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« Reply #775 on: December 06, 2018, 06:13:17 pm »
I'd consider trading Strasburg to the Yankees for a package of something like Jordan Montgomery, Clint Frazier, Greg Bird and Jonathan Loaisiga. One TJ starter but who looked good his rookie year, one potential stud OF in a crowded OF, a reclamation project LH 1B and their #2 prospect who flashed good stuff in the MLB. It's a lot of risk - Frazier is returning from a concussion, TJ surgery has its risks and Bird has either been awesome or awful. Maybe add a #15-20 prospect. The Yankees don't *need* any of those guys and it won't hurt them this year while adding a controlled stud SP. The upside for us is you're potentially getting a starting LF, a #3 pitcher, a starting 1B and another #2 pitcher - depth we desperately need. Not saying I'd do it but I'd consider it.

Who knows!

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Does he have a no trade clause? I couldn’t see him lasting more than a month in New York.

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« Reply #776 on: December 06, 2018, 06:14:39 pm »
Does he have a no trade clause? I couldn’t see him lasting more than a month in New York.

He does IIRC, but we're not trading him and it's a fantasy proposal anyways.

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« Reply #777 on: December 06, 2018, 06:15:48 pm »
Because that contract is an albatross.  Strasburg will never be healthy. You are basically hoping, every season, that he can give you 20 starts and be healthy at the end of the season.

No one is taking that contract unless it comes with prospects.
Correct. Looks like he is due for another TJ surgery soon. I mentioned San Diego since they are not competitive and he would help ticket sales. And he is likely to be happy going home.

The problem with his contract if he has a big year or two then he can opt out. If he does bad he won’t opt out. Lose-lose for the Nats.

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« Reply #778 on: December 06, 2018, 08:19:57 pm »
Correct. Looks like he is due for another TJ surgery soon. I mentioned San Diego since they are not competitive and he would help ticket sales. And he is likely to be happy going home.

The problem with his contract if he has a big year or two then he can opt out. If he does bad he won’t opt out. Lose-lose for the Nats.

Stras won't be opting out of this contract.  What other team is going to give him a better deal, given his propensity to go on the DL?  Having said that, opt-outs suck!   

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« Reply #779 on: December 06, 2018, 08:41:41 pm »
Stras won't be opting out of this contract.  What other team is going to give him a better deal, given his propensity to go on the DL?  Having said that, opt-outs suck!   
If he has a big year he just might.  Someone will bite.  This year or next.

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« Reply #780 on: December 06, 2018, 09:09:13 pm »
If he has a big year he just might.  Someone will bite.  This year or next.

Not a chance in hell. He could have a career year and win the Cy Young and hes not opting out. No one is going to give him over 100 million

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« Reply #781 on: December 07, 2018, 12:04:08 am »
Not a chance in hell. He could have a career year and win the Cy Young and hes not opting out. No one is going to give him over 100 million

You guys are crazy. Eovaldi just got 70 million for 20 some post season innings.

If Strasburg was a free agent this year guaranteed he gets more than Corbin.

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« Reply #782 on: December 07, 2018, 12:36:40 am »
I'd consider trading Strasburg to the Yankees for a package of something like Jordan Montgomery, Clint Frazier, Greg Bird and Jonathan Loaisiga. One TJ starter but who looked good his rookie year, one potential stud OF in a crowded OF, a reclamation project LH 1B and their #2 prospect who flashed good stuff in the MLB. It's a lot of risk - Frazier is returning from a concussion, TJ surgery has its risks and Bird has either been awesome or awful. Maybe add a #15-20 prospect. The Yankees don't *need* any of those guys and it won't hurt them this year or even next year while adding a controlled stud SP. The upside for us is you're potentially getting a starting LF, a #3 pitcher, a starting 1B and another #2-3 pitcher - depth we desperately need. Not saying I'd do it but I'd consider it.

Who knows!

disclaimer - my trade proposal sucks
I wouldnt do it but I actually dont hate this suggestion but you would have to go after Kuechel hard if you do this trade

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« Reply #783 on: December 07, 2018, 06:54:43 am »
I'd consider trading Strasburg to the Yankees for a package of something like Jordan Montgomery, Clint Frazier, Greg Bird and Jonathan Loaisiga. One TJ starter but who looked good his rookie year, one potential stud OF in a crowded OF, a reclamation project LH 1B and their #2 prospect who flashed good stuff in the MLB. It's a lot of risk - Frazier is returning from a concussion, TJ surgery has its risks and Bird has either been awesome or awful. Maybe add a #15-20 prospect. The Yankees don't *need* any of those guys and it won't hurt them this year or even next year while adding a controlled stud SP. The upside for us is you're potentially getting a starting LF, a #3 pitcher, a starting 1B and another #2-3 pitcher - depth we desperately need. Not saying I'd do it but I'd consider it.

Who knows!

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 :hysterical: Why would they do that? You're not getting crap for that contract.

If the Yankees offered Isiah Gilliam, Rizzo should take that crap and run like a bat out of hell.

