O-Dog (Orlando Hudson)

[JMW IV]

Uggla is a one-dimensional offensive player who plays crap defense.

we've already filled our quota for those with our first baseman.

where is all your Uggla love coming from? and why are you the only one? I wonder.

[blue911]

30 times a season Uggla helps his team offensively. The other 600 or so at bats he totally blows. 9 inning every freaking game you have to worry if his lazy ass is going to be able to field his position at a little league level.

[houston-nat]

Yeah, they ended up in the bottom ten. I think they were top 10 in the first half.

They were #1 for like a month.

[houston-nat]

Aha so Ronnynat is actually Madeline Kahn!

I'm ... so ... tired!

[aspenbubba]

leaders, but for fielding percentage, Zone Rating and Range Factor, Flop was behind Uggla in all of them and near the bottom in all but range factor where he was in the middle of the pack. Uggla was near the bottom too in all but range factor where he was actually among the
Not that it makes any difference, Flop hates DC.

Correction, DC hates Flop

[DPMOmaha]

Correction, DC hates Flop

It seemed as though the feeling was mutual.

[The Chief]

Correction, DC hates Flop

He earned it.

[cmdterps44]

Dirty, tell us how Uggla is good at defense? People have obviously given stats behind their opinions yet you keep trashing Ronnie Belliard instead. Uggla may have a good 'power' bat, but does he hit consistent? Last year he had a .240 BA.

Out of all 2nd basemen last year he came in 3rd to last at FP% and came in 2nd to last with amount of errors at 2nd. This is for the whole season with people starting a certain amount of games at second. I would try to post more stats but don't really know how to read anything else He has a decent power bat, but we already have one of those in Dunn... yet he hits more than Uggla.

I wouldn't be upset if somehow we got him but we need defense considering we had Guzman at short and a mix of 2nd basemen last year who couldn't get the job done. Hudson did better last year defensively and avg's 280 ba. I wouldn't be opposed to that.

[tomterp]

Uggla is a one-dimensional offensive player who plays crap defense.

we've already filled our quota for those with our first baseman.

Dunn has two dimensions - on-base and power.

[dirtynat]

Dirty, tell us how Uggla is good at defense? People have obviously given stats behind their opinions yet you keep trashing Ronnie Belliard instead. Uggla may have a good 'power' bat, but does he hit consistent? Last year he had a .240 BA.

Out of all 2nd basemen last year he came in 3rd to last at FP% and came in 2nd to last with amount of errors at 2nd. This is for the whole season with people starting a certain amount of games at second. He has a decent power bat, but we already have one of those in Dunn... yet he hits more than Uggla.

I wouldn't be greatly upset if somehow we got him but we need defense... considering we had Guzman at short and a mix of 2nd basemen last year who couldn't get the job done.

Guy is a .260 hitter and 30 homer a year guy in that cavernous park.  Strikeouts have come down.  Only 29.  

http://espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=6462

[cmdterps44]

Guy is a .260 hitter and 30 homer a year guy.  Strikeouts have come down.  Only 29. 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=6462

Ok, hes got offense. I know that. How does this answer my question about defense though?

[Evolution33]

Guy is a .260 hitter and 30 homer a year guy.  Strikeouts have come down.  Only 29. 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=6462

A good offense is not a good defense. It is a good offense.

[dirtynat]

Ok, hes got offense. I know that. How does this answer my question about defense though?

Who cares?  He's not great.  But we had Fat Ronny and Ian Desmond there last year.  Both worse than Uggla defensively.  His offense far outweighs his defense.  

This is a weird question.  Offense is way more important than defense.  This is like saying you don't want Steve Nash as your point guard, even though he is the best PG in the NBA. 

[NatsDad14]

they were in the top half in nearly every offensive category until september when Dunn and Willingham nosedived.

gmu - what is the more pressing need? 30 hrs and nothing else from Uggla, or solid defense, a decent avg/obp and 10 hrs from someone else?

The more pressing need is a better player. We are not the Yankees where we can sacrifice offense for defense because we have so much power. The Nationals had an average at best offense last year. They still have a long ways to go to catch the Phillies offense.

