Author Topic: PB69 presents "Fire Dave Martinez" (2018) (Read 57736 times)

mitlen · « **Reply #600 on:** April 25, 2018, 02:36:55 pm »

Quote from: dcpatti on April 25, 2018, 02:31:06 pm

.... and also nice to get called something other than, well, you've seen the last couple of weeks here....

I wish that was the worst I've ever been called.

NatsAllThe Way · « **Reply #601 on:** April 25, 2018, 03:04:01 pm »

Quote from: mitlen on April 25, 2018, 12:24:12 pm

Can't be any worse than finishin' 2018 behind the Barves.

Touche.

aspenbubba · « **Reply #602 on:** April 25, 2018, 03:07:46 pm »

Quote from: Optics on April 25, 2018, 02:03:33 pm

Wasn't Alex Cora one of our top choices? Man he's killing it in Boston. But its early yet. Its hard to blame Davey when Rendon, Eaton, and Murphy are hurt and guys who are healthy(Harper, Zimm)simply aren't hitting.

I don't even think he was contacted by us as he was rumored to be in the Sox camp .

aspenbubba · « **Reply #603 on:** April 25, 2018, 03:12:19 pm »

Quote from: dcpatti on April 25, 2018, 02:31:06 pm

Lind is back in the Yankees farm but I still don't understand why we didn't keep him (and I'm about 80% sure we didn't keep him, although some of the reports I read were that he'd been the one to decline the option).

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I believe Lind was holding out for a two year deal and declined the 5 mil option from the Nats.

BuckyHarris · « **Reply #604 on:** April 25, 2018, 03:47:44 pm »

Quote from: PowerBoater69 on April 25, 2018, 01:08:25 pm

True, but they'll blame the lost season on injuries, bringing back Baker would mean admitting they made a mistake.

A few years ago I was made unwelcome at X and left. Result was a dog's breakfast there but wouldn't go back however much they paid me. Hard to think this wouldn't apply to Dusty. Too much bad blood now, even if Rizzo made a profound Mea Culpa.

Your stats which show us better at sucking than Cincinnati are convincing, but I forget: Did Dusty have four keys comparable to Rendon-Murph-Eaton-Goodwin out simultaneously, and for how long? (Not counting Werth as a key.) Dusty sure made do with an inferior bullpen. His SR was about the same. Not sure we can blame this sorry start entirely on the mangler. The coaches may come in for some. Did Martinez specify them?

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #605 on:** April 25, 2018, 03:59:49 pm »

I thought Dusty screwed up on the playoffs but it was also on the players. Probably 60-40 blamed wise with the players having the greater share.

So in curious here on how some of our anti Martinez friends here rate his part in the bad start. From what I read here it seems 100 percent.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #606 on:** April 25, 2018, 04:00:43 pm »

Quote from: aspenbubba on April 25, 2018, 03:12:19 pm

I believe Lind was holding out for a two year deal and declined the 5 mil option from the Nats.

It was one of those bad moves by the team and also by Lind. He seems a better hitter than Adams.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #607 on:** April 25, 2018, 04:13:44 pm »

Quote from: mdnatsfan on April 25, 2018, 12:13:29 pm

Serious Question:

Can they rehire Dusty after they can this guy?

Surely a manager as great as Dusty will have another job by then

PowerBoater69 · « **Reply #608 on:** April 25, 2018, 04:17:30 pm »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on April 25, 2018, 04:13:44 pm

Surely a manager as great as Dusty will have another job by then

Too old to get hired anywhere else. Makes sense here for one last year because he knows the team.

PowerBoater69 · « **Reply #609 on:** April 25, 2018, 04:41:11 pm »

Blown chance, there will be no consequences, everyone gets an attaboy in Martinez's clubhouse.

skippy1999 · « **Reply #610 on:** April 25, 2018, 04:43:45 pm »

Quote from: PowerBoater69 on April 25, 2018, 04:41:11 pm

Blown chance, there will be no consequences, everyone gets an attaboy in Martinez's clubhouse.

Yep I'm certain that's what happens, back slaps and beers and no one cares a whit about winning.

PowerBoater69 · « **Reply #611 on:** April 25, 2018, 04:54:02 pm »

Quote from: skippy1999 on April 25, 2018, 04:43:45 pm

Yep I'm certain that's what happens, back slaps and beers and no one cares a whit about winning.

