Author Topic: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves (Read 118647 times)

Duke of Earl · « **Reply #1750 on:** March 20, 2019, 11:09:10 am »

Quote from: CoryTheFormerExposFan on March 20, 2019, 10:59:25 am

I guess if some people need to picture Harper miserable with jealousy to feel better so they can say "suck it" then whatever works for them.

To be clear, I have no idea how Harper feels about it and don't care. This is all about Boras as far as I'm concerned. He has been humiliated and I couldn't be happier.

Squab · « **Reply #1751 on:** March 20, 2019, 11:20:07 am »

Quote from: Duke of Earl on March 20, 2019, 11:09:10 am

To be clear, I have no idea how Harper feels about it and don't care. This is all about Boras as far as I'm concerned. He has been humiliated and I couldn't be happier.

I'm sure he is heartbroken

Duke of Earl · « **Reply #1752 on:** March 20, 2019, 11:24:35 am »

Quote from: Squab on March 20, 2019, 11:20:07 am

I'm sure he is heartbroken

"humiliated" is the word I used.

bluestreak · « **Reply #1753 on:** March 20, 2019, 11:44:07 am »

Quote from: Duke of Earl on March 20, 2019, 11:24:35 am

"humiliated" is the word I used.

In 2017 Scott Boras earned $108.3 million in commission on $1.9 billion in player contracts.

I’d take that humiliation...

aBaltoNat · « **Reply #1754 on:** March 20, 2019, 11:58:31 am »

Quote from: bluestreak on March 20, 2019, 11:44:07 am

In 2017 Scott Boras earned $108.3 million in commission on $1.9 billion in player contracts.

I’d take that humiliation...

That is incredible.

And to be clear, there's no headspace and rent issues here. Given that it was important for him to break a record, it's pretty funny that he had it for a week or so before it was crushed by someone he was publicly lobbying to come join him.

I'm sure he's enjoying his $340 but - it is pretty funny.

Elvir Ovcina · « **Reply #1755 on:** March 20, 2019, 12:07:24 pm »

Quote from: bluestreak on March 20, 2019, 10:55:51 am

For a minor league contract, I’d have brought back Gio. He’s not so great as a #3, but he’d be a good #5. And he’ll give you innings when we have a starter who always ends up on the DL.

Same, and I hate the little rodent. Nibble nibble at the corners, look scared of everything, but show up and take the ball every five days for 5 innings.

CoryTheFormerExposFan · « **Reply #1756 on:** March 20, 2019, 01:36:04 pm »

Gio is basically Hellickson at this point. We are creeping close to the Luxury Tax, and adding Gio may have prevented a move at the deadline that could've been made. At this point, I think Gio has no "bounce back" in him and it's all further decline. Him being Hellickson might be a best-case. I'm okay with Fedde/Ross for now if a replacement is needed, and then re-visit at the deadline if need be.

Gio also got himself an opt-out during April. Assuming our rotation stayed healthy to that point, he probably opts out after spending time in Florida anyway. If the Yankees get CC and Severino back as expected, and with German looking promising...he may never pitch for them and opt out there as well.

Elvir Ovcina · « **Reply #1757 on:** March 20, 2019, 04:24:08 pm »

Quote from: CoryTheFormerExposFan on March 20, 2019, 01:36:04 pm

Gio is basically Hellickson at this point. We are creeping close to the Luxury Tax, and adding Gio may have prevented a move at the deadline that could've been made. At this point, I think Gio has no "bounce back" in him and it's all further decline. Him being Hellickson might be a best-case. I'm okay with Fedde/Ross for now if a replacement is needed, and then re-visit at the deadline if need be.

Gio also got himself an opt-out during April. Assuming our rotation stayed healthy to that point, he probably opts out after spending time in Florida anyway. If the Yankees get CC and Severino back as expected, and with German looking promising...he may never pitch for them and opt out there as well.

Gio is significantly better than Hellickson in one important respect: he doesn't get hurt. Hellickson has made 30 or more starts in only 2 of the last 5 seasons. Gio's 4 for 5 in that regard, and the one time he missed it was with 27. Hellickson missed more starts last year than Gio did his entire time in DC.

sixthree175 · « **Reply #1758 on:** March 20, 2019, 08:50:07 pm »

Quote from: Elvir Ovcina on March 20, 2019, 04:24:08 pm

Gio is significantly better than Hellickson in one important respect: he doesn't get hurt. Hellickson has made 30 or more starts in only 2 of the last 5 seasons. Gio's 4 for 5 in that regard, and the one time he missed it was with 27. Hellickson missed more starts last year than Gio did his entire time in DC.

Yes, but Gio is useless in the post season. And sometimes the #5 starter is needed in the post season when one of the others is injured.

Duke of Earl · « **Reply #1759 on:** March 21, 2019, 10:59:08 am »

Quote from: Elvir Ovcina on March 20, 2019, 04:24:08 pm

Gio is significantly better than Hellickson in one important respect:

And I think Hellickson is significantly better in one important respect: he seems to have far more success than Gio once or twice through the lineup. Granted, his problem is getting past that point. Gio often doesn't make it past 5 innings because they get to him early.

aBaltoNat · « **Reply #1760 on:** March 21, 2019, 04:03:23 pm »

Not sure why Snell would sign a 5 yr, $50m contract. Would've thought he'd be worth more...but I guess 50 still sets you for life.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #1761 on:** March 21, 2019, 04:21:31 pm »

Quote from: aBaltoNat on March 21, 2019, 04:03:23 pm

Not sure why Snell would sign a 5 yr, $50m contract. Would've thought he'd be worth more...but I guess 50 still sets you for life.

