Author Topic: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing (Read 116090 times)

blue911 · « **Reply #1025 on:** December 28, 2009, 04:38:22 pm »

Quote from: PatsNats09 on December 28, 2009, 04:25:26 pm

well he went to stanford, so he's obviously smart. maybe he can teach dukes some stuff

Like how to pick up hookers?

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #1026 on:** December 28, 2009, 09:14:01 pm »

Quote from: blue911 on December 28, 2009, 04:38:22 pm

Like how to pick up hookers?

Dukes is the student, not the teacher. Then again, as I heard somewhere (paraphrased and uncited), "teaching is learning".

houston-nat · « **Reply #1027 on:** December 28, 2009, 10:29:26 pm »

If the Diamondbacks sign Kelly Johnson, would we be interested in trading for Augie Ojeda? The guy's only ever been a backup and has no bat to speak of, but he plays 2B and SS pretty well defensively, as far as I know (1.000 fielding % at 2B in 2009, over 30+ games). Might be the super defender we want to complement Dunn and Desmond/Guzman, but who knows if he could be decent full-time. The price would be low if Johnson joins Arizona - Ojeda would essentially be out of a job...

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #1028 on:** December 28, 2009, 10:43:03 pm »

UZR/150 is 51.3, very solid.

blue911 · « **Reply #1029 on:** December 29, 2009, 07:39:19 am »

Quote from: PatsNats09 on December 28, 2009, 09:14:01 pm

Dukes is the student, not the teacher. Then again, as I heard somewhere (paraphrased and uncited), "teaching is learning".

It was a veiled Eldrick reference.

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #1030 on:** December 29, 2009, 08:41:51 am »

Eldrick as in Tiger Woods?

Ah I see (Wikipedia'd him). Did not know he went to Stanford.

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #1031 on:** December 29, 2009, 09:04:50 am »

This is kinda random, but I didn't really know where to put it. Has anyone else noticed that mlb.com articles and other major baseball news outlets have started using UZR, FIP, and WAR? I've particularly noticed it on mlb.com, but I've seen it on a few others. Like in a Gold Glove article a month back, I noticed they said that Gutierrez had the highest UZR/150 but didn't get a gold glove. I've seen a few more, especially with WAR.

tomterp · « **Reply #1032 on:** December 29, 2009, 09:11:40 am »

Quote from: PatsNats09 on December 29, 2009, 09:04:50 am

This is kinda random, but I didn't really know where to put it. Has anyone else noticed that mlb.com articles and other major baseball news outlets have started using UZR, FIP, and WAR? I've particularly noticed it on mlb.com, but I've seen it on a few others. Like in a Gold Glove article a month back, I noticed they said that Gutierrez had the highest UZR/150 but didn't get a gold glove. I've seen a few more, especially with WAR.

It's a conspiracy to really piss off Blue.

epic_phalanx · « **Reply #1033 on:** December 29, 2009, 09:52:26 am »

Quote from: PatsNats09 on December 29, 2009, 09:04:50 am

This is kinda random, but I didn't really know where to put it. Has anyone else noticed that mlb.com articles and other major baseball news outlets have started using UZR, FIP, and WAR? I've particularly noticed it on mlb.com, but I've seen it on a few others. Like in a Gold Glove article a month back, I noticed they said that Gutierrez had the highest UZR/150 but didn't get a gold glove. I've seen a few more, especially with WAR.

Now we just need to spread the word about xFIP and the world will be a better place..

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #1034 on:** December 29, 2009, 10:50:02 am »

Bobby Howry signed with Arizona for a year at $2m.

Are we set with Bruney and Clippard as the RH set up / middle guys and Burnett / Guardado as the primary lefties getting to Capps? Bergie as the MR / low leverage long man, and X as the 12th man on the staff? Seems weird to have so many roles pretty much settled. I guess we have our option As for 6 bullpen roles, and figure to scoop up a few left overs just before spring training on minor league contracts to hold in Pawtucket in case any of the option As get hurt or go Hanrahan on us at the start of the year.

tomterp · « **Reply #1035 on:** December 29, 2009, 11:17:45 am »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on December 29, 2009, 10:50:02 am

Bobby Howry signed with Arizona for a year at $2m.

Are we set with Bruney and Clippard as the RH set up / middle guys and Burnett / Guardado as the primary lefties getting to Capps? Bergie as the MR / low leverage long man, and X as the 12th man on the staff? Seems weird to have so many roles pretty much settled. I guess we have our option As for 6 bullpen roles, and figure to scoop up a few left overs just before spring training on minor league contracts to hold in Pawtucket in case any of the option As get hurt or go Hanrahan on us at the start of the year.

