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Re: Juan Soto - The Truth making it in DC this year
« Reply #575 on: August 08, 2018, 11:29:22 pm »
The Smiley Gonzalez- Carlos Alvarez fraud was what, 8-9 years ago? That had serious implications for the Nats as you well know. How can you be so assured that today's DR record recording/keeping is on the up and up? What suddenly changed?

Bottom line is unless Simpson has hard evidence that Soto isn't 19, which he doesn't, he needs to shut up. This isn't open season to simply speculate on a kid's age just because of where he's from and how good he is. 

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Re: Juan Soto - The Truth making it in DC this year
« Reply #576 on: August 09, 2018, 11:04:09 am »
How did the "hard evidence" emerge on Esmailyn Gonzalez? Anyone recall? Didn't the Nats themselves sort of welcome/instigate outside inquiries?

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« Reply #577 on: August 10, 2018, 10:24:32 am »
https://twitter.com/DPLBaseball/status/1027695298846629889

Braves fans in the comments are, shockingly, defending Simpson 100%.

Pretty hilarious to see the DPL come out so strongly and personally against a total dick blowhard lie Simpson. This is great, and so true. He literally only "apologized" because Rizzo confronted him. He knows Braves fans heard him loud and clear - "Soto may or may not be 19."

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« Reply #578 on: August 10, 2018, 11:06:21 am »
https://twitter.com/DPLBaseball/status/1027695298846629889

Braves fans in the comments are, shockingly, defending Simpson 100%.

Pretty hilarious to see the DPL come out so strongly and personally against a total dick blowhard lie Simpson. This is great, and so true. He literally only "apologized" because Rizzo confronted him. He knows Braves fans heard him loud and clear - "Soto may or may not be 19."

I’m normally not a grammar stickler, because it’s dickish to correct grammar on Internet forums. But if you are putting out a professional document and want to be taken seriously, you need to know the difference between “donned” and “dawned”. I cringed when I read it.

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Re: Juan Soto - The Truth making it in DC this year
« Reply #579 on: August 10, 2018, 11:18:21 am »
It's a homophone gone wrong by a non-native English speaker. I don't think it's that big a deal compared to classics like 'Bite the Wax Tadpole.'

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Re: Juan Soto - The Truth making it in DC this year
« Reply #580 on: August 10, 2018, 12:06:31 pm »
Proper grammar and spelling in documents are absolutely needed when addressing something professionally. Otherwise, as bluestreak, demonstrated, the message loses its meaning. It's not difficult to send a draft of a statement to a copy editor.

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Re: Juan Soto - The Truth making it in DC this year
« Reply #581 on: August 13, 2018, 08:06:49 pm »
How the latest in bigotry reminds us that baseball is indeed a white man's game

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/latest-bigotry-reminds-us-baseball-indeed-white-mans-game-060228106.html


Barring an injury, Juan Soto will be only the 15th player in the last century to log 400-plus plate appearances in a season as a teenager. (AP Photo)

The consequences of this are subtle and damning, and they’re how someone like Atlanta Braves announcer Joe Simpson starts a sentence about the Washington Nationals’ precocious outfielder Juan Soto with: “If he’s 19 … ” This is not just about the dog-whistling of a 66-year-old white man who found it perfectly appropriate to imply on a live broadcast that this kid from the Dominican Republic might be lying about his age. Because, you see, other Dominican players have lied about their age, so obviously Soto, who’s really good, and who, Simpson would go on to say, has “man growth,” must be doing it, too.

No, this is about a sport that gives someone like Joe Simpson a platform to say this. A sport that teems with players whose old tweets are filled with racist and bigoted thoughts and language. A sport that day after day, revelation after revelation, exposes itself as a place that subtly and not-so-subtly lets people of color know exactly what the ruling class of the game thinks of them.

Simpson, who through the Braves declined to comment, was rebuked more for his ill-advised but ultimately harmless yelling at clouds about the Los Angeles Dodgers showing disrespect via their batting-practice attire. He apologized for that. Simpson offered no such thing after Nationals general manager Mike Rizzo rightly berated him about Soto, instead saying: “He’s a bona fide 19. And he is a full-grown man. He is strong. And he is one heck of a player. You might as well just write his name in on the Rookie of the Year award right now.”...

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Re: Juan Soto - The Truth making it in DC this year
« Reply #582 on: August 15, 2018, 11:02:33 am »
Acuna making late run for RoY??

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« Reply #583 on: August 15, 2018, 03:34:43 pm »
Acuna making late run for RoY??

