2021-2022 Offseason Discussion/Signings/Trades/Rumors

[Natsinpwc]

Hernandez signs a one-year deal for four million

I believe he played some 3B for the Phillies way back then so can fill in there when they give up Kiebust.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

I understand the Nats can't fix everything in one off-season given the state of the farm system, but there were good deals to be made that could have either turned into long term options or be flipped at the deadline for a potential piece. Clint Frazier was literally a perfect fit.


Thing is about tanking in 2022, even a number one draft pick isn't going to be enough. Honestly, even with Bryant AND Taylor, this team might still compete for worst record. Thing is you turn it around a little bit faster if you sign those guys AND get a high draft pick.

this.  I mean, what makes anyone think that in 2023 the team will be able to instantly sign up enough talent to become a contender? If 2023 is the first year you start to build a base to allow the team to contend, then what makes anyone think that 2024, Soto's last year, we make the playoffs and go deep right away?

The team should be using its resources to constantly improve.  Upgrading at 1 or 2 positions, bringing in a mid-level starter, and getting a bullpen arm or two could have been done on a top  10 payroll, which is what the market can support.  Pitchers that could help didn't have to cost an arm and a leg.  Dedicating $20 million to pitching talent could have gotten 2 or 3 guys who could help.  That would only take the team up to ~$155 million in CBT commitments, which would give plenty of flexibility for other talent.   No excuse not to operate at a $175 million level. 

I'm really curious about whether the LErners are figuring the deferrals as hits to what Rizzo can spend this year and going forward.

[Natsinpwc]

this.  I mean, what makes anyone think that in 2023 the team will be able to instantly sign up enough talent to become a contender? If 2023 is the first year you start to build a base to allow the team to contend, then what makes anyone think that 2024, Soto's last year, we make the playoffs and go deep right away?

The team should be using its resources to constantly improve.  Upgrading at 1 or 2 positions, bringing in a mid-level starter, and getting a bullpen arm or two could have been done on a top  10 payroll, which is what the market can support.  Pitchers that could help didn't have to cost an arm and a leg.  Dedicating $20 million to pitching talent could have gotten 2 or 3 guys who could help.  That would only take the team up to ~$155 million in commitments, which would give plenty of flexibility for other talent.   No excuse not to operate at a $175 million level.

They signed Cesar Hernandez.  Be satisfied.  I am sure they will sign at least one starter.  And maybe a LF. 

[Mattionals]

this.  I mean, what makes anyone think that in 2023 the team will be able to instantly sign up enough talent to become a contender? If 2023 is the first year you start to build a base to allow the team to contend, then what makes anyone think that 2024, Soto's last year, we make the playoffs and go deep right away?

The team should be using its resources to constantly improve.  Upgrading at 1 or 2 positions, bringing in a mid-level starter, and getting a bullpen arm or two could have been done on a top  10 payroll, which is what the market can support.  Pitchers that could help didn't have to cost an arm and a leg.  Dedicating $20 million to pitching talent could have gotten 2 or 3 guys who could help.  That would only take the team up to ~$155 million in CBT commitments, which would give plenty of flexibility for other talent.   No excuse not to operate at a $175 million level. 

I'm really curious about whether the LErners are figuring the deferrals as hits to what Rizzo can spend this year and going forward.

This post is my vibe.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

They signed Cesar Hernandez.  Be satisfied.

I said upgrades. At least he can field.

[Natsinpwc]

I'm really curious about whether the LErners are figuring the deferrals as hits to what Rizzo can spend this year and going forward.

Of course they are.  I noted that this would happen several years ago.  Very predictable. 

[Natsinpwc]

I said upgrades. At least he can field.

He is an upgrade from Kiebust.  And probably at this stage also an upgrade from Garcia.  Gives them some flexibility and depth.

[Mattionals]

He is an upgrade from Kiebust.  And probably at this stage also an upgrade from Garcia.  Gives them some flexibility and depth.

What is the general consensus on Garcia at this point? Does he have MLB regular ability? Best case for him is he might be an All Star one year, or are we talking just a solid no-frills guy? Or is he just fringe?

[nfotiu]

this.  I mean, what makes anyone think that in 2023 the team will be able to instantly sign up enough talent to become a contender? If 2023 is the first year you start to build a base to allow the team to contend, then what makes anyone think that 2024, Soto's last year, we make the playoffs and go deep right away?

