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Re: 2024 Transactions / Roster Moves
« Reply #350 on: September 01, 2024, 01:17:40 pm »
Dusty is in dc.

Still has more seasons making the playoffs with the Nats than Davey.  Happy for Darren.

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« Reply #351 on: September 01, 2024, 02:20:31 pm »
Dusty is in dc.

He should never have been forced to leave...

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« Reply #352 on: September 01, 2024, 02:22:50 pm »
He should never have been forced to leave...

He should have never been hired in the first place.

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« Reply #353 on: September 01, 2024, 03:41:33 pm »
He should never have been forced to leave...
He should have never been hired in the first place.
both of these can be true

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« Reply #354 on: September 01, 2024, 05:21:33 pm »
He should never have been forced to leave...

Yes, but was too $$$ for the Lerner manager budget, which is about the same as the manager budget for the McD's on South Capitol St

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« Reply #355 on: September 01, 2024, 05:30:36 pm »
both of these can be true
No, they can't. Dusty was the worst possible choice for managing a Mike Rizzo built team. There is a reason that the Astros were the only team that could get him over the hump. They literally built a Dusty-proof pen.

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« Reply #356 on: September 01, 2024, 06:02:36 pm »
Ribalta optioned

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« Reply #359 on: September 01, 2024, 10:41:42 pm »
I was fine with Dusty Baker. Wanted him retained. Next guy won a World Series. Dusty then did his thing Houston. All’s well that ends well.

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« Reply #360 on: September 02, 2024, 09:59:53 am »
Derek Law reinstated from the IL.

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« Reply #361 on: September 06, 2024, 03:40:14 pm »
Nats claim RHP Michael Rucker from the Phillies and dfa blankenhorn to clear a 40-man slot. Rucker had good stats for Philly but something like a .500 BaBiP

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« Reply #362 on: September 15, 2024, 08:21:11 pm »
D-Backs DFA'd Floro.

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« Reply #363 on: September 15, 2024, 08:46:59 pm »
D-Backs DFA'd Floro.

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Wow, didn't see that coming. Bring him back.

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« Reply #364 on: September 15, 2024, 09:04:33 pm »

Wow, didn't see that coming. Bring him back.

And Winker BA .277

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« Reply #365 on: September 15, 2024, 11:10:12 pm »
D-Backs DFA'd Floro.

Rizzo Master Class

Yes, they're 17 games over and likely headed to the playoffs, the Nats were one of the first to be eliminated. 

The D-backs refused to the play the contract with Jordan Montgomery, and sent him to the 'pen.  DFA'd Mad Bum and ended up in the World Series.  Meanwhile, this org plays Keibert, Corbin, and Gallo because of their contracts.  The D-backs know when to cut ties or demote a bad player, which is what they did with Floro, meanwhile Mini Me refuses to let such a thing happen here, and we kept a guy in the rotation with a 5.50 ERA.  Rizzo can't admit a mistake, the D-backs do that all the time, and look who wins more.  They're going to the playoffs this season after making the WS last year, and we're sitting here hoping that the losing season streak doesn't make it to 7.   Give me a break.

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« Reply #366 on: September 16, 2024, 08:14:33 am »
Yes, they're 17 games over and likely headed to the playoffs, the Nats were one of the first to be eliminated. 

The D-backs refused to the play the contract with Jordan Montgomery, and sent him to the 'pen.  DFA'd Mad Bum and ended up in the World Series.  Meanwhile, this org plays Keibert, Corbin, and Gallo because of their contracts.  The D-backs know when to cut ties or demote a bad player, which is what they did with Floro, meanwhile Mini Me refuses to let such a thing happen here, and we kept a guy in the rotation with a 5.50 ERA.  Rizzo can't admit a mistake, the D-backs do that all the time, and look who wins more.  They're going to the playoffs this season after making the WS last year, and we're sitting here hoping that the losing season streak doesn't make it to 7.   Give me a break.

Lol you really can't ever acknowledge a win, however minor it might be.

