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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1850 on: September 09, 2015, 10:52:55 am »
I caught Matt on the junkies - pretty much kept saying his job is to support his players (no, his job is to manage the team to victories).  In response to a question about having Rendon bunt he said that they didn't think the Mets would walk Harper because he represented the tying run.  The junkies were pretty tough on him and some of his decisions, his response was 'well, there are a thousand opinions...."  At one point he said "you guys don't have access to the information that we have."  When asked why he didn't have anyone warming up when Storen got into trouble he gave the standard "have to stand by your guy, Storen has gotten us key outs all year, he's our horse" response.

He sounded defeated, and he really couldn't offer much of any defense for his boneheaded plays.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1851 on: September 09, 2015, 10:55:18 am »
[...]Difficult to listen to Matt Williams[...]

...is it ever...

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« Reply #1852 on: September 09, 2015, 10:58:37 am »
I caught Matt on the junkies - pretty much kept saying his job is to support his players (no, his job is to manage the team to victories).  In response to a question about having Rendon bunt he said that they didn't think the Mets would walk Harper because he represented the tying run.  The junkies were pretty tough on him and some of his decisions, his response was 'well, there are a thousand opinions...."  At one point he said "you guys don't have access to the information that we have."  When asked why he didn't have anyone warming up when Storen got into trouble he gave the standard "have to stand by your guy, Storen has gotten us key outs all year, he's our horse" response.

He sounded defeated, and he really couldn't offer much of any defense for his boneheaded plays.
He is an idiot.  I was screaming at the game at him why he had no one up when Storen was having his meltdown.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1853 on: September 09, 2015, 11:02:57 am »
should be 'harper represented the go-ahead run" above.

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« Reply #1854 on: September 09, 2015, 11:09:20 am »
At one point he said "you guys don't have access to the information that we have."  When asked why he didn't have anyone warming up when Storen got into trouble he gave the standard "have to stand by your guy, Storen has gotten us key outs all year, he's our horse" response.

If this is what he actually said he should never manage in MLB again. 

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1855 on: September 09, 2015, 11:11:31 am »
This is why a team with this much talent can't go "winging it" for the new hot managerial candidate and needs to go with a proven one.

Question is: who will replace Williams? I like Rizzo, I don't want to see him go anywhere but will he admit defeat?

My step-son set me up with a Twitter.  I've been tweeting at Jose Vidro to throw his hat in the ring.  I hope you all do the same.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1856 on: September 09, 2015, 11:15:18 am »
If this is what he actually said he should never manage in MLB again. 

Nah. He's an #Insider

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1857 on: September 09, 2015, 11:34:51 am »
See I've always seen the offense as a problem, it's been SO frustrating hearing people say "oh we're in the top whatever in runs scored" yea we scored a ton in blowouts, that skewed the run total to not reflect our offense accurately-we could not manufacture runs when we needed to, we just couldn't.  I was pissed when we signed Scherzer, just thought really, another pitcher is the last thing we need.  I don't prefer to be pitching first; being pitching first has gotten us a whole lot of nothing so far :(  I think our offense needs an immense overhaul; bullpen as well but man, I'm so tired of not getting runs (tonight's game notwithstanding).

Pitching is what got the Giants three World Series titles. In each of their runs their pitching inexplicably dominated and their bullpen gave up zilch. Pitching is what gets the Cards to the NLCS every year. You don't want to have to roll the dice with the bats like the Astros and Orioles, you just want a solid contact-focused lineup that can score you a few run guaranteed and let the pitching do the rest. Drew just choked away 2012 is all, and our bats just found a way to choke last year while striking out constantly. Our offensive approach is just feeding the current strikeout phenomenon and our poor defense/shifts and bullpen are as well. We're going against the grain of the times. Put the bat on the ball, play defense and pitch all nine innings.  The Orioles did the latter two last year, and the Giants did all three. Both got further than we did, we only pitched. This year we didn't even do that and you can see where it got us.

The hell with the long ball already, you guys are Major Leaguers, you get the bat head on the ball and it's gonna fly out often enough. Ted Williams had tons of homers as average as his frame was because he had eyes like a hawk and the coordination to put it together. When he entered the war (twice) he became a fighter pilot for craps sake. He hit 30 homers at 41 (!!!) years old with those skinny ass arms of his. Because, it turns out, baseball bats are made out of pretty solid wood and baseballs have a bouncy cork center, so if you just get the heaviest part of the bat on the ball it's going to go a long ways. And he walked all the damn time because nobody wanted to challenge his eye or bat speed.

You know who else does that? Bryce Harper. I can't believe it but ironically Bryce Harper has become one of our best hitters from a philosophical standpoint. He still seems to swing for the fences too often but if someone convinced him to just make more contact, because he's got so much natural power, he would be unreal. Doesn't matter if the ball is in the second deck, just get it over the fence. Don't make outs, take your free pass if they won't challenge you, take your little single if that's all they're giving you. That's what he's done all year and that's why he's en route to to a batting title, not a home run record. When Rizzo said "We've always seen Harper as an avg hitter first, then a power hitter" I thought he was just bullcrapting.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1858 on: September 09, 2015, 11:36:40 am »
Take these words to the lottery

If this is what he actually said he should never manage in MLB again. 