What about Balester? Lots of bullpen talk with him factoring in.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #1036 on:** December 29, 2009, 11:38:59 am »

Quote from: tomterp on December 29, 2009, 11:17:45 am

What about Balester? Lots of bullpen talk with him factoring in.

does he have any options left? most of the guys above will be gone at the trade deadline if they are having decent seasons

blue911 · « **Reply #1037 on:** December 29, 2009, 11:42:11 am »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on December 29, 2009, 11:38:59 am

does he have any options left? most of the guys above will be gone at the trade deadline if they are having decent seasons

He has one option year.

houston-nat · « **Reply #1038 on:** December 29, 2009, 12:13:58 pm »

JCA, it's Syracuse, not Pawtucket, my friend.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #1039 on:** December 29, 2009, 12:28:10 pm »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on December 29, 2009, 10:50:02 am

Are we set with Bruney and Clippard as the RH set up / middle guys and Burnett / Guardado as the primary lefties getting to Capps? Bergie as the MR / low leverage long man, and X as the 12th man on the staff? Seems weird to have so many roles pretty much settled. I guess we have our option As for 6 bullpen roles, and figure to scoop up a few left overs just before spring training on minor league contracts to hold in Pawtucket in case any of the option As get hurt or go Hanrahan on us at the start of the year.

Bruney still wants to be the closer.

Quote

Brian Bruney told MLB.com's Bill Ladson on Monday that he would "prefer to close" next season for the Nationals.

"I think as a reliever, that is the ultimate goal," said Bruney. "I think if you are not a starter, the closer is the coolest job. That's what I did from Day 1, when I got drafted. I'm sure that's what [Nats GM] Mike Rizzo knows me as." He'll have to put on a show this spring to beat out Matt Capps for the gig. A setup role seems more realistic for Bruney and is probably a better fit anyway.

Source: Nationals.mlb.com

tomterp · « **Reply #1040 on:** December 29, 2009, 12:31:40 pm »

Quote from: houston-nat on December 29, 2009, 12:13:58 pm

JCA, it's Syracuse, not Pawtucket, my friend.

He's struggling against those inner demons.

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #1041 on:** December 29, 2009, 01:05:49 pm »

Quote from: epic_phalanx on December 29, 2009, 09:52:26 am

Now we just need to spread the word about xFIP and the world will be a better place..

FIP is a stupid stat IMO, since most of the data is disregarded. My new favorite stat is wOBA.

blue911 · « **Reply #1042 on:** December 29, 2009, 01:25:08 pm »

Quote from: PatsNats09 on December 29, 2009, 01:05:49 pm

FIP is a stupid stat IMO, since most of the data is disregarded. My new favorite stat is wOBA.

wOBA sounds like something Pete Palmer came up with.

epic_phalanx · « **Reply #1043 on:** December 29, 2009, 03:44:28 pm »

Quote from: PatsNats09 on December 29, 2009, 01:05:49 pm

FIP is a stupid stat IMO, since most of the data is disregarded. My new favorite stat is wOBA.

xFIP is a better predictor of pitching skill than either ERA, FIP, or tRA, according to THT.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/how-well-can-we-predict-era/

hammondsnats · « **Reply #1044 on:** December 29, 2009, 05:03:40 pm »

This will be a great offseason if we can get both Orlando Hudson and Jon Garland. But again, I'm pretty happy with the moves we've made thus far.

I can Throw · « **Reply #1045 on:** December 29, 2009, 05:14:51 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on December 29, 2009, 05:03:40 pm

This will be a great offseason if we can get both Orlando Hudson and Jon Garland. But again, I'm pretty happy with the moves we've made thus far.

Do we still have a shot with Garland? I thought he wanted West Coast only.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #1046 on:** December 29, 2009, 05:15:29 pm »

no. we have no shot at Garland.

epic_phalanx · « **Reply #1047 on:** December 29, 2009, 05:19:52 pm »

Doug Davis is like the left-handed Garland. He'll probably sign a one year deal.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #1048 on:** December 29, 2009, 05:23:58 pm »

Quote from: epic_phalanx on December 29, 2009, 05:19:52 pm

Doug Davis is like the left-handed Garland. He'll probably sign a one year deal.

Or, Joel Piniero! I don't think I can pimp out that guys name anymore than I have this off-season!

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #1049 on:** December 29, 2009, 05:24:58 pm »

no thanks to Doug Davis. I'd rather go with Detwiler.