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Offline tomterp

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1000 on: May 26, 2015, 01:47:56 pm »
Quote from: Slateman on May 26, 2015, 01:42:07 pm
Did I say he was unproductive? I'm talking about sustaining a productive season. In 2014 and 2013, he didn't stay healthy. In 2012, he went in to an awful slump and basically disappeared after two months (the Yankees series).

How do you define "sustain a productive season"? 
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1001 on: May 26, 2015, 01:48:27 pm »
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1002 on: May 26, 2015, 01:49:53 pm »
Quote from: tomterp on May 26, 2015, 01:47:56 pm
How do you define "sustain a productive season"? 

Apparently the same way Joe Morgan did. He needs to "gain consistency".
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1003 on: May 26, 2015, 01:53:53 pm »
So what's consistent? Does he have to go 1 for 3 every day? You're gonna have up swings and down swings. The hope is that when he downswings he still manages to hit like .260, because his upswings are pretty insane. What you don't want to see is a downswing where he's complete crap, but I don't see that happening. His plate discipline and approach are vastly improved this year. He's finally "getting it."
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1004 on: May 26, 2015, 01:54:12 pm »
Quote from: NJ Ave on May 26, 2015, 01:49:53 pm
Apparently the same way Joe Morgan did. He needs to "gain consistency".

"Consistency" - the most consistently misused word in all baseball.

I'm pretty sure I would be the most consistent hitter in the history of the game if they could give me a qualifying number of PA's.  I would never break up my consistent performance with, say, a hit.
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1005 on: May 26, 2015, 01:55:37 pm »
Slate, how can Harper know when to hit home runs and draw walks if you don't give him the schedule?
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1006 on: May 26, 2015, 01:57:27 pm »
Has Bryce Harper faced a pitcher younger than him yet?
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1007 on: May 26, 2015, 01:59:19 pm »
Quote from: UMDNats on May 26, 2015, 01:57:27 pm
Has Bryce Harper faced a pitcher younger than him yet?

If I may piggy back on your question, has he faced a top quality pitcher?   Who's the best pitcher he's homered against?     Not trying to be a SA, just curious.
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1008 on: May 26, 2015, 01:59:25 pm »
HE'S USING UP ALL HIS HRS! SPACE 'EM OUT KID!
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1009 on: May 26, 2015, 02:01:46 pm »
Quote from: mitlen on May 26, 2015, 01:59:19 pm
If I may piggy back on your question, has he faced a top quality pitcher?   Who's the best pitcher he's homered against?     Not trying to be a SA, just curious.
Clayton Kershaw.
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1010 on: May 26, 2015, 02:02:09 pm »
Quote from: mitlen on May 26, 2015, 01:59:19 pm
If I may piggy back on your question, has he faced a top quality pitcher?   Who's the best pitcher he's homered against?     Not trying to be a SA, just curious.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/batter_vs_pitcher.cgi?batter=harpebr03

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1011 on: May 26, 2015, 02:03:43 pm »
Quote from: mitlen on May 26, 2015, 01:59:19 pm
If I may piggy back on your question, has he faced a top quality pitcher?   Who's the best pitcher he's homered against?     Not trying to be a SA, just curious.

How soon we forget:

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1012 on: May 26, 2015, 02:08:17 pm »
Quote from: UMDNats on May 26, 2015, 02:02:09 pm
http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/batter_vs_pitcher.cgi?batter=harpebr03


Impressive list.

Notables: Madison Bumgarner, Johan Santana, Clayton Kershaw, Craig Kimbrel, Tyson Ross, Mark Buehrle, Anibal Sanchez, AJ Burnett, Adam Wainwright.
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1013 on: May 26, 2015, 02:10:11 pm »
Quote from: sportsfan882 on May 26, 2015, 02:08:17 pm
Impressive list.

