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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #125 on: May 02, 2023, 12:56:36 pm »
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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #126 on: May 02, 2023, 02:01:13 pm »
Hassell's rehab assignment is over and he is moving to AA where he belongs.

Seemed to look every bit the low-Aplayer when I saw him recently. Could be the injury, age, or who knows.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #127 on: May 02, 2023, 02:17:03 pm »
Seemed to look every bit the low-Aplayer when I saw him recently. Could be the injury, age, or who knows.
I think with him you have to assume it was basically spring training.  No reason to have his real start below Double A. On the other hand some folks saying he will be up this year or even next seem quite a bit over optimistic.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #128 on: May 02, 2023, 02:20:19 pm »
I think with him you have to assume it was basically spring training.  No reason to have his real start below Double A. On the other hand some folks saying he will be up this year or even next seem quite a bit over optimistic.

If he's not next year something probably went wrong.


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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #130 on: May 03, 2023, 01:17:46 pm »
2 for 2 now. 

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #131 on: May 03, 2023, 02:20:21 pm »
Decent contact but grounded into a DP last at bat. 2 for 4. 

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #132 on: May 04, 2023, 08:17:17 am »
If he's not next year something probably went wrong.

Really?  He's 21.  College players that age are typically drafted and get a short season at A or A+.  He's already in AA.  He's around a year ahead of the pacing you'd expect even for a first round college draftee, and nobody expects those guys to be in the majors the season after they're drafted.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #133 on: May 04, 2023, 08:44:23 am »
Part of it also were the projections for ETA to the majors on some of the prospect sites like MLB.com, as well as the ridiculous numbers he put up before the trade. I kind of like the dose of realism Longenhagen put on him when he dropped him to 112 on his list. Probably an over-reaction to a down period after the trade, as well as the hamate, but it pushed back a lot on the expectation of him taking over center in August.

Besides, I don't think the Nats will be pushing their top hitter out of center this year despite statcast not liking his defense :lmao:

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #134 on: May 04, 2023, 01:32:31 pm »
I could see Hassell replacing Call at some point this year.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #135 on: May 04, 2023, 02:41:45 pm »
I could see Hassell replacing Call at some point this year.
left field, maybe.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #136 on: May 04, 2023, 03:05:41 pm »
don't stick a fork in Call just yet.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #137 on: May 04, 2023, 03:06:26 pm »
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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #138 on: May 04, 2023, 04:38:38 pm »
Part of it also were the projections for ETA to the majors on some of the prospect sites like MLB.com, as well as the ridiculous numbers he put up before the trade. I kind of like the dose of realism Longenhagen put on him when he dropped him to 112 on his list. Probably an over-reaction to a down period after the trade, as well as the hamate, but it pushed back a lot on the expectation of him taking over center in August.

Besides, I don't think the Nats will be pushing their top hitter out of center this year despite statcast not liking his defense :lmao:

Those projections are always ridiculous.

And every time his production comes up, I compare him to a dude I saw in A+ last year early in the season who is the same draft class, same handedness, same position and body type, HS from the same state, and a year younger.  Here is that dude's present AA line this season: 102 PA, .308/.471/.487, 18/23 K/BB, playing CF. 

MLB.com still has him ranked behind Hassell.  Now I get that it's still sitting on a pre-season ranking, but I've seen both the players.  It's not even close. Other dude (Evan Carter) is the example of a maybe-2023 if Texas is in contention kind of player. 

Hassell is a normal, good prospect.  But he needs time.  He is not Evan Carter.  He is not some Elly De La Cruz level freak show.  He just needs to play baseball.  And yes, there is a chance that it goes to crap and he's Nate Schierholtz.  That's what prospects do sometimes. 

But now ain't the time for hand-wringing.  Sometimes  :old: I long for the era when they used to send dudes like this off into the ether to places with silly names like Chattanooga and silly fans like me would buy cheap tickets and watch them freak up for a couple years while the talent shined enough to wait for the freakups to smooth out.

Now everybody's looking at some 19-year-old's strikeout ratio in low-A and crap like that.  Unless it's massively one way or the other, everybody should chill.  That's what coaching is for, at least if you're not the Nationals.

Yeah, I need a drink too after going way past two sentences.


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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #140 on: May 05, 2023, 11:42:49 pm »
Kid can hit


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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #142 on: May 06, 2023, 07:56:36 am »
If the relay throw had been on target, he's out

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #143 on: May 09, 2023, 06:33:20 pm »
Throws a runner out at third trying to advance on a fly ball. WTG.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #144 on: May 11, 2023, 02:47:06 pm »
1-4 today but with three Ks. 

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #145 on: May 12, 2023, 11:13:48 pm »
3-4, double tonight

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #146 on: May 13, 2023, 12:33:42 pm »
a few observations just off his stats this year.

first, he's over 1000 PAs in the minors. while all but 100 are in  A / A+, 1000+ is a significant number. I think it's the number looked to for development.

second, he's got more walks than Ks this year. A lot of that was during rehab at fredericksburg and the good sense of the strike zone talked about in Kevrock's post right after the trade (excerpting BA). https://www.wnff.net/index.php?topic=40247.0;msg=2258623

there shouldn't be much expectations for power this year due to his hamate, but his ISO this year (.152) is better than last year overall and near what he was putting up in the SD system (.168) at lower levels.

it's just 33 PAs in 2023  at Harrisburg. If he hits well for 2 more months, stays on the field, a bump up to AAA in late july would give him 2 months at that level and about 600 PAs in the upper minors. At that point, it is realistic for him to have a shot at breaking camp next year with the team or being an early call up.


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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #147 on: May 13, 2023, 12:58:35 pm »
Looks like he has recovered fine from the injuries. 

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Robert Hassell III, OF
« Reply #148 on: May 13, 2023, 05:51:28 pm »
I think it was important to remember that back when Zimmerman injured his hamate and took a long time to get his power stroke back: a. he was still a fairly inconsistent hitter at that point, prone to half-seasons of mediocre production (it wasn't 'til '09 that he fully matured as a major league hitter), and b. the Nats' Dr. Nick-like medical staff left a lot to be desired around that time.

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