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« Reply #784 on: December 07, 2018, 07:43:36 am »
I am guessing the LH 1b Rizzo will call will be Justin Bour. He and his wife are from the area, i think 5 or 6million for a year should do it. He will get 300 Abs here. I doubt he gets a starting gig anywhere else.

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« Reply #785 on: December 07, 2018, 07:59:16 am »
I am guessing the LH 1b Rizzo will call will be Justin Bour. He and his wife are from the area, i think 5 or 6million for a year should do it. He will get 300 Abs here. I doubt he gets a starting gig anywhere else.

Bour would be a perfect fit.

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« Reply #786 on: December 07, 2018, 08:35:55 am »
The Nats have scheduled a 12:30 press conference for a 'major baseball announcement' according to Zuck, expectation is that they will officially announce the Corbin signing.  It will be broadcast live on MASN.

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« Reply #787 on: December 07, 2018, 08:39:32 am »
The Nats have scheduled a 12:30 press conference for a 'major baseball announcement' according to Zuck, expectation is that they will officially announce the Corbin signing.  It will be broadcast live on MASN.
Hopefully G&D will have it live too

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« Reply #788 on: December 07, 2018, 08:56:52 am »
Bour would be a perfect fit.
Rather have Matt Adams or if Murph is still available in February

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« Reply #789 on: December 07, 2018, 09:01:01 am »
Bour would be a perfect fit.

And, our pitchers wouldn't have to face him. The guy murders our pitching.

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« Reply #790 on: December 07, 2018, 10:01:26 am »
Bour would be a perfect fit.
these words are seldom spoken about a man the size of Justin Bour :lol:  I hope this happens.  Murphy would be even better because he can play inept defense at more positions.  Adams too, but I suspect he gets a better offer.

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« Reply #791 on: December 07, 2018, 01:17:24 pm »
these words are seldom spoken about a man the size of Justin Bour :lol:  I hope this happens.  Murphy would be even better because he can play inept defense at more positions.  Adams too, but I suspect he gets a better offer.

Adams probably will cost 8mill this year. Bour you can get on the cheap. I think Bour is a natural fit who will want to play here so you can offer him 5 and he'll take it. the guys splits are like Adams. Hits righties ok, cant hit lefties at all.  When Zim gets hurt you can platoon Howie and Justin at 1st.

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« Reply #792 on: December 07, 2018, 01:34:03 pm »
Bour would be a perfect fit.
He didn’t have a good year.

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« Reply #793 on: December 07, 2018, 01:35:20 pm »
Adams probably will cost 8mill this year. Bour you can get on the cheap. I think Bour is a natural fit who will want to play here so you can offer him 5 and he'll take it. the guys splits are like Adams. Hits righties ok, cant hit lefties at all.  When Zim gets hurt you can platoon Howie and Justin at 1st.
Didn’t hit righties or lefties last year. Also not good defensively and can’t play the outfield as Adams’s can. Pay the extra few million and get Adams.

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« Reply #794 on: December 07, 2018, 01:38:06 pm »
And, our pitchers wouldn't have to face him. The guy murders our pitching.

That's what I thought too, but his career splits are very interesting in that regard.  Overall, he's actually below his career averages (.238 with a .775 OPS against the Nats; .260 and .811 overall). 

What's both interesting and good is that our eye test is accurate: he's killed it at Nats Park (.266 but with an .886 OPS and 7 HR in 123 PAs, which isn't a tiny sample), which is probably why Nats fans who go to games think of him as a Nats killer.    If he sees the ball that well consistently there, there's some opportunity. 

Didn’t hit righties or lefties last year. Also not good defensively and can’t play the outfield as Adams’s can. Pay the extra few million and get Adams.

Adams can't play the outfield either, regardless of whether people insist on trying it.

He didn’t have a good year.

Dude hit more than 40 points under his previous career average and he's only 30.  That's a very obvious bounceback candidate (and his OPS+ was actually better than Adams last year).   

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« Reply #795 on: December 07, 2018, 01:40:27 pm »
Didn’t hit righties or lefties last year. Also not good defensively and can’t play the outfield as Adams’s can. Pay the extra few million and get Adams.

was also hurt to start last year. Look at his prior 3 years and take into account he hits 20+ Hrs in that stadium

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« Reply #796 on: December 07, 2018, 01:41:32 pm »
was also hurt to start last year. Look at his prior 3 years and take into account he hits 20+ Hrs in that stadium
Maybe the pitchers have figured him out. Don’t like to buy things trending down.

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« Reply #797 on: December 07, 2018, 01:51:43 pm »
Maybe the pitchers have figured him out. Don’t like to buy things trending down.
Then you shouldn't want Adams, either.  His 2017 to 2018 drop was pretty steep too.

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« Reply #798 on: December 07, 2018, 02:49:31 pm »
Then you shouldn't want Adams, either.  His 2017 to 2018 drop was pretty steep too.

If Murphy can be signed for 2 years, $19mm, then I'll take Murphy.

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« Reply #799 on: December 07, 2018, 02:54:30 pm »
If Murphy can be signed for 2 years, $19mm, then I'll take Murphy.

there's a certain chemistry factor with Murph that seemed good for other hitters. there's also the bigotry stuff but that didn't seem to be a problem. I'm sure Murph wants to start though.