Author Topic: Juan Soto - The Truth making it in DC this year (Read 46884 times)

aspenbubba · « **Reply #400 on:** June 25, 2018, 03:08:50 pm »

Quote from: bluestreak on June 25, 2018, 03:04:35 pm

I really like Soto, but I can’t wait to see the reaction on here when he hits a slump.

You're repeating yourself

Ray D · « **Reply #401 on:** June 25, 2018, 03:09:16 pm »

Quote from: bluestreak on June 25, 2018, 03:04:35 pm

I really like Soto, but I can’t wait to see the reaction on here when he hits a slump.

I'm more interested in his reaction. Will he become frustrated and lose his plate discipline, swinging wildly at pitches outside the zone? I hope not. If he maintains his discipline, his slump won't last long. If he becomes a Michael A. Taylor, then yeah, the reaction here will be harsh.

GburgNatsFan · « **Reply #402 on:** June 25, 2018, 05:37:01 pm »

I'm betting he keeps that Mike Trout shark grin on his face and works his way through it pretty quick.

Quote from: Ray D on June 25, 2018, 03:09:16 pm

I'm more interested in his reaction. Will he become frustrated and lose his plate discipline, swinging wildly at pitches outside the zone? I hope not. If he maintains his discipline, his slump won't last long. If he becomes a Michael A. Taylor, then yeah, the reaction here will be harsh.

CoryTheFormerExposFan · « **Reply #403 on:** June 26, 2018, 01:01:45 pm »

EVERY player slumps, so let's get that out of the way. Who has the makeup to continue their recent performance? Soto or MAT? Soto, 7 or 8 years younger, has displayed throughout his career FAR better plate discipline as well as superior power to MAT. At this point, it's hard to suspect MAT has permanently turned a corner and can hit well over the long haul. He reminds me of a CF version of Espinosa. He may get it together in stretches, but then he'll revert back to a K machine. MAT is a perfect 4th OF. Soto is a guy you want to keep in the lineup most every day.

GburgNatsFan · « **Reply #404 on:** June 26, 2018, 01:46:13 pm »

I'm willing to trade streakiness for elite defense in CF. But I know not everyone feels that way.

Quote from: CoryTheFormerExposFan on June 26, 2018, 01:01:45 pm

EVERY player slumps, so let's get that out of the way. Who has the makeup to continue their recent performance? Soto or MAT? Soto, 7 or 8 years younger, has displayed throughout his career FAR better plate discipline as well as superior power to MAT. At this point, it's hard to suspect MAT has permanently turned a corner and can hit well over the long haul. He reminds me of a CF version of Espinosa. He may get it together in stretches, but then he'll revert back to a K machine. MAT is a perfect 4th OF. Soto is a guy you want to keep in the lineup most every day.

CoryTheFormerExposFan · « **Reply #405 on:** June 26, 2018, 02:03:26 pm »

Quote from: GburgNatsFan on June 26, 2018, 01:46:13 pm

I'm willing to trade streakiness for elite defense in CF. But I know not everyone feels that way.

Which is why MAT makes a great 4th OF. Start him against lefties and sit Soto or Eaton, and use him otherwise as a late pinch runner/defensive replacement.

Slateman · « **Reply #406 on:** June 26, 2018, 02:07:33 pm »

Quote from: GburgNatsFan on June 26, 2018, 01:46:13 pm

I'm willing to trade streakiness for elite defense in CF. But I know not everyone feels that way.

Too bad Taylor doesnt qualify

GburgNatsFan · « **Reply #407 on:** June 26, 2018, 02:10:53 pm »

Yeah okay.

Quote from: Slateman on June 26, 2018, 02:07:33 pm

Too bad Taylor doesnt qualify

GburgNatsFan · « **Reply #408 on:** June 29, 2018, 03:04:05 pm »

Read this and thought, yeah but, he's not a teenager.

https://www.mlb.com/news/juan-soto-working-on-best-teenage-mlb-season/c-283388364

DCFan · « **Reply #409 on:** June 29, 2018, 05:23:07 pm »

Quote from: spidernat on June 24, 2018, 02:35:22 pm

Especially if the truth turns out to be that he's not 19.

He doesn’t look like a teenager.

imref · « **Reply #410 on:** June 29, 2018, 10:45:02 pm »

19 year old all star.

bluestreak · « **Reply #411 on:** June 29, 2018, 11:16:46 pm »

Soto projects to a 5 win player over a 162 game season(by fWAR). And that includes crappy defense.

