Author Topic: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 1 (Read 32594 times)

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #400 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:21:08 pm »

Quote from: KnorrForYourMoney on April 05, 2010, 03:20:15 pm

What are you talking about? You said "following the rules." Please show me this rule that says: "the strike zone will be totally precise at all times without exception." It's discretionary.

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The STRIKE ZONE is that area over home plate the upper limit of which is a horizontal line at the midpoint between the top of the shoulders and the top of the uniform pants, and the lower level is a line at the hollow beneath the knee cap. The Strike Zone shall be determined from the batter's stance as the batter is prepared to swing at a pitched ball.

rodlang · « **Reply #401 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:21:38 pm »

The problem with the Nats pitchers is they all throw junk...have to be very fine with it and when they get into a wild streak and HAVE to throw a strike, they get hammered. Who is the hardest thrower on the staff right now? Does anyone throw a cutter which seems to be the new unhittable pitch in baseball? I guess Stammen throws reasonably hard but he has to keep the ball down. None of the Nats pitchers have any room for error and a good hitting team like the Phils eat them up and spit em out.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #402 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:21:47 pm »

Halladay is going to have a ridiculous year this year.

wpa2629 · « **Reply #403 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:22:20 pm »

So, I'm listening to this game, but totally not paying attention. Sorry to hijack the game thread all, but it's opening day and I wanted to engage in some interesting conversation and this game blows, sigh

fersaltiel · « **Reply #404 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:22:28 pm »

This team blows. What plan are we talking about? God, I just hate them. What a waste ...

EdStroud · « **Reply #405 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:23:17 pm »

BUNIONS!!!

wpa2629 · « **Reply #406 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:23:22 pm »

Quote from: rodlang on April 05, 2010, 03:21:38 pm

The problem with the Nats pitchers is they all throw junk...have to be very fine with it and when they get into a wild streak and HAVE to throw a strike, they get hammered. Who is the hardest thrower on the staff right now? Does anyone throw a cutter which seems to be the new unhittable pitch in baseball? I guess Stammen throws reasonably hard but he has to keep the ball down. None of the Nats pitchers have any room for error and a good hitting team like the Phils eat them up and spit em out.

Sure, but that's not a surprise, right? I mean it's painful, but it's not exactly surprising.

natsfan4evr · « **Reply #407 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:23:39 pm »

Quote from: Southeast Jerome on April 05, 2010, 03:20:51 pm

Oh I would expect 100 more of these games this season. It's going to be brutal.

If this keeps up, Strasburg and Storen better be called up. This is just one game. Let's see how we are after 7...it's hard to be worse than 0-7.

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #408 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:24:05 pm »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on April 05, 2010, 03:21:08 pm

see above

Yes, please show me the guarantee of precision there. Hell, it doesn't even specify the area of home plate that determines the call. Is it the front of the plate, the back side, or does it have to be over at least 50% of it?

skippy1999 · « **Reply #409 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:24:36 pm »

Quote from: EdStroud on April 05, 2010, 03:12:58 pm

Batista reminds me of "Iodine" Tavarez from last year

Hey now don't talk bad about my boy Julian! (He had a few good moments for you guys!)

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #410 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:25:09 pm »

Quote from: KnorrForYourMoney on April 05, 2010, 03:24:05 pm

Yes, please show me the guarantee of precision there. Hell, it doesn't even specify the area of home plate that determines the call. Is it the front of the plate, the back side, or does it have to be over at least 50% of it?

you're right, surely there is no way to tell is a ball crosses home plate at a given height.

rodlang · « **Reply #411 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:25:21 pm »

Desmond overmatched by a guy like Halladay but he has to take his lumps and learn how to hit the best pitchers.

asindc · « **Reply #412 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:25:23 pm »

Quote from: fersaltiel on April 05, 2010, 03:22:28 pm

This team blows. What plan are we talking about? God, I just hate them. What a waste ...

Well, it is the Phillies, not the Pirates. Still a lot more baseball to be played.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #413 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:25:39 pm »

Where the hell is Morse? He's the teams best pinch hitter.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #414 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:25:41 pm »

Oooh, Milledge gets an RBI

EdStroud · « **Reply #415 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:26:08 pm »

Quote from: skippy1999 on April 05, 2010, 03:24:36 pm

Hey now don't talk bad about my boy Julian! (He had a few good moments for you guys!)

mannerism on mound

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #416 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:27:07 pm »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on April 05, 2010, 03:25:09 pm

you're right, surely there is no way to tell is a ball crosses home plate at a given height.

I'm asking at which part of home plate does it have to be at the specified height?

Okay, so it has to be from below the kneecaps to the letters. Well, where? What if the ball crosses that plane at the very backside of home plate, even though it was too high as it was over 95% of the plate?

ronnynat · « **Reply #417 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:27:28 pm »

Quote from: wpa2629 on April 05, 2010, 03:20:41 pm

No, it doesn't. The batter's position may change, but his strike zone would not. It's on him if he wants to move closer to the plate, or further from the plate. The strike zone is established by the height of the player as it relates to the HOME PLATE, an always stationary object, not as it relates to the batter's position.

The low part of the strike zone never changes for a player, but the top part can.

A player's height has nothing to do with it. A tall player can bend down and change his strike zone.

skippy1999 · « **Reply #418 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:27:32 pm »

Quote from: EdStroud on April 05, 2010, 03:26:08 pm

mannerism on mound

Gotcha, I thought you meant the less than stellar pitching

HerndonNat · « **Reply #419 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:28:29 pm »

Well glad I didn't leave work early to watch this.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #420 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:28:43 pm »

I love that Riggs is burning through the bullpen in a 11-1 game.

Nice.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #421 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:29:25 pm »

Ryan Church with a 3 run double... sorry, just had to post it in this thread.

JMUalumni · « **Reply #422 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:30:23 pm »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on April 05, 2010, 03:28:43 pm

I love that Riggs is burning through the bullpen in a 11-1 game.

Nice.

I actually think it is a smart move to get Burnett out there. He had a bad spring, you want him to try to get things going before you start using him in meaningful situations. Also, they have a day off tomorrow. Not really a big deal.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #423 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:30:23 pm »

Quote from: KnorrForYourMoney on April 05, 2010, 03:27:07 pm

I'm asking at which part of home plate does it have to be at the specified height?

Okay, so it has to be from below the kneecaps to the letters. Well, where? What if the ball crosses that plane at the very backside of home plate, even though it was too high as it was over 95% of the plate?

then what does the ump base the calls on? Baseball already trusts the technolog enough to use it to score umps, why not just use it.

Zoidberg · « **Reply #424 on:** April 05, 2010, 03:30:24 pm »

jesus christ lannan wtf. thankfully hell never start another opening day again. it gets painful to watch us go to the bullpen with batista, bergmann, and then the likes of walker, capps.

damn phillies fans who never watched baseball till october 08. its tough when most of the city is orioles fans and other cities fans. we get it your home town is boring and not important at all so you have to come to a real city like d.c. to make a living. no need to boo your new cities players.

this will all change tho once we get harper and strasburg up and we get a bunch of bandwagon fans ala the capitals.