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Offline NatsAllThe Way

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #400 on: March 17, 2015, 12:09:53 pm »
Not sure if it's a mindfact but I thought I heard one time that somebody timed the "action" in a pro football game.    In an entire game it was around 11 minutes.    Rest of the time, they're pattin' each other on the arse.
Harper is going in healthy and with a fresh attitude.  He will have a monster year.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #401 on: March 17, 2015, 09:22:53 pm »
Matt Williams is a little too anal

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Bryce Harper certainly has a flair for the dramatic, even in spring training.

The Nationals faced the Astros on Monday afternoon and in the fifth inning Houston outfielder Alex Presley hit a line drive toward Harper in right field.

Harper took a slow route to the ball, baiting Presley into thinking he had a chance at taking an extra base. When he made the turn toward second, Harper sprang into action and delivered a dart to nail Presley at second.

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After the game Harper admitted it was all part of his master plan.

"I came up slow on that on purpose, just to see if he’d round the bag or something like that," said Harper. "That’s something I want to play this year, something I really want to do this year. Coming up on the ball to try to take the extra bag, hopefully have a good throw to second base to get 'em out."

It was an exciting play but one that Nationals manager Matt Williams could do without. He would prefer his star right fielder take a more conventional approach in the outfield.

"I thought he shouldn’t have even attempted to go to second," said Williams. "[Harper] needs to get to that ball quicker, then the guy doesn’t even go. It’s a good throw, but if he pounces on that baseball, he doesn’t attempt to go."

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #402 on: March 17, 2015, 09:26:46 pm »
Matt Williams is a little too anal

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Bryce Harper certainly has a flair for the dramatic, even in spring training.

The Nationals faced the Astros on Monday afternoon and in the fifth inning Houston outfielder Alex Presley hit a line drive toward Harper in right field.

Harper took a slow route to the ball, baiting Presley into thinking he had a chance at taking an extra base. When he made the turn toward second, Harper sprang into action and delivered a dart to nail Presley at second.

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After the game Harper admitted it was all part of his master plan.

"I came up slow on that on purpose, just to see if he’d round the bag or something like that," said Harper. "That’s something I want to play this year, something I really want to do this year. Coming up on the ball to try to take the extra bag, hopefully have a good throw to second base to get 'em out."

It was an exciting play but one that Nationals manager Matt Williams could do without. He would prefer his star right fielder take a more conventional approach in the outfield.

"I thought he shouldn’t have even attempted to go to second," said Williams. "[Harper] needs to get to that ball quicker, then the guy doesn’t even go. It’s a good throw, but if he pounces on that baseball, he doesn’t attempt to go."

Bryce did well in baiting Presley. That is a wise move. I've seen Gerardo Parra do the same thing and he was praised for it.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #403 on: March 17, 2015, 09:26:58 pm »
Matt Williams is a little too anal

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Bryce Harper certainly has a flair for the dramatic, even in spring training.

The Nationals faced the Astros on Monday afternoon and in the fifth inning Houston outfielder Alex Presley hit a line drive toward Harper in right field.

Harper took a slow route to the ball, baiting Presley into thinking he had a chance at taking an extra base. When he made the turn toward second, Harper sprang into action and delivered a dart to nail Presley at second.

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After the game Harper admitted it was all part of his master plan.

"I came up slow on that on purpose, just to see if he’d round the bag or something like that," said Harper. "That’s something I want to play this year, something I really want to do this year. Coming up on the ball to try to take the extra bag, hopefully have a good throw to second base to get 'em out."

It was an exciting play but one that Nationals manager Matt Williams could do without. He would prefer his star right fielder take a more conventional approach in the outfield.

"I thought he shouldn’t have even attempted to go to second," said Williams. "[Harper] needs to get to that ball quicker, then the guy doesn’t even go. It’s a good throw, but if he pounces on that baseball, he doesn’t attempt to go."


Chuck Noll wondered what Franco Harris was doing chasing Fuqua down the field.
Miller Huggins wondered what Babe Ruth was pointing at.
Roosevelt wondered where Patton went.
Williams wondered what Harper was doing.

It's all good.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #404 on: March 17, 2015, 09:41:49 pm »
Bryce did well in baiting Presley. That is a wise move. I've seen Gerardo Parra do the same thing and he was praised for it.

Parra has a history of being one of the best defensive OFers in baseball. Harper has not. Harper needs to stick to the basics when it comes to outfield defense and baserunning.

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« Reply #405 on: March 18, 2015, 10:09:11 am »
Parra has a history of being one of the best defensive OFers in baseball. Harper has not. Harper needs to stick to the basics when it comes to outfield defense and baserunning.

