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Re: Offseason moves?
« Reply #1600 on: December 02, 2013, 11:56:04 pm »
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#Nats announce they've agreed to terms with RHP Ross Ohlendorf on a one-year deal, avoiding arbitration

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Re: Offseason moves?
« Reply #1601 on: December 03, 2013, 12:04:53 am »
So far it looks like the pen has five "locks" in Ohlendorf, Soriano, Storen, Clippard and Stammen.  Rotation looks set with Strasburg, Gio, JZimm, Fister and Detwiler.

I'm saying Boone Logan and either Cedeno or somebody like J.P. Howell would round the pen out fine.  Maybe there is a taker for Soriano out there somewhere...

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Re: Offseason moves?
« Reply #1602 on: December 03, 2013, 12:05:13 am »
Dan Kolko ‏@masnKolko 37s

#Nats announce they've agreed to terms with RHP Ross Ohlendorf on a one-year deal, avoiding arbitration

Uh-oh.  we're duking him.

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Re: Offseason moves?
« Reply #1603 on: December 03, 2013, 12:57:23 am »
Robinson Cano come on down. It just makes so much sense followed by trading Laroche.

Rotation (5)

1- RH- Stephen Strasburg
2- LH- Gio Gonzalez
3- RH- Jordan Zimmerman
4- RH- Doug Fister
5- RH- Tanner Roark / RH- Taylor Jordan

Bullpen (7)

LH- Sammy Solis
LH- Ross Detwiler
RH long relief- Ross Ohlendorf
RH- Craig Stammen
RH- Drew Storen
RH Setup- Tyler Clippard
Closer- Rafael Soriano

Bench (5)

OF- Scott Hairston
IF- Danny Espinosa
OF/1B- Tyler Moore
C- ?
3B- ?

Lineup (8 )

CF- Denard Span
2B- Robinson Cano
LF- Bryce Harper
1B- Ryan Zimmerman
RF- Jayson Werth
SS- Ian Desmond
3B- Anthony Rendon
C- Wilson Ramos

Wow. What a lineup.

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Re: Offseason moves?
« Reply #1604 on: December 03, 2013, 01:08:11 am »
Robinson Cano come on down. It just makes so much sense followed by trading Laroche.

Rotation (5)

1- RH- Stephen Strasburg
2- LH- Gio Gonzalez
3- RH- Jordan Zimmerman
4- RH- Doug Fister
5- RH- Tanner Roark / RH- Taylor Jordan

Bullpen (7)

LH- Sammy Solis
LH- Ross Detwiler
RH long relief- Ross Ohlendorf
RH- Craig Stammen
RH- Drew Storen
RH Setup- Tyler Clippard
Closer- Rafael Soriano

Bench (5)

OF- Scott Hairston
IF- Danny Espinosa
OF/1B- Tyler Moore
C- ?
3B- ?

Lineup (8 )

CF- Denard Span
2B- Robinson Cano
LF- Bryce Harper
1B- Ryan Zimmerman
RF- Jayson Werth
SS- Ian Desmond
3B- Anthony Rendon
C- Wilson Ramos

Wow. What a lineup.


Is that really the order you'd go with?  3 lefties followed by 5 righties?  I think it would be more like:

Span
Werth
Harper
Zim
Cano
Desmond
Ramos
Rendon

Or

Werth
Cano
Zim
Harper
Desmond
Rendon
Span
Ramos

Total speculation, since I don't think we'll be in on Cano anyway.

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Re: Offseason moves?
« Reply #1605 on: December 03, 2013, 09:13:51 am »
Nats tender contracts to Strasburg, Zimmermann, Desmond, Storen, Clippard, Detwiler, and Ramos.

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Re: Offseason moves?
« Reply #1606 on: December 03, 2013, 11:42:16 am »
Why would they re-sign Ohlendorf?

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« Reply #1607 on: December 03, 2013, 12:14:19 pm »
Why would they re-sign Ohlendorf?

Pitching depth. Detwiler has shown injury issues, Strasburg struggled to stay completely healthy last year, and Jordan Zimmermann has had TJS before. No such thing as too much starting pitching.

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« Reply #1608 on: December 03, 2013, 12:27:58 pm »
Rizzo just held a conference call, some highlights:

http://natsinsider.com/2013/12/03/rizzo-on-fister-trade-5th-starter-and-more/

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Q: Was Fister the guy you targeted all along?
Rizzo: “We really had identified Doug as our primary acquisition target as far as starting pitchers go, thought he was an undervalued asset. We thought that we had really strong scouting reports from our scouts in the field, we had extremely strong sabermetrics reports from our analysts here in the office. A guy that I’ve seen pitch over the years and I’ve scouted personally at times and fit the criteria that we were looking for for one of our rotation starters: a big, physical pitcher that takes the ball and logs innings and has had success at the most crucial times in a team’s season. So, we like the entire package with him. We also liked that he had multiple years of control and a guy that we think can grow with the Nationals.”

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Q: Were you willing to trade away top young prospects like Anthony Rendon or Lucas Giolito?
Rizzo: “We made it clear to the industry we weren’t going to part with a handful of players, some of them you just mentioned. To do a deal, to get a caliber of pitcher like Doug Fister with the makeup he has and the track record he has, we’re excited. We gave up three fine players to get him. You have to give to get. We felt that it was a fair baseball deal. The trade did what they felt they had to do. And we filled the need we thought we needed to fill.”