[tomterp]

Who cares?  He's not great.  But we had Fat Ronny and Ian Desmond there last year.  Both worse than Uggla defensively.  His offense far outweighs his defense. 

If you keep up this Ugla love, you're going to draw NatsAddict out of his cave, and he's going to unleash a rant  the likes of which you've not experienced before.  Just saying......

[cmdterps44]

Who cares?  He's not great.  But we had Fat Ronny and Ian Desmond there last year.  Both worse than Uggla defensively.  His offense far outweighs his defense. 

That's what the discussion was about. We need defense up there. We saw how that worked last year and we let up alot of hits which let up more runs. Saying his offense equals his defense given up is silly. How do we know he hits in the important situations? I should be saying I because I haven't watched him alot to necessarily say he hits in clutch or non clutch situations but Id like someone to clear that up.

Having a guy who can hit like that isn't something we need when we could sign Hudson who has good defense and a good bat... but like I said, I wouldn't be upset if we got Uggla that is if we didn't trade alot for him.

[ronnynat]

The more pressing need is a better player. We are not the Yankees where we can sacrifice offense for defense because we have so much power. The Nationals had an average at best offense last year. They still have a long ways to go to catch the Phillies offense.

If our guys stay healthy, Morgan playing a full season for us should help A LOT and Flores/Pudge is a lot better than Bard/Nieves. I'm expecting our offense to be top 10 this year. Our pitching will probably still be bottom 5, though.

[Vega]

If we got Uggla, couldn't we just stick him out in left field and trade Dukes or Hammer?

[sportsfan882]

Why does everyone act like the Nats had a real good offense? They don't. They were actually below average last season.

QFT. We were through several terrible droughts where we weren't scoring anything.

Dunn, Willingham, and others faded in the last few months.

[dirtynat]

That's what the discussion was about. We need defense up there. We saw how that worked last year and we let up alot of hits which let up more runs. Saying his offense equals his defense given up is silly. How do we know he hits in the important situations? I should be saying I because I haven't watched him alot to necessarily say he hits in clutch or non clutch situations but Id like someone to clear that up.

Having a guy who can hit like that isn't something we need when we could sign Hudson who has good defense and a good bat... but like I said, I wouldn't be upset if we got Uggla that is if we didn't trade alot for him.

So you are saying 35 homers is less important than 20 errors? 

[tomterp]

So you are saying 35 homers is less important than 20 errors? 

Nobody would say that, but since when were errors the critical thing about fielding?  Getting to balls, ie range, is what counts the most, and is why Zimmerman is such an oustanding fielding third baseman. 

[cmdterps44]

So you are saying 35 homers is less important than 20 errors?  

No but are you ignoring that 34 of those homers might have come in a useless situation? What if the Marlins were down 5-0 and Uggla hit a homer? Its putting up one run. One run is nice. It could spark some offense and give them a chance but what if in an earlier situation he had 2 men on with 1 out and hit into a DP or struck out? Id like to know how he hit in situations like that to get to know his offense more. Runs are runs. They are good to have but Id like to know aside from hitting those homers, has he knocked people in or does he get base hits with people on?

[Lintyfresh85]

QFT. We were through several terrible droughts where we weren't scoring anything.

Dunn, Willingham, and others faded in the last few months.

Zimm hit .221 in September/October.

Stop showing your bias.

[Vega]

One of Uggla's problems is that he is a classic case of Captain Solo Shot Syndrome.

[dirtynat]

No but are you ignoring that 34 of those homers might have come in a useless situation? What if the Marlins were down 5-0 and Uggla hit a homer? Its putting up one run. One run is nice. It could spark some offense and give them a chance but what if in an earlier situation he had 2 men on with 1 out and hit into a DP or struck out? Id like to know how he hit in situations like that to get to know his offense more. Runs are runs. They are good to have but Id like to know aside from hitting those homers, has he knocked people in or does he get base hits with people on?

And 15 of those errors might have come in the same situation.