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« Reply #367 on: September 16, 2024, 10:12:14 am »
D-Backs DFA'd Floro.

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Sign Floro back!

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« Reply #368 on: September 16, 2024, 12:32:22 pm »
Lol you really can't ever acknowledge a win, however minor it might be.

I'd rather be the D-backs going to the playoffs 2nd year in a row, and who rebuilt with just 3 losing seasons, than the Nats with a 5th straight losing season, wouldn't you?

There's a tendency here to think individual trades are great events.  But the reality is they are often battles won in a losing war.  Moreover, the D-backs don't get invested in players due to contract or trade the way the Nats do, which played a key role in them getting to the WS last year.  The Mad Bum DFA made that possible, and that was a move Rizzo and the Nats would never, ever make.  I'd love to trade their culture for ours, but that unfortunately isn't going to happen, especially with our low expectations core fanbase.  Calling one trade in a disastrous season a "masterclass" reflects this.


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« Reply #369 on: September 16, 2024, 02:06:23 pm »
I'd rather be the D-backs going to the playoffs 2nd year in a row, and who rebuilt with just 3 losing seasons, than the Nats with a 5th straight losing season, wouldn't you?

There's a tendency here to think individual trades are great events.  But the reality is they are often battles won in a losing war.  Moreover, the D-backs don't get invested in players due to contract or trade the way the Nats do, which played a key role in them getting to the WS last year.  The Mad Bum DFA made that possible, and that was a move Rizzo and the Nats would never, ever make.  I'd love to trade their culture for ours, but that unfortunately isn't going to happen, especially with our low expectations core fanbase.  Calling one trade in a disastrous season a "masterclass" reflects this.

What's the bar for cheering for good things happening? Should fans also not have been excited for Wood's two homer game? I mean it was cool to see but the organizational culture still sucks, right?

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« Reply #370 on: September 16, 2024, 07:28:22 pm »
The Nats have only been around since 2005 and already have as many world championships as the Padres and DBacks combined.  The latter two are certainly competitive now but it's hard to see either as a real world championship contender.  And I know the DBacks came close last year and the Padres made the NLCS the year before.  It's hard to win the trophy.  Both will be in the playoffs but it's hard seeing them pull that magic again.  The Padres must have a heck of a farm system because they keep trading multiple guys away and still are up there in the ratings. 

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« Reply #371 on: September 16, 2024, 07:41:57 pm »
The Nats have only been around since 2005 and already have as many world championships as the Padres and DBacks combined.  The latter two are certainly competitive now but it's hard to see either as a real world championship contender.  And I know the DBacks came close last year and the Padres made the NLCS the year before.  It's hard to win the trophy.  Both will be in the playoffs but it's hard seeing them pull that magic again.  The Padres must have a heck of a farm system because they keep trading multiple guys away and still are up there in the ratings. 
Most fans in baseball would swap places with the Nats in a heartbeat.

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« Reply #372 on: September 16, 2024, 08:05:42 pm »
Yes, they're 17 games over and likely headed to the playoffs, the Nats were one of the first to be eliminated. 

The D-backs refused to the play the contract with Jordan Montgomery, and sent him to the 'pen.  DFA'd Mad Bum and ended up in the World Series.  Meanwhile, this org plays Keibert, Corbin, and Gallo because of their contracts.  The D-backs know when to cut ties or demote a bad player, which is what they did with Floro, meanwhile Mini Me refuses to let such a thing happen here, and we kept a guy in the rotation with a 5.50 ERA.  Rizzo can't admit a mistake, the D-backs do that all the time, and look who wins more.  They're going to the playoffs this season after making the WS last year, and we're sitting here hoping that the losing season streak doesn't make it to 7.   Give me a break.
one trick pony. 

