Author Topic: Bryce Harper 2018 and beyond (Read 156539 times)

MorseTheHorse · « **Reply #1125 on:** July 04, 2018, 08:12:23 pm »

Quote from: Baseball is Life on July 04, 2018, 06:03:02 am

The hate for Harper after he watched a fly ball that he thought was going out is weird. It happens a lot in MLB but you don't see people freaking out over others when they do it.

I don't think I've ever seen an athlete who has ever gotten as much scrutiny as Harper does.

He's been staring at every HR this year, whilst hitting .210. How can you not get the hate?

varoadking · « **Reply #1126 on:** July 04, 2018, 08:14:32 pm »

Meanwhile...the Park was sold out for 3 straight dates at over 120,000 paid...

Baseball is Life · « **Reply #1127 on:** July 04, 2018, 08:20:30 pm »

Quote from: MorseTheHorse on July 04, 2018, 08:12:23 pm

He's been staring at every HR this year, whilst hitting .210. How can you not get the hate?

Staring at every homer that goes out is just fine. And, the hate is easy to understand. Sports fans are not complicated. You perform well, they love you. You perform below expectations, they don’t love you.

LoveAngelos · « **Reply #1128 on:** July 04, 2018, 08:38:05 pm »

He may be the first sub mendoza all star starter.

Bryce was raised to be just what he is

mitlen · « **Reply #1129 on:** July 04, 2018, 10:58:06 pm »

Quote from: LoveAngelos on July 04, 2018, 08:38:05 pm

Bryce was raised to be just what he is

And I'm not referrin' to his folks. It's everybody who's ever come in contact with him (prodigy). As John Thompson once said about a player, "No one's ever told him to sit down and shut the hell up."

Baseball is Life · « **Reply #1130 on:** July 05, 2018, 06:36:18 am »

I don't agree with all what's said in this article, but I'm getting tired of the conventional narrative about Harper.

http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/news/bryce-harper-selfish-losing-player-washington-nationals-free-agent-rumors-yankees/13q5c7ixw1lac1xp4ht5542zwc

Is Harper selfish for trying to go deep every time up? No, he's just like every other power hitter.

Is he selfish for not busting tail every second? No, he's just like every other big-leaguer, star or scrub.

Is he selfish for showing off his throwing arm at times? No, he just has a rocket, and he tries to deter baserunners with it.

Is he selfish for speaking his mind or for being cocky? No, that's just his personality. Deal with it.

mitlen · « **Reply #1131 on:** July 05, 2018, 11:24:52 am »

Quote from: Baseball is Life on July 05, 2018, 06:36:18 am

I don't agree with all what's said in this article, but I'm getting tired of the conventional narrative about Harper.

http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/news/bryce-harper-selfish-losing-player-washington-nationals-free-agent-rumors-yankees/13q5c7ixw1lac1xp4ht5542zwc

Is Harper selfish for trying to go deep every time up? No, he's just like every other power hitter.

Is he selfish for not busting tail every second? No, he's just like every other big-leaguer, star or scrub.

Is he selfish for showing off his throwing arm at times? No, he just has a rocket, and he tries to deter baserunners with it.

Is he selfish for speaking his mind or for being cocky? No, that's just his personality. Deal with it.

If he's just like the other Joes, he ain't worth $400,000,000. Him and Scottie can deal with that.

PowerBoater69 · « **Reply #1132 on:** July 05, 2018, 11:33:13 am »

Quote from: Baseball is Life on July 05, 2018, 06:36:18 am

I don't agree with all what's said in this article, but I'm getting tired of the conventional narrative about Harper.

http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/news/bryce-harper-selfish-losing-player-washington-nationals-free-agent-rumors-yankees/13q5c7ixw1lac1xp4ht5542zwc

Is Harper selfish for trying to go deep every time up? No, he's just like every other power hitter.

Is he selfish for not busting tail every second? No, he's just like every other big-leaguer, star or scrub.

Is he selfish for showing off his throwing arm at times? No, he just has a rocket, and he tries to deter baserunners with it.

Is he selfish for speaking his mind or for being cocky? No, that's just his personality. Deal with it.

Agreed on each individual point, add them all up and what do you get?

Baseball is Life · « **Reply #1133 on:** July 05, 2018, 01:01:08 pm »

Quote from: mitlen on July 05, 2018, 11:24:52 am

If he's just like the other Joes, he ain't worth $400,000,000.

He's not like all the Joes when it comes to talent. The article was addressing ancillary issues that some fans seem to obsess about it.

mitlen · « **Reply #1134 on:** July 05, 2018, 01:38:49 pm »

Quote from: Baseball is Life on July 05, 2018, 01:01:08 pm

He's not like all the Joes when it comes to talent. The article was addressing ancillary issues that some fans seem to obsess about it.

Oh but he is. You're in denial.

Five Banners · « **Reply #1135 on:** July 05, 2018, 01:54:03 pm »

Quote from: LoveAngelos on July 04, 2018, 08:38:05 pm

He may be the first sub mendoza all star starter.

Bryce was raised to be just what he is

Don't remember if either started, but I remember one year that both Reggie Jackson and Dave Lopes being on All-Star teams hitting .199 each.

Baseball is Life · « **Reply #1136 on:** July 05, 2018, 02:26:41 pm »

Quote from: mitlen on July 05, 2018, 01:38:49 pm

Oh but he is. You're in denial.