He got more than either Severino or Nola.

UMDNats · « **Reply #1762 on:** March 21, 2019, 04:27:26 pm »

Quote from: aBaltoNat on March 21, 2019, 04:03:23 pm

Not sure why Snell would sign a 5 yr, $50m contract. Would've thought he'd be worth more...but I guess 50 still sets you for life.

he only gave up 1 year of FA and considering he's a SP who is about to make 500k this year and plays a position where one fluke arm injury ends your career, signing a $50 million deal seems really smart

aBaltoNat · « **Reply #1763 on:** March 21, 2019, 04:28:23 pm »

Goldy about to sign a $110M extension with the Cards.

UnkleWheez · « **Reply #1764 on:** March 21, 2019, 04:47:42 pm »

It seems the market is set. They need to extend Rendon.

aBaltoNat · « **Reply #1765 on:** March 21, 2019, 05:14:19 pm »

Quote from: UnkleWheez on March 21, 2019, 04:47:42 pm

It seems the market is set. They need to extend Rendon.

Yeah - I'm thinking it's between $125 and $150 at this point.

Squab · « **Reply #1766 on:** March 21, 2019, 05:16:26 pm »

Looks like about 130 for Goldy, Rendon is almost 3 years younger though, hmmm.

LoveAngelos · « **Reply #1767 on:** March 22, 2019, 10:46:29 pm »

WAR is nothing but a heart breaker, friend only to the mortuary and stat geeks

CoryTheFormerExposFan · « **Reply #1768 on:** March 25, 2019, 02:16:35 pm »

The Royals waived Brian Goodwin. Let's bring him back and leave Stevenson in AAA. Do we have room on the 40?

Elvir Ovcina · « **Reply #1769 on:** March 25, 2019, 02:41:33 pm »

Quote from: CoryTheFormerExposFan on March 25, 2019, 02:16:35 pm

The Royals waived Brian Goodwin. Let's bring him back and leave Stevenson in AAA. Do we have room on the 40?

Yes, there's one spot open. I'd also prefer Goodwin, but I wouldn't be surprised if he gets picked up. He is a decent option for an AL bench because he plays CF, but he also might have some fits in the NL if he gets that far (cough, Giants).

CoryTheFormerExposFan · « **Reply #1770 on:** March 25, 2019, 04:17:07 pm »

Quote from: Elvir Ovcina on March 25, 2019, 02:41:33 pm

Yes, there's one spot open. I'd also prefer Goodwin, but I wouldn't be surprised if he gets picked up. He is a decent option for an AL bench because he plays CF, but he also might have some fits in the NL if he gets that far (cough, Giants).

Yea I much prefer Goodwin to Stevenson. However, once MAT comes back really soon, Goodwin then doesn't really have a place here until/if someone else gets injured in the OF. So...probably not happening.

sixthree175 · « **Reply #1771 on:** March 25, 2019, 09:00:11 pm »

Quote from: CoryTheFormerExposFan on March 25, 2019, 04:17:07 pm

Yea I much prefer Goodwin to Stevenson. However, once MAT comes back really soon, Goodwin then doesn't really have a place here until/if someone else gets injured in the OF. So...probably not happening.

I prefer Stevenson. More upside. The lowly Royals waived Goodwin.

Slateman · « **Reply #1772 on:** March 25, 2019, 09:40:35 pm »

Uh, what is Stevenson's upside?

Elvir Ovcina · « **Reply #1773 on:** March 25, 2019, 09:41:32 pm »

Quote from: sixthree175 on March 25, 2019, 09:00:11 pm

I prefer Stevenson. More upside. The lowly Royals waived Goodwin.

Stevenson can't hit. He's almost 25 and is a career .272 hitter with no power in the minors. His career OPS is under .700. The eye test matches the numbers. He doesn't do anything well offensively. He can't hit fastballs, can't hit breaking pitches, can't hit low balls, can't hit high balls. Dude just can't hit.

For example, AAA? .244 with a .637 OPS, and that's in 156 games. Now it's not like he needs to be chucked immediately. But Goodwin's numbers were much better in the minors, and he can actually hit MLB pitching. Stevenson's ceiling is Goodwin, at best.

Goodwin's a decent use of an extra roster spot, at least until he inevitably gets hurt in 3 weeks.

Quote from: CoryTheFormerExposFan on March 25, 2019, 04:17:07 pm

Yea I much prefer Goodwin to Stevenson. However, once MAT comes back really soon, Goodwin then doesn't really have a place here until/if someone else gets injured in the OF. So...probably not happening.

Probably not, but he'd probably take a deal if you said he'd collect MLB paychecks for 3 weeks and then get DFAed and become the first OF up if he passes through waivers and someone else gets hurt.

Air Desmond · « **Reply #1774 on:** March 25, 2019, 09:58:09 pm »

Best thing the Nats did this offseason was upgrading the catcher position. Having 2 dependable catchers is a huge asset. Wieters and Severino were a black hole last year.