The team should be using its resources to constantly improve.  Upgrading at 1 or 2 positions, bringing in a mid-level starter, and getting a bullpen arm or two could have been done on a top  10 payroll, which is what the market can support.  Pitchers that could help didn't have to cost an arm and a leg.  Dedicating $20 million to pitching talent could have gotten 2 or 3 guys who could help.  That would only take the team up to ~$155 million in CBT commitments, which would give plenty of flexibility for other talent.   No excuse not to operate at a $175 million level. 

I'm really curious about whether the LErners are figuring the deferrals as hits to what Rizzo can spend this year and going forward.

I'm not going to judge too much yet.  It seems only some teams are being active in this pre-lockout frenzy, and it seems the Nats might be waiting to see what the new CBA looks like and when they play again.   

[zimm_da_kid]

Joey went is a 3 war player who can play short, 2b, and 3b. He has two more years of control.  Miami got him for just their #21 prospect.  How was there no better offer?  And why didn’t we get in on him?

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Joey went is a 3 war player who can play short, 2b, and 3b. He has two more years of control.  Miami got him for just their #21 prospect.  How was there no better offer?  And why didn’t we get in on him?

Autocorrect strikes Joey Wendle.   Another guy I wanted, and he's probably going to get the same money as Cesar Hernandez.  Deeply disappointed.  Granted, #21 in Miami's system might be #10 in ours, but Wendle would have been a nice fit here.  Hits as well as a good fielder.

[hotshot]

Joey went is a 3 war player who can play short, 2b, and 3b. He has two more years of control.  Miami got him for just their #21 prospect.  How was there no better offer?  And why didn’t we get in on him?

Miami is actually trying to win something.

[Mattionals]

Miami is actually trying to win something.

And unlike in years past, they seem to actually be trying to do things the right(?) way.

[Slateman]

Miami is actually trying to win something.

They're actually in a position to win.

[Natsinpwc]

They're actually in a position to win.

Win what? They have a good young pitching staff but not much of a lineup still. Can”t see them hanging with the Braves and Mets.

[Slateman]

Win what? They have a good young pitching staff but not much of a lineup still. Can”t see them hanging with the Braves and Mets.

Whole lot easier to get hitters

[madj55]

Chris Taylor going to re-sign with the Dodgers.

[Slateman]

Chris Taylor going to re-sign with the Dodgers.

https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1466157098010562563?s=21

[JCA-CrystalCity]

be curious at the end of the day just who hasn't signed. 

Rodon?  Bryant?  Story?  Kershaw? 

[Natsinpwc]

Chris Taylor going to re-sign with the Dodgers.

It’s ok folks. The Nats were in on him. That’s all that counts.

[imref]

be curious at the end of the day just who hasn't signed. 

Rodon?  Bryant?  Story?  Kershaw? 

Correa

[Slateman]

be curious at the end of the day just who hasn't signed. 

Rodon?  Bryant?  Story?  Kershaw? 

Correa, Schwarber, and Castellanos

[imref]

Correa, Schwarber, and Castellanos

Suero

[sixthree175]

this.  I mean, what makes anyone think that in 2023 the team will be able to instantly sign up enough talent to become a contender? If 2023 is the first year you start to build a base to allow the team to contend, then what makes anyone think that 2024, Soto's last year, we make the playoffs and go deep right away?

The team should be using its resources to constantly improve.  Upgrading at 1 or 2 positions, bringing in a mid-level starter, and getting a bullpen arm or two could have been done on a top  10 payroll, which is what the market can support.  Pitchers that could help didn't have to cost an arm and a leg.  Dedicating $20 million to pitching talent could have gotten 2 or 3 guys who could help.  That would only take the team up to ~$155 million in CBT commitments, which would give plenty of flexibility for other talent.   No excuse not to operate at a $175 million level. 

I'm really curious about whether the LErners are figuring the deferrals as hits to what Rizzo can spend this year and going forward. 

JCA, I believe you're biased because you're a season package holder. Winning will be an objective in 2023. 2022 is a REBUILDING year -- get used to it. 

[JCA-CrystalCity]

JCA, I believe you're biased because you're a season package holder. Winning will be an objective in 2023. 2022 is a REBUILDING year -- get used to it. 

not a sph anymore.

But, my basic point is that there is a difference between tanking and putting building blocks in place. I don't see the building blocks being put in place, nor do I see them even following last year's approach of bringing in flippable assets