Author Topic: Juan Soto - The Truth making it in DC this year (Read 47146 times)

I don't understand why the Juan Soto story isn't making a bigger splash nationally. He is having one of the greatest seasons by a teenager in baseball history. Fangraphs shows only six teens with a higher WAR in a season than him, and he will pass three of them in the next few weeks (all three are Hall of Famers). By offensive production, he trails only Ott and Conigliaro. I have to believe that those two were getting a lot more adulation than Soto is. Maybe as his home run totals grow and if the Nationals can get back in a pennant race, he will get recognition for the sensational debut he is having. But for now, he's getting the kind of coverage any 24-year-old rookie having a good season would get.

nfotiu · « **Reply #485 on:** August 03, 2018, 02:31:11 pm »

Quote from: vernon337 on August 03, 2018, 02:27:45 pm

I don't understand why the Juan Soto story isn't making a bigger splash nationally. He is having one of the greatest seasons by a teenager in baseball history. Fangraphs shows only six teens with a higher WAR in a season than him, and he will pass three of them in the next few weeks (all three are Hall of Famers). By offensive production, he trails only Ott and Conigliaro. I have to believe that those two were getting a lot more adulation than Soto is. Maybe as his home run totals grow and if the Nationals can get back in a pennant race, he will get recognition for the sensational debut he is having. But for now, he's getting the kind of coverage any 24-year-old rookie having a good season would get.

I agree, but I think the lack of national attention is probably a good thing. He had no hype coming up, so that's probably part of the reason. If he keeps up this pace the rest of the year and starts next year the same, I think he'll definitely be getting some attention though.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #486 on:** August 03, 2018, 02:31:43 pm »

Quote from: vernon337 on August 03, 2018, 02:27:45 pm

I don't understand why the Juan Soto story isn't making a bigger splash nationally. He is having one of the greatest seasons by a teenager in baseball history. Fangraphs shows only six teens with a higher WAR in a season than him, and he will pass three of them in the next few weeks (all three are Hall of Famers). By offensive production, he trails only Ott and Conigliaro. I have to believe that those two were getting a lot more adulation than Soto is. Maybe as his home run totals grow and if the Nationals can get back in a pennant race, he will get recognition for the sensational debut he is having. But for now, he's getting the kind of coverage any 24-year-old rookie having a good season would get.

Because MLB doesn't know how to market Hispanic players. And there is not as much interest among them with casual fans as there is for white players.

spidernat · « **Reply #487 on:** August 03, 2018, 02:37:54 pm »

Quote from: nfotiu on August 03, 2018, 02:31:11 pm

I agree, but I think the lack of national attention is probably a good thing. He had no hype coming up, so that's probably part of the reason. If he keeps up this pace the rest of the year and starts next year the same, I think he'll definitely be getting some attention though.

I agree with this.

vernon337 · « **Reply #488 on:** August 03, 2018, 03:13:47 pm »

Quote from: nfotiu on August 03, 2018, 02:31:11 pm

I agree, but I think the lack of national attention is probably a good thing. He had no hype coming up, so that's probably part of the reason. If he keeps up this pace the rest of the year and starts next year the same, I think he'll definitely be getting some attention though.

Agree. Good point about no hype ahead of time, unlike Harper. In the long run, his coming out of nowhere will be a terrific part of his story.

UMDNats · « **Reply #489 on:** August 03, 2018, 03:18:00 pm »

Crazy to think this guy will be playing in the World Series on his 20th birthday.

varoadking · « **Reply #490 on:** August 03, 2018, 03:19:45 pm »

Quote from: UMDNats on August 03, 2018, 03:18:00 pm

Crazy to think this guy will be playing in the World Series on his 20th birthday.

Wait...we traded him?

mitlen · « **Reply #491 on:** August 03, 2018, 03:27:03 pm »

Quote from: varoadking on August 03, 2018, 03:19:45 pm

Wait...we traded him?

Shame on you.

Heads'll explode.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #492 on:** August 03, 2018, 03:30:12 pm »

Quote from: varoadking on August 03, 2018, 03:19:45 pm

Wait...we traded him?

To the Yankees. Or maybe it was the Red Sox. Saves time. We don't have to agonize over him leaving in a few years.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #493 on:** August 03, 2018, 03:30:39 pm »

Quote from: mitlen on August 03, 2018, 03:27:03 pm

Shame on you. Heads'll explode.

Need to sell now. His value will never be higher.

mitlen · « **Reply #494 on:** August 03, 2018, 03:33:09 pm »

Quote from: Natsinpwc on August 03, 2018, 03:30:39 pm

Need to sell now. His value will never be higher.

Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeriste you're just as bad. You're gonna have 'em panicin' in the streets.

Then the mensa squad will try to belittle yunz for wantin' to sell/trade.

rbw5t · « **Reply #495 on:** August 03, 2018, 03:36:34 pm »

I'm also happy that he's been flying under the radar. Won't last forever, but it definitely makes adjusting to the big leagues easier. He's gonna be really tight on having enough plate appearances to qualify for league leaders lists, but if he has a hot finish, he could conceivably be near the top of the league in BA and even OPS. Wouldn't that be something!

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #496 on:** August 03, 2018, 03:57:54 pm »

Quote from: mitlen on August 03, 2018, 03:33:09 pm

Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeriste you're just as bad. You're gonna have 'em panicin' in the streets. Then the mensa squad will try to belittle yunz for wantin' to sell/trade.

It's all economics. And Math. WAR divided by angst the multiplied by the inverse of the current panic factor.

mitlen · « **Reply #497 on:** August 03, 2018, 03:59:33 pm »

Quote from: Natsinpwc on August 03, 2018, 03:57:54 pm

It's all economics. And Math. WAR divided by angst the multiplied by the inverse of the current panic factor.

Ah, math. It's a proverbial statistic.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #498 on:** August 03, 2018, 04:10:37 pm »

Quote from: mitlen on August 03, 2018, 03:59:33 pm

Ah, math. It's a proverbial statistic.

Why do you say that Mitlen?

Signed,
Mathguy.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #499 on:** August 03, 2018, 04:27:07 pm »

Quote from: vernon337 on August 03, 2018, 02:27:45 pm

I don't understand why the Juan Soto story isn't making a bigger splash nationally. He is having one of the greatest seasons by a teenager in baseball history. Fangraphs shows only six teens with a higher WAR in a season than him, and he will pass three of them in the next few weeks (all three are Hall of Famers). By offensive production, he trails only Ott and Conigliaro. I have to believe that those two were getting a lot more adulation than Soto is. Maybe as his home run totals grow and if the Nationals can get back in a pennant race, he will get recognition for the sensational debut he is having. But for now, he's getting the kind of coverage any 24-year-old rookie having a good season would get.

He's getting a lot of attention in the baseball press, but part of the reason he's not getting more mainstream press is that baseball is not as big as it was in the 50s and earlier. Also, New York has Gleyber and Andujar, so there's a lot of rookies right now dividing up the attention. It probably is true that baseball doesn't know how to hype Latinos.