Notables: Madison Bumgarner, Johan Santana, Clayton Kershaw, Craig Kimbrel, Tyson Ross, Mark Buehrle, Anibal Sanchez, AJ Burnett, Adam Wainwright

and a whopping .455 against Aaron Harang!  .400 / .455 /.750 against Wainwright :shock:
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1014 on: May 26, 2015, 02:11:27 pm »
And what exactly does "staying healthy" equate to in terms of number of games played?  Very few players go through prolonged careers averaging 150+ games per season.
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1015 on: May 26, 2015, 02:16:40 pm »
Quote from: Optics on May 26, 2015, 01:53:53 pm
So what's consistent? Does he have to go 1 for 3 every day? You're gonna have up swings and down swings. The hope is that when he downswings he still manages to hit like .260, because his upswings are pretty insane. What you don't want to see is a downswing where he's complete crap, but I don't see that happening. His plate discipline and approach are vastly improved this year. He's finally "getting it."

1. Stay healthy
2. Avoid massive, two month slumps. Remember in 2012, after the Yankees series? He went in to that series OPSing .922. 63 games later,  he's sitting at .730.

I'm not counting on Werth or Desmond ever showing up. I'm not betting a whole lot on Rendon or Zimmerman breaking out big. Harper IS this team's offense. If he goes in to a slump like that, the Nationals are going to be in trouble.
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1016 on: May 26, 2015, 02:17:26 pm »
Quote from: Slateman on May 26, 2015, 02:16:40 pm
Remember in 2012, after the Yankees series? He went in to that series OPSing .922. 63 games later,  he's sitting at .730.

Remember 4 years ago, when he was 19?
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1017 on: May 26, 2015, 02:25:31 pm »
Quote from: NJ Ave on May 26, 2015, 02:17:26 pm
Remember 4 years ago, when he was 19?
Okay, that's great, still doesn't change the fact that he has a habit of long slumps and not staying healthy.

You guys are acting like I said he was trash. I simply want to see some consistency.
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1018 on: May 26, 2015, 02:25:56 pm »
anyone remember the first month or so of April 2013 before he hit the wall?  He was putting up these kinds of numbers back then.  He was also putting them from August onward IIRC last year.

Slate is right, stay healthy and we're looking at .330/.430/.700 type numbers with 40+ HRs.  E.g. MVP/Hall of Fame type performances.
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1019 on: May 26, 2015, 02:28:00 pm »
Quote from: imref on May 26, 2015, 02:25:56 pm
Slate is right, stay healthy and we're looking at .330/.430/.700 type numbers with 40+ HRs.  E.g. MVP/Hall of Fame type performances.

Quote from: Minty Fresh on May 26, 2015, 02:11:27 pm
And what exactly does "staying healthy" equate to in terms of number of games played?  Very few players go through prolonged careers averaging 150+ games per season.

:shrug:
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1020 on: May 26, 2015, 02:28:06 pm »
Quote from: imref on May 26, 2015, 02:25:56 pm
anyone remember the first month or so of April 2013 before he hit the wall?  He was putting up these kinds of numbers back then.  He was also putting them from August onward IIRC last year.

Slate is right, stay healthy and we're looking at .330/.430/.700 type numbers with 40+ HRs.  E.g. MVP/Hall of Fame type performances.

That's all I'm saying. We know he has the talent. He's somehow gotten better in the offseason. The questions are: Will he stay healthy? Can he stay out of his own head?
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1021 on: May 26, 2015, 02:34:40 pm »
Quote from: UMDNats on May 26, 2015, 01:57:27 pm
Has Bryce Harper faced a pitcher younger than him yet?

Toronto has a starter who's 20 and we play them next week.
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1022 on: May 26, 2015, 03:04:35 pm »
Quote from: imref on May 26, 2015, 02:03:43 pm
How soon we forget:



One of the best sports moments I've ever witnessed live. I was sitting down the 3B line and I could see him timing Fake Tough. I was thinking how great it would be if he stole home, not thinking he would actually do it.
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1023 on: May 26, 2015, 04:12:18 pm »
Obviously I've been out of the loop but it appears Slate has a personal vendetta against Harper. Kind of irrational.
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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #1024 on: May 26, 2015, 04:15:42 pm »
Quote from: Terpfan76 on May 26, 2015, 04:12:18 pm
Obviously I've been out of the loop but it appears Slate has a personal vendetta against Harper. Kind of irrational.
Only because he's doing so well and we're all praising him.  Let him slow down and bit and us all start nagging about him and Slate will be his #1 fan :lol:

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