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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #150: June 06, 2023, 03:30:29 PM »
MLB is more accepting of guys who swing and miss a lot but produce power. And/or defense. So you might see more guys make it who are striking out lots in the lower minors. Not saying Green will make it but the approach to hitting has changed from the past.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #151: June 06, 2023, 09:45:00 PM »
MLB is more accepting of guys who swing and miss a lot but produce power. And/or defense. So you might see more guys make it who are striking out lots in the lower minors. Not saying Green will make it but the approach to hitting has changed from the past.
Except MLB just changed the rules to put emphasis on contact over power.

Bo Jackson had his K rate down below 30% in 1990. Heck, even in the minors, he had a sub 40% K-rate

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #152: June 07, 2023, 05:53:55 AM »
Just one K in four at bats last night.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #153: June 07, 2023, 08:12:58 AM »
he's young.  Was gonna say he's Green, but that's obvious.  Hopefully the kid is coachable and can adjust.  He's viable if he can get his K% under 30%.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #154: June 07, 2023, 12:38:08 PM »
https://twitter.com/talknats/status/1666473641146474496?s=46&t=VxK4vP11aMUU5dFhz5Ltrg

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Baseball America has removed Elijah Green and Cade Cavalli from their Top-100 prospects. No Brady House on there which is mind-boggling. Wood moves up and Hassell moves way back.

- №5 James Wood

- №99 Robert Hassell III

On Green's removal: "On the other side of the coin, some prospects have seen their stock take a hit. Nationals outfielder Elijah Green has plenty of impact potential, but the rates of swing and miss he’s shown early in his career make most scouts believe he’ll have serious trouble getting to it at the highest levels."

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #155: June 07, 2023, 12:52:43 PM »
Except MLB just changed the rules to put emphasis on contact over power.

Bo Jackson had his K rate down below 30% in 1990. Heck, even in the minors, he had a sub 40% K-rate

K rates are way up too though. That's why relative to their peers Bo Jackson was worse at making contact with than say Joey Gallo.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #156: June 07, 2023, 01:10:22 PM »
Elijah Green is a teenager in full-season A ball. No short-season really forces him up a level and the results show that.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #157: June 09, 2023, 09:50:08 AM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/06/09/elijah-green-nationals-prospect/

Golden profile of what he's done and what he's working on at Fredericksburg this year. DeJon Watson and the F-burg manager provide thoughts.

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Had Green looked at his stats Thursday morning, he would have seen a .240 batting average, a .354 on-base percentage and a .359 slugging percentage. He would have seen three home runs. He would have seen 81 strikeouts in 46 games — which would put him on pace for 232 strikeouts over a 132-game season in low A. He would have seen 19 stolen bases in 22 attempts — on pace for 55 stolen bases in that same full season. The numbers, a mix of good and bad, paint a picture of a talented prospect still working through growing pains.
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“It’s about the swing decisions and managing the strike zone, and he’s going through a serious master class of it right now,” said Watson, who added that House went through the same struggles at times a year ago. “It’s the first time in his young career that he’s seen this much off-speed, and they’re not going to stop. They’re going to continue to entice him to chase and get him to expand the zone. And the goal for us is to help educate and teach him how to understand how they’re attacking him to see the ball better.”
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Green called his first few months in the minors a “learning curve” but “nothing I can’t handle.” He has spent that time developing a cage routine by working on a series of swing drills, including the flamingo, in which he puts his weight on his back leg before he swings. The drills focus on balance while allowing him to feel separation between his lower and upper half, which Lowery said will help him be on time with his swing.
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 His impressive athletic abilities have already been on display. Lowery said he has shown incredible speed on the base paths, sometimes using it to get away with late jumps on the pitcher. House said that Green makes catches he has “never seen people catch before.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/06/09/elijah-green-nationals-prospect/

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #158: June 09, 2023, 11:24:16 AM »
Good article. Tells us to be patient. I like the Brady House quote:

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House said that Green makes catches he has “never seen people catch before.”

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #159: June 11, 2023, 08:39:31 AM »
Stole his 20th yesterday and didn’t strike out!

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #160: June 11, 2023, 05:18:47 PM »
0-4, 0ks.  Little victories

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #161: June 23, 2023, 05:54:27 PM »
1-5, 2 RBIs, 3 Ks on 6/13
0-4, 2 Ks on 6/14
1-4, 2 Ks on 6/15
1-4, RBI, 2 Ks on 6/16
1-4 2Ks on 6/18
1-5, double, 4Ks on 6/22 (completion of 6/20 suspended game)
0-3, 1 BB, 2Ks today
 
Looks like we'll need to be really patient with him, and remind ourselves how young he is!

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #162: June 24, 2023, 07:13:44 PM »
This pick should've been Kevin Parada.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #163: June 24, 2023, 08:06:50 PM »
This pick should've been Kevin Parada.

That may very well end up true. But it's too early to say that IMO. You're talking about a 3 year college kid vs a kid drafted out of HS and comparing them less than a year into their pro careers.

But it's not like Parada went 6 or 7, either. He went 11. I'd think a better argument would be to have taken Brooks Lee, who was regarded higher. Parada is 2.5 years older, one level up from Green, and isn't exactly killing it either. Lee is putting up similar numbers to Parada, but at AA.

Green was always a risky pick. We knew it'd take time. I wouldn't jump off the ship just yet.


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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #164: June 24, 2023, 08:37:51 PM »
This pick should've been Kevin Parada.

Literally no one wanted him drafted here. I wanted Brooks Lee, but fine with Green.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #165: June 24, 2023, 08:55:23 PM »
Literally no one wanted him drafted here. I wanted Brooks Lee, but fine with Green.
I was actually curious about that

Well I hope they take Parada just to see you guys meltdown.

How did the board react when they selected Rendon. I recall skepticism elsewhere about that pick.

Shocked by the Rangers pick.

I want Parada. I think we’ll get him.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #166: June 24, 2023, 09:21:33 PM »
Literally no one wanted him drafted here. I wanted Brooks Lee, but fine with Green.

I'm pretty sure I wanted Parada lol

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #167: June 24, 2023, 10:23:26 PM »
0-4, 4Ks tonight :(

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #168: June 25, 2023, 07:55:29 AM »
I was actually curious about that


Nice receipt pulling :)

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #171: July 15, 2023, 10:15:09 PM »
I mean, this sounds like exactly what happened with House last year

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #172: July 15, 2023, 11:07:31 PM »
I mean, this sounds like exactly what happened with House last year


Yup. Just went missing one day. We will find out what the injury is/was at the end of the season

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #173: July 15, 2023, 11:53:13 PM »
Elijah has a severe bout of K-Itis. House was doing fine last year so you knew it was a real injury even if they couldn’t diagnose it. This may be something minor as an excuse to give him a week off. Which is fine. He’s just 19. Some here were overhyping him early on the season. Now others are ready to bury him. No middle ground on theee prospects I suppose.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Elijah Green, OF
« Reply #174: July 16, 2023, 07:44:00 AM »
I don't mind him disappearing for a bit.  Gotta play the long game with him.