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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #150 on: Yesterday at 11:44:08 am »
Seems like Davey has moved Ferrer into Poche's lefty specialist spot, but that's not sustainable.  Going to need Irvin and Parker to work some of their 7 inning magic in this Mets series.

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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #151 on: Yesterday at 12:10:45 pm »
Seems like Davey has moved Ferrer into Poche's lefty specialist spot, but that's not sustainable.  Going to need Irvin and Parker to work some of their 7 inning magic in this Mets series.
With Lopez back, I think he's more comfortable using Ferrer before the 8th in "stopper / fireman" situations. I think it is less lefty / righty match ups with Ferrer and more that there are 2 set up guys and Davey's comfortable putting either in first.

We can hope Rutledge or Henry graduate to the back end in Bullpen A. 

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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #152 on: Yesterday at 12:16:18 pm »

We can hope Rutledge or Henry graduate to the back end in Bullpen A. 

Should already be there

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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #153 on: Yesterday at 12:47:50 pm »
Should already be there
Henry appears to be the clear #2 right now behind Finnegan, at least against RHBs

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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #154 on: Yesterday at 01:15:57 pm »
Henry appears to be the clear #2 right now behind Finnegan, at least against RHBs
not if they're using him for 2 innings and behind. Ask in a week

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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #155 on: Yesterday at 06:21:44 pm »
Looks like Finnegan, plus Ferrer / Henry / Rutledge. Sims and Poche are last out of the bullpen. Lopez is not fully trusted, and Salazar will be next to go when the Nats can replace Sims and Poche.

I don't trust Lopez, but maybe Davey does.

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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #156 on: Yesterday at 09:41:56 pm »
Ferrer isn't good

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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #157 on: Yesterday at 09:44:45 pm »
I think we've found our bullpen Victory Vulture in Lopez. Picks up two wins in a row after a blown save (his Wednesday, Finny today).

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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #158 on: Yesterday at 09:50:01 pm »
Ferrer isn't good
but we want him to be good. I'll take it if he's good 3 out of 4 times.

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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #159 on: Yesterday at 10:00:00 pm »
Ferrer isn't good

He's solid.  Just need to keep Hickey away from him.   Maybe make a Ferrer scarecrow Hickey can talk to during mound visits.

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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #160 on: Yesterday at 10:09:45 pm »
Ferrer isn't good
14 appearances, only 3 clean (2 outs, 1 out, and 3 outs).  Runs in 5 out of the 14 appearances.

In fairness, tonight was his 3rd game in a row.

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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #161 on: Today at 12:54:40 am »
14 appearances, only 3 clean (2 outs, 1 out, and 3 outs).  Runs in 5 out of the 14 appearances.

In fairness, tonight was his 3rd game in a row.

He’s thrown strikes throughout his pro career, and keeps his cool in tough situations.  I like Ferrer.  No one should blame him for his pitching coach or manager.  He’s not even arb eligible yet, and needs to be part of the pen for the next few years at least.

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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #162 on: Today at 06:46:54 am »
EMERGENCY EMERGENCY

There is nothing more demoralizing for a team than to have the bullpen blow leads game after game.  The last time this happened was 2015, which was a miserable year to be a Nats fan.  Now we're reliving the nightmare 10 years later.  The 2025 Nats have a reasonable chance of making the postseason ONLY if upper management acquires a couple more decent bullpen arms NOW. 

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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #163 on: Today at 11:57:20 am »
He’s thrown strikes throughout his pro career, and keeps his cool in tough situations.  I like Ferrer.  No one should blame him for his pitching coach or manager.  He’s not even arb eligible yet, and needs to be part of the pen for the next few years at least.
I completely agree with you. I like him a lot. I just want his use optimized for his development. I don't particularly mind his performance when viewed as a learning curve. In a good bullpen, he'd be #4 or #5 rather than the primary set up guy and fireman.