Well it's kind of hard to be one of the best if you are being coached to be average.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #406 on: March 18, 2015, 10:19:33 am »
Well it's kind of hard to be one of the best if you are being coached to be average.

Right now, Harper just needs to prove he can be average

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #407 on: March 18, 2015, 01:57:10 pm »
Harper is not known for his intellect.  Overthinking will always get him in trouble.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #408 on: March 18, 2015, 08:46:10 pm »
Right now, Harper just needs to prove he can be average

Aside from yourself, I doubt anyone thinks he's below average.  He just needs to be healthy and play, the rest will come. 


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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #409 on: March 18, 2015, 09:07:06 pm »
Aside from yourself, I doubt anyone thinks he's below average.  He just needs to be healthy and play, the rest will come. 


Does he even like the Nationals? I see no evidence.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #410 on: March 18, 2015, 09:25:20 pm »
Oh c'mon now Clean - why should Bryce have to show you he likes the Nationals ?


Does he even like the Nationals? I see no evidence.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #411 on: March 18, 2015, 09:54:08 pm »
Aside from yourself, I doubt anyone thinks he's below average.  He just needs to be healthy and play, the rest will come. 



The numbers say he's a below average defender. The eyes show it too. He neds to work on simply being average and not running in to walls.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #412 on: March 18, 2015, 10:52:55 pm »
I hope that outfield assist he got a few days ago doesn't make him go all gung-ho this season. His arm is strong but his aim not so much. Plus that throw required a nice tag where the defender barely got the runner's shoulder. I could easily see that turning into a lot of failed bait attempts this season.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #413 on: March 19, 2015, 12:45:25 pm »
Aside from yourself, I doubt anyone thinks he's below average.


I think he meant below average defensively.  And I think so too.

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« Reply #414 on: March 19, 2015, 09:09:10 pm »
I think he meant below average defensively.  And I think so too.

He didn't say defensively.  But even still, he seems average to me.  Poor breaks, but decent speed and the best outfield arm in baseball.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #415 on: March 19, 2015, 10:18:42 pm »
Parra has a history of being one of the best defensive OFers in baseball. Harper has not. Harper needs to stick to the basics when it comes to outfield defense and baserunning.
Well it's kind of hard to be one of the best if you are being coached to be average.
He didn't say defensively.  But even still, he seems average to me.  Poor breaks, but decent speed and the best outfield arm in baseball.

That's all we've been talking about for over a day.

His arm isn't the best. I'd take Heyward and Cain's over his every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #416 on: March 19, 2015, 10:24:54 pm »
That's all we've been talking about for over a day.

His arm isn't the best. I'd take Heyward and Cain's over his every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

His arm might not be the best but its still easily top 5-10 (if there's even an accurate way to judge such things)

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« Reply #417 on: March 19, 2015, 10:36:58 pm »
His arm might not be the best but its still easily top 5-10 (if there's even an accurate way to judge such things)
Line everyone up in CF Rick Ankiel-depth and have them throw one home.

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« Reply #419 on: March 20, 2015, 08:00:14 am »
That's all we've been talking about for over a day.

His arm isn't the best. I'd take Heyward and Cain's over his every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

BP had it as a clear #1.

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« Reply #420 on: March 20, 2015, 08:49:03 am »
He didn't say defensively.  But even still, he seems average to me.  Poor breaks, but decent speed and the best outfield arm in baseball.
If you want to rate Harper as a leftfielder, ok, he's average, because most leftfielders are not good.  Rightfielders are better defensively.  If you rate Harper as a rightfielder - which is what he is supposed to be now - I think he's below average.

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« Reply #421 on: March 20, 2015, 09:03:32 am »
BP had it as a clear #1.

FG has Alex Gordon and Yoenis Cespedes 1-2 in OF arm runs over the past three years. Leonys Martin looks really strong as well, albeit more recently and in a smaller sample. Bryce is up there though.

Heyward's arm loses runs, or is average, according to the 2 metrics they use. So is Cain's.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #422 on: March 20, 2015, 09:05:58 am »
Heyward, over the past three years, is basically neutral in arm but has been worth 54-68 runs in range alone! (5.4-6.8 wins, about).

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #423 on: March 20, 2015, 09:23:23 am »
Players again vote Bryce Harper MLB’s most overrated player



Harper is younger than Kris Bryant and has a career 125 OPS+. freak off, everyone.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Compendium (2015)
« Reply #424 on: March 20, 2015, 09:28:25 am »
Harper is younger than Kris Bryant and has a career 125 OPS+. freak off, everyone.

I think there's room for both points of view, to be honest. I don't think he's a bust or anything, but last year weren't some national media people putting him out there as an MVP candidate? He's nowhere close to that. He needs to make like a 50% jump to get to that level, so I can see players thinking he's overrated as an MVP-type player.