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Re: 2024 Transactions / Roster Moves
« Reply #300 on: August 13, 2024, 04:47:38 pm »
Lasorsa should have been the one called up.  Blankenhorn also needs to DFAed
Blankenhorn has a week left assuming Crews gets the call next Tuesday.

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« Reply #301 on: August 13, 2024, 05:02:15 pm »
Lasorsa should have been the one called up.  Blankenhorn also needs to DFAed
Blankenhorn when Crews comes up

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« Reply #302 on: August 13, 2024, 05:29:30 pm »
Blankenhorn when Crews comes up
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Re: 2024 Transactions / Roster Moves
« Reply #303 on: August 13, 2024, 05:35:10 pm »
For those of you who don't want to click through:
Up: Chaparro, Ribalta
DFA'd: Ramirez, Weems

Haven't seen yet if Ramirez and Weems are being released or not.

With the DFA process, the player is immediately removed from the 40 man roster. The team has something like 10 days to put the guy through waivers or to deal him. After that, the player can be outrighted to the minors. If the player has been in the majors in enough seasons, then he can refuse assignment to the minors and become a free agent. My guess is that Weems cannot refuse the outright, without checking his past service (dunno how many times he was up and down before the nats picked him up). Ramirez, I'm guessing, might actually be tradeable since he's hit lefties well. IF not, then I think he may have enough time in to become a free agent.

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« Reply #304 on: August 13, 2024, 05:47:46 pm »
With the DFA process, the player is immediately removed from the 40 man roster. The team has something like 10 days to put the guy through waivers or to deal him. After that, the player can be outrighted to the minors. If the player has been in the majors in enough seasons, then he can refuse assignment to the minors and become a free agent. My guess is that Weems cannot refuse the outright, without checking his past service (dunno how many times he was up and down before the nats picked him up). Ramirez, I'm guessing, might actually be tradeable since he's hit lefties well. IF not, then I think he may have enough time in to become a free agent.

Weems had 2.055 at the opening of this season and has been on the MLB roster the whole season.  That should get him well past 2.172 = 3, so he should be able to reject.

Ramirez had 4.124 at the start of the season, so he's well past being outrighted without his consent. But I don't see the path to trading him.  He'd be arb eligible if he were on the 40, but without being on the 40 he could just become a minor league free agent.  I don't see why this DFA wouldn't result in him choosing free agency now. 

He can either (1) go to Rochester and wait for an opportunity to get back to DC somehow, knowing that he's behind anyone they want for a September callup from the 40 man; (2) elect FA, sit on his ass and collect his entire salary; (3) elect FA and possibly sign with someone else, for whom he'd be eligible for the playoff roster and then salary arbitration in the winter, although realistically he'd probably be non-tendered.  One of those options seems much worse than the others.

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Re: 2024 Transactions / Roster Moves
« Reply #305 on: August 13, 2024, 06:54:15 pm »
Thanks JCA and Elvir, i've never been able to fully grasp a DFA vs outright release vs release waivers. :)

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« Reply #306 on: August 14, 2024, 09:44:35 pm »
Per TalkNats, the Nats have requested unconditional release wavers for Harold Ramirez. That was quick.

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« Reply #307 on: August 14, 2024, 09:56:18 pm »
Per TalkNats, the Nats have requested unconditional release wavers for Harold Ramirez. That was quick.

Pretty sure he had the right to reject any assignment, plus requesting release waivers early like this gives him more time to get picked up by another team at league minimum and still qualify for their playoff roster. It's kind of a "nice gesture" for the player.

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« Reply #308 on: August 15, 2024, 09:22:47 am »
Per TalkNats, the Nats have requested unconditional release wavers for Harold Ramirez. That was quick.

Turns out that "short-side platoon DH" isn't quite the niche that some may have hoped.

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« Reply #309 on: August 15, 2024, 11:45:16 am »
Turns out that "short-side platoon DH" isn't quite the niche that some may have hoped.
he hit better here than in Tampa, so Rizzo and Martinez did him a solid for a while.