You can say a lot of things about Harper but you can't say he's like all the other Joe's when it comes to talent. Former MVP, five-time all star, leading the league in HRs, etc., and just 25.

mitlen · « **Reply #1137 on:** July 05, 2018, 02:34:52 pm »

Quote from: Baseball is Life on July 05, 2018, 02:26:41 pm

You can say a lot of things about Harper but you can't say he's like all the other Joe's when it comes to talent. Former MVP, five-time all star, leading the league in HRs, etc., and just 25.

I'm of the Janet Jackson school, "What have you done for me lately?"

Greg_SRT · « **Reply #1138 on:** July 05, 2018, 02:37:11 pm »

Quote from: mitlen on July 05, 2018, 02:34:52 pm

I'm of the Janet Jackson school, "What have you done for me lately?"

But are you still... hot for teacher?

skippy1999 · « **Reply #1139 on:** July 05, 2018, 02:41:59 pm »

Quote from: Baseball is Life on July 05, 2018, 02:26:41 pm

You can say a lot of things about Harper but you can't say he's like all the other Joe's when it comes to talent. Former MVP, five-time all star, leading the league in HRs, etc., and just 25.

Agree with BiL on Bryce. I've no clue how someone so supremely talented could be such the suck all season but he is head and shoulders above most players talent-wise.

mitlen · « **Reply #1140 on:** July 05, 2018, 02:45:44 pm »

Quote from: skippy1999 on July 05, 2018, 02:41:59 pm

Agree with BiL on Bryce. I've no clue how someone so supremely talented could be such the suck all season but he is head and shoulders above most players talent-wise.

I can't win now. Guess I'll go back to the pool.

Ray D · « **Reply #1141 on:** July 05, 2018, 02:54:47 pm »

Quote from: skippy1999 on July 05, 2018, 02:41:59 pm

Agree with BiL on Bryce. I've no clue how someone so supremely talented could be such the suck all season but he is head and shoulders above most players talent-wise.

Is talent something that can disappear?

varoadking · « **Reply #1142 on:** July 05, 2018, 02:58:56 pm »

Quote from: Ray D on July 05, 2018, 02:54:47 pm

Is talent something that can disappear?

Not sure it can disappear...but it certainly can be wasted...

skippy1999 · « **Reply #1143 on:** July 05, 2018, 03:24:57 pm »

Quote from: varoadking on July 05, 2018, 02:58:56 pm

Not sure it can disappear...but it certainly can be wasted...

yes, this season being a prime example

Baseball is Life · « **Reply #1144 on:** July 05, 2018, 04:02:03 pm »

Quote from: Ray D on July 05, 2018, 02:54:47 pm

Is talent something that can disappear?

Not overnight it can't.

Baseball is Life · « **Reply #1145 on:** July 05, 2018, 04:03:37 pm »

Quote from: mitlen on July 05, 2018, 02:34:52 pm

I'm of the Janet Jackson school, "What have you done for me lately?"

Wow, that's harsh. Players are going to slump. And, really, it's not like Harper is having a totally bad year. The guy is going to end up with 40HR and 100 RBI, roughly. I know his BA and OBP is down but that can change.

It's not really about what he's done in the past when deciding if to sign him or not, it's what you think he's going to do in the future.

Again, I just think the guy is super scrutinized and some fans just don't like the highly hyped, highly paid players with a bit of color. They prefer to root for "gamers" like Eaton, Roark, etc. I get that. Underdog and all.

Ray D · « **Reply #1146 on:** July 05, 2018, 04:47:01 pm »

Quote from: Baseball is Life on July 05, 2018, 04:03:37 pm

The guy is going to end up with 40HR

I don't know about that. He has 21, but 18 of them in April and May. two homeruns in June. How do we know July, August, and September won't be more like June than April or May. Don't forger 2016; he had 9 in April and then a total of 15 for the remaining five months.

rileyn · « **Reply #1147 on:** July 05, 2018, 04:48:19 pm »

Quote from: Baseball is Life on July 05, 2018, 04:03:37 pm

Wow, that's harsh. Players are going to slump. And, really, it's not like Harper is having a totally bad year. The guy is going to end up with 40HR and 100 RBI, roughly. I know his BA and OBP is down but that can change.

It's not really about what he's done in the past when deciding if to sign him or not, it's what you think he's going to do in the future.

Again, I just think the guy is super scrutinized and some fans just don't like the highly hyped, highly paid players with a bit of color. They prefer to root for "gamers" like Eaton, Roark, etc. I get that. Underdog and all.

I don't know if he is going to get to 40 HR or 100 RBI. In his last 30 games he has 3 HR and 10 RBI. His blazing April and May set him up to have nice projections, but he needs to turn it around quickly. (yes, I know, Captain Obvious)

spidernat · « **Reply #1148 on:** July 05, 2018, 04:59:16 pm »

Quote from: Ray D on July 05, 2018, 02:54:47 pm

Is talent something that can disappear?

Talent needs to be continually honed, that's probably even true of rare specimens, or it will blunt.

DCFan · « **Reply #1149 on:** July 05, 2018, 05:01:43 pm »

Quote from: Baseball is Life on July 05, 2018, 06:36:18 am

Is he selfish for showing off his throwing arm at times? No, he just has a rocket, and he tries to deter baserunners with it.

Fake news. Bryce no longer has the arm and no longer intimidates runners with it. He is just another outfielder.