Quote from: skippy1999 on April 09, 2018, 01:22:15 pm

the fact people take you seriously when your flippin' avatar lets people know what you're doing kills me

skippy1999 · « **Reply #612 on:** April 25, 2018, 04:55:10 pm »

Quote from: PowerBoater69 on April 25, 2018, 04:54:02 pm

dammit I'm in a bad mood and couldn't stop myself lol

mitlen · « **Reply #613 on:** April 25, 2018, 04:56:38 pm »

Quote from: skippy1999 on April 25, 2018, 04:55:10 pm

dammit I'm in a bad mood and couldn't stop myself lol

It's better to kick us than the dogs.

GburgNatsFan · « **Reply #614 on:** April 25, 2018, 04:59:31 pm »

The result of some absolutely precision trolling....

Quote from: skippy1999 on April 25, 2018, 04:55:10 pm

dammit I'm in a bad mood and couldn't stop myself lol

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #615 on:** April 25, 2018, 05:01:03 pm »

Quote from: PowerBoater69 on April 25, 2018, 04:41:11 pm

Blown chance, there will be no consequences, everyone gets an attaboy in Martinez's clubhouse.

Nothing like the kind of accountability under Dusty, I bet a lesser manager would have played a veteran who couldn’t hit or run in the playoffs just based on his stature

varoadking · « **Reply #616 on:** April 25, 2018, 05:02:08 pm »

Quote from: skippy1999 on April 25, 2018, 04:43:45 pm

Yep I'm certain that's what happens, back slaps and beers and no one cares a whit about winning.

Don't forget the fried chicken...

skippy1999 · « **Reply #617 on:** April 25, 2018, 05:02:13 pm »

Quote from: GburgNatsFan on April 25, 2018, 04:59:31 pm

The result of some absolutely precision trolling....

Indeed and I got sucked in even though I flippin' KNEW better!!! Oh he's good!

skippy1999 · « **Reply #618 on:** April 25, 2018, 05:06:16 pm »

Quote from: varoadking on April 25, 2018, 05:02:08 pm

Don't forget the fried chickin...

lol maybe we need to hire Bobby V...then fire him after a year...then CHAMPIONSHIP!

Ray D · « **Reply #619 on:** April 25, 2018, 05:19:06 pm »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on April 25, 2018, 05:01:03 pm

Nothing like the kind of accountability under Dusty, I bet a lesser manager would have played a veteran who couldn’t hit or run in the playoffs just based on his stature

I wonder how much control Dusty had over that decision.

PowerBoater69 · « **Reply #620 on:** April 25, 2018, 06:43:38 pm »

Once all the offense from this afternoon is factored into the season average the expected Pythagorean win total is going to increase by two games, putting Martinez another game in the hole, from three to four.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #621 on:** April 25, 2018, 07:14:15 pm »

Quote from: PowerBoater69 on April 25, 2018, 06:43:38 pm

Once all the offense from this afternoon is factored into the season average the expected Pythagorean win total is going to increase by two games, putting Martinez another game in the hole, from three to four.

That’s what he gets for letting his boys show up the giants

GburgNatsFan · « **Reply #622 on:** April 25, 2018, 09:15:30 pm »

Rizzo wasn't sitting on the bench. Werth didn't have a contract in 2018. I can't see Rizzo interfering. It's reported that the Lerners were pissed about it.

Quote from: Ray D on April 25, 2018, 05:19:06 pm

I wonder how much control Dusty had over that decision.

PowerBoater69 · « **Reply #623 on:** April 25, 2018, 10:44:14 pm »

Quote from: GburgNatsFan on April 25, 2018, 09:15:30 pm

Rizzo wasn't sitting on the bench. Werth didn't have a contract in 2018. I can't see Rizzo interfering. It's reported that the Lerners were pissed about it.

The reason I suspected that Rizzo mandated the lineups was based on comments he made when interviewed on the Junkies, he was extremely supportive of Werth in the face of the fan base having moved on.

BuckyHarris · « **Reply #624 on:** April 26, 2018, 08:12:08 am »

Quote from: PowerBoater69 on April 25, 2018, 10:44:14 pm

The reason I suspected that Rizzo mandated the lineups was based on comments he made when interviewed on the Junkies...

Dyu think he made the one last night? The usual toothless junior lineup less Zim and Howie (Howie duly got his knock when he pinch hit). Yet they score 15, against 8 in the previous four non-Max starts. (Our other starters could use such help.) So how do we explain this phenomenon? Does DM really have much to do with what happens? Maybe that's the real situation.