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Q: How do you view the No. 5 spot in the rotation? Is it Ross Detwiler’s if healthy?
Rizzo: “We feel that we’ve got the resources to have a quality guy sitting down there. I think the difference this year from previous years, we’ve got great depth at that spot. When you talk about Detwiler and [Tanner] Roark and Taylor Jordan and [Nate] Karns and [Sammy] Solis, and then the younger wave of guys that could get here in the future, we feel good about where we’re at. It was one of the reasons we felt it made it possible to move a Robbie Ray in a trade, because we have starting pitching depth close to the major leagues. That’s what made it comfortable for us to move a talented, young, left-handed pitcher in Robbie Ray.”

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Q: What’s left on your offseason agenda?
Rizzo: “I don’t think much has changed since we started the offseason. We feel that we’d like to tweak the bullpen a little bit. We’d like to help the bench a little bit. We wanted to address the rotation, which we’ve done. We still have some work to do. Like I said, we’re not a flawless team, but we think that we have a good, talented ballclub, and I think that going into the Winter Meetings we like the construction of the roster and the makeup of the ballclub. We’re going to do what we have to do to improve ourselves, and we think that we’ve taken a step towards that with the acquisition of Fister. But we’re certainly not going to be content with that. We’re going to do what we have to do to make us better.”

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Q: What’s the plan for Danny Espinosa?
Rizzo: “Danny Espinosa is going to go to spring training and battle for a job on the roster. He’s an excellent defender, Gold Glove caliber at second base and shortstop. He gives us speed, he stole 20 bases in the big leagues in a season so far. He hit 20 home runs in a season so far in his young big-league career. He had a down season last year, but this guy’s a makeup guy. He’s a grinder, and a guy that his personality and his makeup plays well on this club. I’ve always been a Danny Espinosa fan and I still am, and I think he’s going to have a good major-league career.”

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Q: How important is it to add a left-hander to your bullpen?
Rizzo: “We think that’s one of the things we have to address. We have in-house options there. I think we’re better-suited going into spring training with our left-handed bullpen than we did last year. But it’s something that we’re looking into the free agent market or the trade market and trying to upgrade. It’s a spot that we feel that we have to upgrade at. That said, I think we have some in-house options that can perform at a high level for us.”

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Re: Offseason moves?
« Reply #1609 on: December 03, 2013, 01:37:51 pm »
He made a good trade :shrug: I still think he's average to above average,  the guy he supposedly fleeced has had a team in the world series or ALCS three years running,  so maybe there's more to this from Detroit's point of view

He's above average and took this team to 100 wins a year ago. At least their showing they want to win. My perspective is from a fan. Not really someone who doesn't like the nats or capitals.

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« Reply #1610 on: December 03, 2013, 02:15:37 pm »
He's above average and took this team to 100 wins a year ago. At least their showing they want to win. My perspective is from a fan. Not really someone who doesn't like the nats or capitals.

what do the capitals have to do with anything?

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Re: Offseason moves?
« Reply #1611 on: December 03, 2013, 03:11:50 pm »
Nats need to jump on this guy, get him rehabbed and have a true 5_aces_r_u_kidding_me? type rotation,

Once again... this needs to get done.

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« Reply #1612 on: December 03, 2013, 03:42:41 pm »
Once again... this needs to get done.

I read that Hudson and the Diamondbacks were working on a multi-year deal.

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Re: Offseason moves?
« Reply #1613 on: December 03, 2013, 05:14:29 pm »
How would you guys feel about bringing in Brian Wilson so that we could flip Storen/Soriano for something in a trade?

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Re: Offseason moves?
« Reply #1614 on: December 03, 2013, 05:21:14 pm »
How would you guys feel about bringing in Brian Wilson so that we could flip Storen/Soriano for something in a trade?

He is re-signing with the Dodgers.

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Re: Offseason moves?
« Reply #1615 on: December 03, 2013, 05:24:47 pm »
Not a done deal yet

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« Reply #1616 on: December 03, 2013, 05:34:45 pm »
I read that Hudson and the Diamondbacks were working on a multi-year deal.

They were until they non-tendered him.

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« Reply #1617 on: December 03, 2013, 05:39:39 pm »
They were until they non-tendered him.

That doesn't keep them from reaching an agreement. It just makes Hudson a free agent.

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Re: Offseason moves?
« Reply #1618 on: December 03, 2013, 05:45:16 pm »
Is there any reason for him not to at least test the waters?

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« Reply #1619 on: December 03, 2013, 05:50:26 pm »
Is there any reason for him not to at least test the waters?

None. But what is the market for a guy that's blown out his UCL in each of the past two seasons.


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« Reply #1620 on: December 03, 2013, 05:52:59 pm »
None. But what is the market for a guy that's blown out his UCL in each of the past two seasons.



I don't know, but probably better if there is more than one interested bidder

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« Reply #1621 on: December 03, 2013, 06:02:20 pm »
I don't know, but probably better if there is more than one interested bidder

Not if he can't get a MLB contract.

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Re: Offseason moves?
« Reply #1622 on: December 03, 2013, 06:31:54 pm »
Nats need to jump on this guy, get him rehabbed and have a true 5_aces_r_u_kidding_me? type rotation,
Once again... this needs to get done.
100% on board with this. But I wonder what it would take.

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Re: Offseason moves?
« Reply #1623 on: December 03, 2013, 07:46:34 pm »
Nats need to jump on this guy, get him rehabbed and have a true 5_aces_r_u_kidding_me? type rotation,

You want five aces, we gotta get Price

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Re: Offseason moves?
« Reply #1624 on: December 03, 2013, 08:17:04 pm »
You want five aces, we gotta get Price
At this point that would be over kill but freak it, I'm all in for David Price.