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1859 on: September 09, 2015, 11:44:42 am »
My step-son set me up with a Twitter.  I've been tweeting at Jose Vidro to throw his hat in the ring.  I hope you all do the same.

Of course! What's ol' Jose's twitter handle?

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1860 on: September 09, 2015, 11:53:49 am »
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Pitching is what got the Giants three World Series titles. In each of their runs their pitching inexplicably dominated and their bullpen gave up zilch.

Moreover, team leadership, preparation, and philosophy what's the difference for them, even when they were going against equivalent pitching staffs such as the Phillies in 2010.  Polar opposite here in NatsTown right out of the gate, and last years division series made the differences obvious to everyone but Rizzo. As for Rizzo, it's either blinders for his alpha pal in the dugout or lack of urgency on getting it done this year.

We will see if his blinders stay on any further.  Since ticket renewals might end up being at stake because of how blatant Williams has made a need for a change, it might be ownership that ends up making the call.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1861 on: September 09, 2015, 12:34:25 pm »
Bunting at any count was unforgivable.  Even if Rendon got a good bunt down, then the Mets intentionally walk Harper.  It just shows an utter lack of baseball sense.

The correct answer was pinch run and start den Dekker, pray he doesn't line drive into a double play.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1862 on: September 09, 2015, 12:36:55 pm »
I wasn't asked for my opinion but will give it anyway - having visited his home town of Winnipeg a few times in the past year I wish to report that his name is pronounced "Backmun", not Bockmun.  Contrary to the prevailing practice.

This is a dialect thing. The difference in America and Canada between "pasta", "Mazda", and "Mario" is the same.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1863 on: September 09, 2015, 12:39:22 pm »
He sounded defeated, and he really couldn't offer much of any defense for his boneheaded plays.

A little different questions than at the Arizona Fall League.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1864 on: September 09, 2015, 12:48:01 pm »
Doesn't even matter if the bullpen issues are his fault (they aren't) can't bring him back at this point, he'd be booed off the stage at Nats Fest. So Rizzo gets to pick another manager, he's grinding through them awfully quick.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1865 on: September 09, 2015, 01:00:34 pm »
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The real answer is no one knows. There are just way too many variables in play that we can't measure. Williams seems like a pretty big negative, but whether that's a few games or a half dozen, we just don't know.

34 minutes ago
Comment From bucs_lose_again
I know often it has been said that a great manager can only influence a team's win total so much, but in your opinion, how much can a terrible manager (looking at you Matt Williams) influence a team's loss total?

I'd lean towards the latter, if not more.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1866 on: September 09, 2015, 01:08:33 pm »

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1867 on: September 09, 2015, 01:22:59 pm »
I leave early when I take my toddler because he can only make it 5 innings max, hope Bryce doesn't get mad.


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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1869 on: September 09, 2015, 01:38:12 pm »
I wasn't asked for my opinion but will give it anyway - having visited his home town of Winnipeg a few times in the past year I wish to report that his name is pronounced "Backmun", not Bockmun.  Contrary to the prevailing practice.
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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1870 on: September 09, 2015, 02:03:25 pm »
Is Williams guaranteed a salary for next year?

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1871 on: September 09, 2015, 02:23:48 pm »
For your listening pleasure:

https://soundcloud.com/mlbnetworkradio/matt-williams-wsh-mgr-on?in=mlbnetworkradio/sets/washington-nationals-mlb


I was listening to mlbradio on the way back from lunch and the guy who's on with Bowden was destroying Williams for this answer and for his "managing" last night-he can't get over the bunt in the 9th, omgosh by the time I had to stop listening they were both pretty much saying he doesn't understand managing, at all, and intimated Rizzo should've gotten rid of him a month ago, when we still had a chance :(

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1872 on: September 09, 2015, 02:24:25 pm »
Is Williams guaranteed a salary for next year?

yes, they exercised his option in February  >:( >:( >:( >:(

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« Reply #1873 on: September 09, 2015, 02:49:15 pm »
Is Williams guaranteed a salary for next year?

The amount does not seem to be available anywhere, but it can't be more than the $5 million they're wasting on Nate McClouth.  With the off day tomorrow, if they lose tonight, is there any chance they can him and give Knorr the rest of the season to audition?  Not to say Knorr is necessarily the solution, but at least the players seem to respond better to him.  Matt is getting universally slammed for his decision to bunt Rendon.

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« Reply #1874 on: September 09, 2015, 02:50:07 pm »
The amount does not seem to be available anywhere, but it can't be more than the $5 million they're wasting on Nate McClouth.  With the off day tomorrow, if they lose tonight, is there any chance they can him and give Knorr the rest of the season to audition?  Not to say Knorr is necessarily the solution, but at least the players seem to respond better to him.  Matt is getting universally slammed for his decision to bunt Rendon.

Nope