Sure. But unless he does this for the rest of the season, he ain't even close

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Re: Juan Soto - The Truth making it in DC this year
« Reply #584 on: August 16, 2018, 08:06:16 pm »
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Hitting .222 in August. Looks like the league has caught on

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« Reply #585 on: August 16, 2018, 08:07:31 pm »
Hitting .222 in August. Looks like the league has caught on

First base!

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Re: Juan Soto - The Truth making it in DC this year
« Reply #586 on: August 17, 2018, 05:03:40 am »
Needs a couple of days off. He has played almost a half season

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« Reply #587 on: August 17, 2018, 06:48:42 am »
Needs a couple of days off. He has played almost a half season
No doubt about it.  Give his a night off every now and then.  I'm sure he has never played this much.

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« Reply #588 on: August 17, 2018, 07:02:35 am »
No doubt about it.  Give his a night off every now and then.  I'm sure he has never played this much.

He has played more games and has more PA this season than 2016 and 2017 combined. By a wide margin.

I think he needs a mental break more than a physical break. Coming into the 2018 season he had played in a road trip league a grand total of 23 games.

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« Reply #589 on: August 17, 2018, 07:25:00 am »
Chill out people. The regular season is only 6 more weeks.

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« Reply #590 on: August 17, 2018, 09:17:15 am »
He has played more games and has more PA this season than 2016 and 2017 combined. By a wide margin.

I think he needs a mental break more than a physical break. Coming into the 2018 season he had played in a road trip league a grand total of 23 games.

I said this earlier and got laughed at by most people (“you play him every day if he’s hitting this well. You’re dumb otherwise” was the basic gist).
The season is a grind. He’s 19 and hasn’t played anywhere close to long stretches even in the minors.

And the problem is that if you wait for a drop off in production, then it’s become something that one game off isn’t going to fix. I do believe the offense last year performed better when they got regular days off.

Everyone needs periodic days off. Because players will otherwise take them in days that they are in the lineup (not saying they do this on purpose, just saying fatigue sets in).

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« Reply #591 on: August 17, 2018, 09:26:07 am »
I think it's fine to push him a little. He's not a SP, you're not going to permanently damage him physically, and he needs to experience what its like to grind through a season. He's walking 25% of the time in August and striking out just 20% of the time. He's still making good contact and hitting with decent power. He has a .242 BABIP. I would say don't overthink it and let him experience a little frustration.

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« Reply #592 on: August 17, 2018, 09:26:14 am »
Hitting .204/.409/.388 in August. The slugging is down, but that OPS is still right about .800.

He is a rookie. For a cold streak, that could be much worse.

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« Reply #593 on: August 17, 2018, 09:30:25 am »
Oh, I think he’s fine, but given there is an abundance of data out there that says that periodic rest improves performance and prevents injury, why not give the guy an occasional day off?

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« Reply #594 on: August 17, 2018, 09:54:25 am »
Yeah that seems fine. Feels like no one should really play more than 154 games or so. Even if you're completely healthy, play April and May and then a day off every 2 weeks through the end of the season.

Of course, it would be better if the entire league just played 154 games and teams had more off days, but whatever :)

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« Reply #595 on: August 17, 2018, 12:11:44 pm »
154 games with multiple Sunday single admission double headers sprinkled in. Would allow for the season to begin in mid-April and World Series to end by mid to late October. No March or November baseball. Would give players a lot more days off and reward roster depth and fans.

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Re: Juan Soto - The Truth making it in DC this year
« Reply #596 on: August 17, 2018, 12:14:11 pm »
Hitting .204/.409/.388 in August. The slugging is down, but that OPS is still right about .800.

He is a rookie. For a cold streak, that could be much worse.
Yep. Still well above the average MLB OPS.

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« Reply #597 on: August 17, 2018, 12:15:06 pm »


I'm all in favor of 154 game seasons, but would like the playoff's expanded to 4 full rounds, which would potentially add back the 8 games...

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Re: Juan Soto - The Truth making it in DC this year
« Reply #598 on: August 17, 2018, 12:16:42 pm »
Yep. Still well above the average MLB OPS.
Yea, but it shows a pretty dramatic decline in the two "swing" related stats. .204 average isn't good. Now, a .409 OBP is indicative that he's not compromising his pitch judgement. So he knows what's in and out of the zone, he's either just hitting some bad luck, or could be being pitched differently.

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Re: Juan Soto - The Truth making it in DC this year
« Reply #599 on: August 17, 2018, 03:11:15 pm »

I'm all in favor of 154 game seasons, but would like the playoff's expanded to 4 full rounds, which would potentially add back the 8 games...

Yes, Soto should have been getting a game off now and again.
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154 games makes sense.

Wild Card should be best two out of three.  Alternatively, I like John Smoltz's idea of making only the 2nd Wild Card team have to win two consecutive games.

LDS should be best of seven.  Same as NBA and NHL.