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« Reply #310 on: August 15, 2024, 11:45:46 pm »
La Sorsa getting called up per Golden.

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« Reply #311 on: August 16, 2024, 01:25:48 am »
he hit better here than in Tampa, so Rizzo and Martinez did him a solid for a while.

Ramirez is a good guy, has a child with some medical issues, so it's good that they tried to help him.  That said, he wasn't part of any return to contending, but then again neither is most of what they do.

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« Reply #312 on: August 16, 2024, 08:05:25 am »
Ramirez is a good guy, has a child with some medical issues, so it's good that they tried to help him.  That said, he wasn't part of any return to contending, but then again neither is most of what they do.
Only downside to his signing I think was that he maybe blocked Yepez a bit, who I think is more interesting (younger, some decent power history, more team control). Ramirez outperformed Meneses, for sure. Didn't end up being needed when Winker gor going before the trade, but that was not aa sure thing when HR came in. Rizzo seems to bet on high level guys bouncing back a bit more than guys who have MLB talent that have been blocked, at least prior to the trade deadline. Kind of explains why Call, Yepez, Blankenhorn and some of the relievers had to sit behind Senzel, Meneses, Gallo, HRam, Rosario . . .

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« Reply #313 on: August 16, 2024, 04:34:31 pm »
Per talknats, Weems cleared waivers and is heading to Rochester

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« Reply #314 on: August 16, 2024, 07:08:06 pm »
La Sorsa getting called up per Golden.

And did he get lost on his way here and who does he replace if not Ribalta?

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« Reply #315 on: August 16, 2024, 11:31:42 pm »
Per talknats, Weems cleared waivers and is heading to Rochester

Which is great.  Weems was an amazing MR guy for almost 3 years

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« Reply #316 on: August 17, 2024, 12:20:00 pm »
TBH, I don't think there will be a call up on 8/20 at this point unless you start hearing some hype for it coming from MASN or the Nats. That was their approach for Wood. I don't think they waste an opportunity to sell more tickets for Crews's or House's call up.

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« Reply #317 on: August 17, 2024, 12:53:22 pm »
TBH, I don't think there will be a call up on 8/20 at this point unless you start hearing some hype for it coming from MASN or the Nats. That was their approach for Wood. I don't think they waste an opportunity to sell more tickets for Crews's or House's call up.
They will announce it Sunday, either late in the game or post-game.  Off day Monday allows them to promote if for 48 hours.

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« Reply #318 on: August 17, 2024, 03:37:42 pm »
https://x.com/bobby_blanco/status/1824895655837565340?s=46&t=_Z-p2f0bZKf6ZfuOisokbg
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Nats have made the following roster moves:

-Joe La Sorsa (contract selected)
-Joan Adon (recalled from Triple-A Rochester)
-Robert Garcia (bereavement list)
-Derek Law (15-day injured list with right elbow flexor strain)

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« Reply #319 on: August 17, 2024, 03:56:18 pm »
This might be the worst bullpen in baseball now

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« Reply #320 on: August 17, 2024, 04:07:13 pm »
Elbow Flexor Strain. Was that the same injury that both Gray and Williams had? Probably the end of Law's year.

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Re: 2024 Transactions / Roster Moves
« Reply #321 on: August 17, 2024, 04:11:36 pm »
Elbow Flexor Strain. Was that the same injury that both Gray and Williams had? Probably the end of Law's year.
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Re: 2024 Transactions / Roster Moves
« Reply #322 on: August 17, 2024, 05:54:19 pm »
Didn't they throw Law yesterday? Did anyone notice anything?

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« Reply #323 on: August 17, 2024, 05:55:50 pm »
By the way, Law is under team control next year. I wonder if they release/ nontender him now.

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« Reply #324 on: August 17, 2024, 06:04:45 pm »
By the way, Law is under team control next year. I wonder if they release/ nontender him now.

If he needs surgery, then yup. If not, maybe they retain him.

Any news about Trevor Williams? I'm hoping he signs a one year deal with the Nats and gets flipped at the deadline. Or, what might be more likely, is that he has a rehab setback and also needs surgery, in which, what a waste of a contract.