EMERGENCY EMERGENCY

There is nothing more demoralizing for a team than to have the bullpen blow leads game after game.  The last time this happened was 2015, which was a miserable year to be a Nats fan.  Now we're reliving the nightmare 10 years later.  The 2025 Nats have a reasonable chance of making the postseason ONLY if upper management acquires a couple more decent bullpen arms NOW. 

hold on, help is coming. Keep Henry healthy and limit him to 1 inning for now. His stuff can play. Rutledge can be a multi-inning keep it close when behind guy that you need. So long as the starters are pitching like  the past 10 games, that helps cover things.

I'm OK with Lopez; even the blown hold Wednesday wasn't a big bad - got 2 outs when he came in with the bases loaded; next inning the leadoff triple was the big damage. Almost all of the damage on the year was in 2 outings on 4/13 & 16 against Miami and pittsburgh - 7 runs in 1.2 IP with 5 H, 2 BB, and 1 HR. 5 no hit no walk appearances out of his 11. He can be in the mix of useful guys.

To my eye, we have 3-5 or useful pieces right now: Finnegan, Lopez, Henry, Rutledge, and Ferrer, with the later two maybe better in low to medium leverage for a while.

As soon as Brzykcy is ready, he's an easy swap for Salazar if he's still ineffective. Sims and Poche just need to be spotted in carefully, preferably behind by 4 runs or so, to see if they can figure something out.

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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #164 on: Today at 12:31:51 pm »
Starter ERA now 3.41, 5th best in MLB

With a 6.69 ERA, bullpen has opened up a nearly 1.5 run lead for last over #29 Phillies

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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #165 on: Today at 12:49:34 pm »
Starter ERA now 3.41, 5th best in MLB

With a 6.69 ERA, bullpen has opened up a nearly 1.5 run lead for last over #29 Phillies
yes. Even some of the guys I said positive things about have horrible ERAs (Lopez, Ferrer)

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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #166 on: Today at 01:04:26 pm »
https://districtondeck.com/2-moves-the-nationals-can-make-immediately-to-overhaul-struggling-bullpen-01jsjyktrgdw

Bennett Lehmann suggests Konnor Pilkington for Poche soon.

His ideal moves would be Soroka for Sims pushing Lord to the bullpen (actually, his ideal would be Williams, not Lord), release Sims, add Pilkington to fill the roster slot, then see if you can dfa Poche and get him to take a minor league assignment (which he can reject).

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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #167 on: Today at 01:06:14 pm »
https://districtondeck.com/2-moves-the-nationals-can-make-immediately-to-overhaul-struggling-bullpen-01jsjyktrgdw

Bennett Lehmann suggests Konnor Pilkington for Poche soon.

His ideal moves would be Soroka for Sims pushing Lord to the bullpen (actually, his ideal would be Williams, not Lord), release Sims, add Pilkington to fill the roster slot, then see if you can dfa Poche and get him to take a minor league assignment (which he can reject).
Pilkington has been very good at Rochester.

Sure would be nice to get an update on Law.

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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #168 on: Today at 01:23:56 pm »
EMERGENCY EMERGENCY

There is nothing more demoralizing for a team than to have the bullpen blow leads game after game.  The last time this happened was 2015, which was a miserable year to be a Nats fan.  Now we're reliving the nightmare 10 years later.  The 2025 Nats have a reasonable chance of making the postseason ONLY if upper management acquires a couple more decent bullpen arms NOW. 

You're not wrong, I'm just thrilled that I can agree with the statement we have a chance at the postseason this year.

I'm happy with the performances of Finnegan, Ferrer, and Henry. That is a nice core to build from. I would not be opposed to a trade deadline acquisition though haha.

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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #169 on: Today at 01:34:48 pm »
Pilkington has been very good at Rochester.

Sure would be nice to get an update on Law.
I mean, Pilkington was one of those throw stuff at a wall and see what sticks signings. Might as well give him a shot.

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Re: Bullpen in 2025: duck and cover
« Reply #170 on: Today at 03:45:08 pm »
I mean, Pilkington was one of those throw stuff at a wall and see what sticks signings. Might as well give him a shot.

He had a rough outing today.  Throws a lot of ball fours, but outside of the usual slow pace of South Capitol Street decision making, no reason for Poche to still be on the team.