They DFA'd Bumgarner because of clubhouse issues. They had three starters in that rotation with ERAs over 5, one of them with an ERA over 7. Also, the 2024 Nats aren't where the 2023 D-Backs were. They are where the 2022 D-Backs were. You know, the team that kept playing Bumgarner, despite the fact that he was washed. Yep, that team that has such amazing culture (according to you) just kept trotting MadBum for 30 starts because they signed him to a big contract. And it wasn't just that he suddenly became bad in 2023. He had a 6.50 ERA in the second half of 2022. He became a fly ball pitcher in a park that is a hitter friendly park.  If the D-backs truly knew when to cut ties, they would have done it in the offseason.

On top of the Mad Bum debacle, they are playing the bad contracts now. Oh sure, they sent Montgomery to the pen ... where he has been terrible. Why are they keeping him? Could it be because they owe him a freak ton of money and they need to get SOMETHING out of him?

He's not the only one. Eduardo Rodriguez is making starts for this team. The one they signed to a 4 year, 80 million dollar contract. Well he's starting because he deserves it, right? I should just ignore that 5.50 ERA? Because they couldn't possibly be pitching him because of that contract, right?

Acuna is injured for the Braves, Carroll is struggling, and Tatis has never matched his rookie OPS, never mind missing a whole season due to a non-baseball injury and a PED violation.  Paying young players like that can make them too comfortable.  The Nats also benefitted from Rendon playing out of his mind during his walk year.

Stras was a big exception for a Boras client and he still ended up opting out of that contract. 


So, following your logic, Carroll should have been sent down, if not cut. Carroll had a .635 OPS in the first half. Just so we're clear, that's about 30 points better than Joey Gallo, but they're also on the hook to pay Carroll 111 million dollars (instead of the 5 the Nats owe Gallo). Carroll sucked and was costing his team games in the first half. So, a team with the culture like the D-Backs sent him down or cut him, right? They know when to cut ties or demote a bad player (and I think we can agree, if Jacob Young is out hitting you, you're not a good hitter)

Nope. They let Carroll work through and have been rewarded with a .935 OPS in the second half.


In 2023, the D-Backs kept Jake McCarthy and Alex Thomas on the team in 2023, despite poor performance. They kept Zach Davies until the end of the year. Scott McGough stayed in their pen the whole year, despite having an ERA of almost 5 out of the pen. So, no, the D-Backs don't know when to cut ties or demote bad players. They don't have some magical culture that knows when to let players go.

The 2019 Washington Nationals released Trevor Rosenthal and Kyle Barraclough and ended up winning the World Series. So I guess Rizzo does actually know when to cut ties with a bad player and get good results.

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« Reply #373 on: September 17, 2024, 10:01:20 am »
What's the bar for cheering for good things happening? Should fans also not have been excited for Wood's two homer game? I mean it was cool to see but the organizational culture still sucks, right?
"James Wood hit two runs, but you know who wouldn't be excited about that? Brewers fans. They don't have threads following Jackson Chourio having a big game. That's because Matt Arnold is all about winning. He took over in 2022 and made a half dozen trades instead of not admitting mistakes, like Rizzo. The Brewers have a culture of winning, not a culture of losing, and Rizzo just distracts people from his own failures by pointing at James Wood. The Brewers fans are enjoying their fourth straight winning seasons while we just post about James Wood hitting home runs in a lost season."

Full disclosure, IanRubbish did recently make an appearance in the Sunshine Squad thread to hail James Wood.

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« Reply #374 on: September 17, 2024, 10:03:41 am »
"James Wood hit two runs, but you know who wouldn't be excited about that? Brewers fans. They don't have threads following Jackson Chourio having a big game. That's because Matt Arnold is all about winning. He took over in 2022 and made a half dozen trades instead of not admitting mistakes, like Rizzo. The Brewers have  culture of winning, not a culture of losing, and Rizzo just distracts people from his own failures by pointing at James Wood. The Brewers fans are enjoying their fourth straight losing seasons while we just post about James Wood hitting home runs in a lost season."

Full disclosure, IanRubbish did recently make an appearance in the Sunshine Squad thread to hail James Wood.
:lmao:

POTY candidate right there