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The Clubhouse / Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Last post by imref on January 20, 2025, 03:50:02 pm »
Not being in on Santander for $90M feels like a huge middle finger to the fans. He was an easy fit here, switch hitting power, moves Young to 4th OF, late inning defensive replacement and pinch runner role. 29th in payroll is an embarrassment in a market like DC.  They really need to sell the team if they have no willingness to pay for a competitive product. Maybe we need a “sell the team” chant at the the upcoming hot stove, just the Pirates fans did.

I also worry that the Stras handling might make FAs less willing to sign here. They can solve that of course, but it means overpaying. If so, that’s a cost they saddled themselves with by being cheap jerks.
:clap:

Seems obvious 2025 is just going to be a development year versus one in which we try to compete for a playoff spot.
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The Clubhouse / Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Last post by rbw5t on January 20, 2025, 03:07:35 pm »
Not being in on Santander for $90M feels like a huge middle finger to the fans. He was an easy fit here, switch hitting power, moves Young to 4th OF, late inning defensive replacement and pinch runner role. 29th in payroll is an embarrassment in a market like DC.  They really need to sell the team if they have no willingness to pay for a competitive product. Maybe we need a “sell the team” chant at the the upcoming hot stove, just the Pirates fans did.

I also worry that the Stras handling might make FAs less willing to sign here. They can solve that of course, but it means overpaying. If so, that’s a cost they saddled themselves with by being cheap jerks.
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The Clubhouse / Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Last post by Slateman on January 20, 2025, 02:30:37 pm »
Yes. It's possible that the Nats just aren't viewed as a one piece away team by the top FAs so they will need to spend stupid money to land a Bregman/Santander, but more likely they just aren't bidding.  It's one more year of "Let's see the kids fill holes." The downside is that Gore, Garcia, and Abrams are gone or signed to FA contracts before the window opens.
You have to overspend. Frankly, we aren't any worse off than the Blue Jays, and they're getting Santander for under 100 million. That should have been well within our spending ability. Don't waste your money on Soroka and Bell, and you're basically there this season.

And this opens up options. You don't need Jacob Young, so package him, Morales, and another prospect to the Pirates for Mitch Keller. Don't need Trevor Williams anymore either. crap, you could probably add another prospect and take Hayes off the Pirates. Give Abrams half a season to show defensive improvement, otherwise move him to another position and play Nunez.
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The Clubhouse / Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Last post by JCA-CrystalCity on January 20, 2025, 01:49:06 pm »
You're right. But ownership is clearly refusing to invest in the team
Yes. It's possible that the Nats just aren't viewed as a one piece away team by the top FAs so they will need to spend stupid money to land a Bregman/Santander, but more likely they just aren't bidding.  It's one more year of "Let's see the kids fill holes." The downside is that Gore, Garcia, and Abrams are gone or signed to FA contracts before the window opens.
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The Red Loft / Re: NFL 2024-25
« Last post by Ali the Baseball Cat on January 20, 2025, 01:45:34 pm »
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The Out of Town Scoreboard / Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Last post by imref on January 20, 2025, 01:28:22 pm »
Dodgers sign Panamanian prospect Adrian Torres. LHP with a mid-90s FB already. Considered one of the top prospects this year.
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The Out of Town Scoreboard / Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Last post by imref on January 20, 2025, 01:22:02 pm »
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/01/blue-jays-to-sign-anthony-santander.html

can opt out after 4 years, BJs can void opt out by adding a year. No $ figure yet.

MLBTR:
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The deal is for more than $90MM, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. Per Alexander, Santander is actually guaranteed $92.5MM with the ability to get to $110MM, though the deferrals will lower the net present value somewhat. The specifics of those deferrals aren’t publicly known.
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The Clubhouse / Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Last post by Natsinpwc on January 20, 2025, 01:00:34 pm »
Glad the Blue Jays got someone. 

And yes the Nats should have been in on that.  Team needs power. 
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The Red Loft / Re: NFL 2024-25
« Last post by Natsinpwc on January 20, 2025, 12:59:50 pm »
my dislike for Harbaugh is he's a whiny little turd. He whined about a spread formation the Pats ran against him where the tackle was split lie an H back on the line (and covered by a wideout) so his team lined up with a DB over the phony slot guy. He then called up the Colts about the balls that were soft due to the cold. That's the genesis of the Ballghazi investigation that led to Jimmy G and later Jacob Brissett's starts in the 1st 4 games before the Pats 5th super bowl win. I'm always happy that everyone associated with that farce has had no post-season success since then
Good to be petty sometimes.  I'm rooting against Ohio State tonight just because of Chip Kelly. 
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The Clubhouse / Re: 2025 Off-season - general thread
« Last post by Slateman on January 20, 2025, 12:59:43 pm »
That Santander $90 million deal with Blue Jays feels like something Nats could and should have beat. But fact no one else beat that maybe the industry is more down on him than we realize?
You're right. But ownership is clearly refusing to invest in the team
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