Air Desmond · « **Reply #412 on:** June 29, 2018, 11:44:25 pm »

Quote from: spidernat on June 24, 2018, 02:35:22 pm

Especially if the truth turns out to be that he's not 19.

Is there basis to this speculation? Or are you just being a wise guy

bluestreak · « **Reply #413 on:** June 29, 2018, 11:45:07 pm »

Juan Soto is the youngest player to have mutiple games with at four RBI since Mickey Mantle in 1951.

GNatsNoMore · « **Reply #414 on:** June 30, 2018, 12:20:15 am »

Quote from: bluestreak on June 29, 2018, 11:16:46 pm

Soto projects to a 5 win player over a 162 game season(by fWAR). And that includes crappy defense.

Wow! According to MLB, no 19 year everyday MLB player has ever had an actual WAR over 5 in their rookie season except for Harper. It looks like Mel Ott's projected would have been about 5 for a full season.
https://www.mlb.com/news/best-teenage-baseball-players/c-275684370

Quote from: bluestreak on June 29, 2018, 11:45:07 pm

Juan Soto is the youngest player to have mutiple games with at four RBI since Mickey Mantle in 1951.

And Mantle, who started opening day for the Yankees in 1951, only had a WAR of 1.5 that year.

imref · « **Reply #415 on:** June 30, 2018, 12:20:34 am »

Nationals' FB page is calling him "Childish Bambino"

aBaltoNat · « **Reply #416 on:** June 30, 2018, 10:18:43 am »

Quote from: imref on June 30, 2018, 12:20:34 am

Nationals' FB page is calling him "Childish Bambino"

Welcome to 4 weeks ago.

varoadking · « **Reply #417 on:** June 30, 2018, 10:26:10 am »

Quote from: aBaltoNat on June 30, 2018, 10:18:43 am

Welcome to 4 weeks ago.

imref is the USA Today in the internet era...

LoveAngelos · « **Reply #418 on:** June 30, 2018, 10:29:47 am »

What if Soto had the Boras hype machine working for him?

vernon337 · « **Reply #419 on:** June 30, 2018, 12:47:20 pm »

At what point can I stop worrying that major league pitchers just haven't figured him out yet, and embrace the idea that he has proven himself at this level?

Baseball is Life · « **Reply #420 on:** June 30, 2018, 12:50:29 pm »

Quote from: vernon337 on June 30, 2018, 12:47:20 pm

At what point can I stop worrying that major league pitchers just haven't figured him out yet, and embrace the idea that he has proven himself at this level?

After his sophomore season. Sophomore jinx and all.

Optics · « **Reply #421 on:** June 30, 2018, 01:29:53 pm »

Quote from: vernon337 on June 30, 2018, 12:47:20 pm

At what point can I stop worrying that major league pitchers just haven't figured him out yet, and embrace the idea that he has proven himself at this level?

After a full year or two of elite play. MLB history is chock full of guys who were fantastic early and tail off.

But I too do believe Soto is the truth.

LoveAngelos · « **Reply #422 on:** June 30, 2018, 04:28:52 pm »

Quote from: Optics on June 30, 2018, 01:29:53 pm

After a full year or two of elite play. MLB history is chock full of guys who were fantastic early and tail off.

But I too do believe Soto is the truth.

Thy name is Royce

vernon337 · « **Reply #423 on:** July 01, 2018, 11:06:55 am »

Quote from: LoveAngelos on June 30, 2018, 04:28:52 pm

Quote from: Optics on June 30, 2018, 01:29:53 pm
After a full year or two of elite play. MLB history is chock full of guys who were fantastic early and tail off.

But I too do believe Soto is the truth.

Thy name is Royce

Comparing Soto after 120 ABs to Bryce after 121 ABs as 19-year-old Major Leaguers:

Batting average: Soto .325, Harper .286
OBP: Soto .434, Harper .372
SLG: Soto .600, Harper .514
HR: Soto 8, Harper 4

There really aren't that many who were fantastic as 19-year-olds (of course, Soto has a lot of time left in this season) who then faded out. Here's the list of those who amassed a higher offensive WAR through the entire season they were 19 than Soto has at this point: Ott, Conigliaro and Harper.

imref · « **Reply #424 on:** July 02, 2018, 01:20:05 pm »

named NL Rookie of the Month for June.