of the rotation arms.

The bad news is aside from Gore the Nationals have a bunch of young arms who you may only be able to trust as back of the rotation arms.
Thats fine. Honestly, Irvin and Parker have shown enough to be 3/4. I think both are capable of sub 4 ERAs. Which would make them excellent 4s.

This makes it easier to justify spending big money on a top flight pitcher. If we had had Jake Irvin and Mitchell Parker in 2021, Rizzo doesnt sell at the deadline.

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« Reply #229 on: September 06, 2024, 11:15:26 am »
Thats fine. Honestly, Irvin and Parker have shown enough to be 3/4. I think both are capable of sub 4 ERAs. Which would make them excellent 4s.

This makes it easier to justify spending big money on a top flight pitcher. If we had had Jake Irvin and Mitchell Parker in 2021, Rizzo doesnt sell at the deadline.
I agree with this. I got a bit irrationally confident about our pitching earlier this season, but I still think we have a bunch of solid cost controlled options to build around.

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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #230 on: September 18, 2024, 08:13:33 pm »
Williams starts Friday per Zuck

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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #231 on: September 19, 2024, 02:43:18 pm »
The yougins might be wearing down.

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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #232 on: September 19, 2024, 03:38:59 pm »
The yougins might be wearing down.

Davey mentioned going to 6 man as of Saturday when Trevor Williams comes back.

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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #233 on: September 19, 2024, 06:58:14 pm »
The yougins might be wearing down.
I hope that is it.

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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #234 on: September 21, 2024, 06:41:58 pm »
If everyone makes their starts, it's Irvin tomorrow and for the final game, one game for everyone else. Parker, Herz, Corbin vs the Royals, Williams, Gore, and Irvin for the Phillies.

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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #235 on: September 22, 2024, 01:10:28 pm »
If everyone makes their starts, it's Irvin tomorrow and for the final game, one game for everyone else. Parker, Herz, Corbin vs the Royals, Williams, Gore, and Irvin for the Phillies.

Jebus...we get a Corbin game on Thursday?  Again!  That makes 4 of our 6 time at the Park this year...  :asplode:

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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #236 on: September 22, 2024, 02:37:44 pm »
Jebus...we get a Corbin game on Thursday?  Again!  That makes 4 of our 6 time at the Park this year...  :asplode:
you can give him a proper send-off when he gets pulled.


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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #237 on: September 25, 2024, 09:19:38 pm »
How would we all rate our starters going into next year?

Personally, I'd go Gore, Herz, Irvin, Parker

             

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« Reply #238 on: September 25, 2024, 11:47:55 pm »
How would we all rate our starters going into next year?

Personally, I'd go Gore, Herz, Irvin, Parker

             

Looks more like a group of openers, so what difference does the order really make? They've averaged less than 5 IP per start since the ASB.  Maybe if we bring in some new coaches, oh wait, never mind.

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« Reply #239 on: September 26, 2024, 02:12:52 am »
How would we all rate our starters going into next year?

Personally, I'd go Gore, Herz, Irvin, Parker

             

Personally I think that the whole rotation is cooked.  Gore has had a good final month but was dog crap in the months prior.  Irvin has been awful since the ASB and has been on fraud watch ever since.  Parker is mid.  Herz has really good stuff and next year will be pivotal for him, but might wind up as a good bullpen piece regardless. 

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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #240 on: September 26, 2024, 09:33:10 am »

Good riddance to Corbin...

Even Dan Haren, who got boo'd off the mound at Nats Park multiple times, posted a 10-14 record and a 4.67 ERA in 2013...

I hate that my last game at the Park this year has to be with this 6-13 5.58 loser on the bump...again...


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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #241 on: September 26, 2024, 09:36:06 am »
How would we all rate our starters going into next year?

Personally, I'd go Gore, Herz, Irvin, Parker

             

Gore and then Irvin. The other two are interchangeable.

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« Reply #242 on: September 26, 2024, 10:37:23 am »
How would we all rate our starters going into next year?

Personally, I'd go Gore, Herz, Irvin, Parker
Gore
Irvn
FA/Trade Starter
Parker/Herz
FA inning sponge

I'd be thrilled if Parker and Herz both forced their way into the rotation, but I think one of them starts the season in Rochester. And that isn't a particularly bad thing. I expect both of them in the rotation next year at some point.

Tyler Stuart had a rough start in Rochester, but I am really interested to see him next year in Rochester. Would be great if he or Brad Lord played well enough to force the Nationals hand.

Good news is we have enough back of the rotation depth there is no reason to try to rush Sykora, Lara, Susana, or some of those other interesting arms.

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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #243 on: September 26, 2024, 12:26:38 pm »
Corbin is kind of the pitcher with the red Swingline stapler.  I guess he also got paid, but nevertheless he captures the Office Space zeitgeist

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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #244 on: September 26, 2024, 12:41:50 pm »
Corbin is kind of the pitcher with the red Swingline stapler.  I guess he also got paid, but nevertheless he captures the Office Space zeitgeist

I don't see him burning down Nats Park on his way out, but you never know.

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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #245 on: September 26, 2024, 10:47:16 pm »
Herz will be an elite pitcher within two years

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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #246 on: September 27, 2024, 11:30:59 am »
Herz will be an elite pitcher within two years
suppress the walks, develop a 3rd pitch. Kind of like what Corbin went through in AZ.

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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #247 on: September 27, 2024, 01:43:07 pm »
suppress the walks, develop a 3rd pitch. Kind of like what Corbin went through in AZ.
did you really have to compare him to Corbin???

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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #248 on: September 27, 2024, 03:04:13 pm »
did you really have to compare him to Corbin???
7 years ago, that's a complement

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Re: The Rotation: 2024
« Reply #249 on: September 28, 2024, 12:29:19 pm »
Via talknats: Trevor Williams finishes with the lowest starter era in Nats history (minimum 10 starts)