Washington Redskins thread (2013)

[spidernat]

I can't imagine any controversy dogging Shanahan for the rest of his career if he did that- it's not like mcnabb and Griffen share a trait that will lead to grandstanding and accusations from people looking for a reason to yell and scream

Can he quit and coach somewhere else?

He could but he would forfeit $7 million.

[Smithian]

Ray Horton as head coach with Joe Philbin as OC once he gets canned by Miami.

Yes please.

[spidernat]

Ray Horton as head coach with Joe Philbin as OC once he gets canned by Miami.

Yes please.

  Where did this come from? Who says the dolphins are going to fire him after two seasons? It's not altogether a bad idea except for the fact that Aaron Rodgers isn't walking through the door at Redskins Park. Trade Griffin for Tannehill to piss off Shanahan?   

[Vega]

Ray Horton as head coach with Joe Philbin as OC once he gets canned by Miami.

Yes please.

Please no. Horton is going a great job with my Browns. Don't take him away from them.

[Slateman]

Please no. Horton is going a great job with my Browns. Don't take him away from them.

We're taking Horton and Alex Mack

[spidernat]

We're taking Horton and Alex Mack

It's going to take more than that to fix this defense. You need a strong DL and the Redskins just don't have those pieces.

[Slateman]

It's going to take more than that to fix this defense. You need a strong DL and the Redskins just don't have those pieces.

Meh, move back to a 4-3 and it helps

Orakpo and Kerrigan could both pack on more weight and be quality ends. Gives the Skins the choice of 4 of 6 defensive tackles. I figure Jenkins, Cofield, Baker, and Neild will be the keepers. Alternatively, they could sign Michael Johnson or Greg Hardy to play end and keep Kerrigan at LB. He plays strong side with Riley playing MLB, Robinson on the weak side.

But the offensive line has been awful and needs a fix. Sign Mack, Smith, and/or Austin Howard, then supplement those signings with the draft. Team desperately needs an upgrade at center and right tackle. Maybe it's as simple as moving Lichtensteiger over to center and playing LeRebius.

[mmzznnxx]

The way this year has gone, I feel like we would have seen LeRibeus by now if they thought he could handle a starting role. He'd have to be pretty bad to not give Chester a run for his money. Starting to look like Shanahan overreached on him.

[mitlen]

From New4:

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/Kyle-Shanahan-May-Be-at-Center-of-Redskins-Coaching-Drama-235287111.html

[spidernat]

The way this year has gone, I feel like we would have seen LeRibeus by now if they thought he could handle a starting role. He'd have to be pretty bad to not give Chester a run for his money. Starting to look like Shanahan overreached on him.

He showed up to training camp 60 pounds overweight so not only did he have to shed weight to get back to playing shape but from what we know of Shanahan that was enough to banish him to his dog house and you don't get promoted out of Shanahan's dog house.

Maybe it's as simple as moving Lichtensteiger over to center and playing LeRebius.

I believe Liechtensteiger should be playing center but I'm not opposed to seeing him remain at LG if center, right guard and right tackle is addressed.

I figure Jenkins, Cofield, Baker, and Neild will be the keepers.

   Maybe Shanahan will get another position and he can take him and Carriker to his new team.

[spidernat]

From New4:

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/Kyle-Shanahan-May-Be-at-Center-of-Redskins-Coaching-Drama-235287111.html

That's not shocking at all. It's always been known that he likes to bond closely with his QB's as he did with Grossman and Simms  (). I don't see him tattooing McNabb's or Griffin's initials on his thigh.

How funny would it be if Raheem Morris was the leak and was trying to get Shanahan's job? 

[Slateman]

He showed up to training camp 60 pounds overweight so not only did he have to shed weight to get back to playing shape but from what we know of Shanahan that was enough to banish him to his dog house and you don't get promoted out of Shanahan's dog house.

I believe Liechtensteiger should be playing center but I'm not opposed to seeing him remain at LG if center, right guard and right tackle is addressed.

   Maybe Shanahan will get another position and he can take him and Carriker to his new team.

Neild has played well in the limited time he's played recently. He's nothing outstanding, but he's a good run stuffer.

[spidernat]

Neild has played well in the limited time he's played recently. He's nothing outstanding, but he's a good run stuffer.

 

I think it was the 49ers game that I watched everyone of his plays because he seems to have many fans that sing his praises and of the 18 snaps he had spelling Coefield he was never even close to the ball carrier or QB and was manhandled by the center on every play allowing wide lanes for the runner and a comfortable pocket for the QB. Also, on each drive he was on the field they yielded points. I'm not really blaming him for that but he was a part of it. He also didn't have a single tackle against the giants but did manage two tackles against the chiefs (although one should've been credited as an assist.   

[Terpfan76]

Neild has played well in the limited time he's played recently. He's nothing outstanding, but he's a good run stuffer.

I think Nield is a solid rotational guy, but he's not a starter. There should be some decent NTs available in FA this year. We'll see though.

[spidernat]

I think Nield is a solid rotational guy, but he's not a starter. There should be some decent NTs available in FA this year. We'll see though.

As stated above, everytime he came in for a drive to give Coefiled a blow the defense was gashed. Why not actually watch what happens instead of going for the crap that is circulated about players like the "Pocono Punisher"?

[spidernat]

Also, why do article links always have videos attached to them?    That crap is annoying. But I guess it's a generational thing. I was with my nephew the other day and when I directed him to an article link he actually watched the video and ignored the written piece. 

[The Chief]

Also, why do article links always have videos attached to them?    That crap is annoying. But I guess it's a generational thing. I was with my nephew the other day and when I directed him to an article link he actually watched the video and ignored the written piece. 

Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way.

[mitlen]

Also, why do article links always have videos attached to them?    That crap is annoying. But I guess it's a generational thing. I was with my nephew the other day and when I directed him to an article link he actually watched the video and ignored the written piece. 

My buddy and I figured out a long time ago.   We ain't the demographic they're after.

[Terpfan76]

Pocono Punisher? Not sure who that is Is that anything like the Hebrew Hammer?

OK, I Googled it He's one of those guys I could take or leave, but as a reserve guy, I can deal with him. That being said, I'm all for finding better players to start or ride the bench, either way, the more talent the better. Speaking of which, what do you think of someone like Cam Thomas? 6'4" 335lb NT FA after this season.

[Slateman]

As stated above, everytime he came in for a drive to give Coefiled a blow the defense was gashed. Why not actually watch what happens instead of going for the crap that is circulated about players like the "Pocono Punisher"?

Huh? 49ers averaged 2.3 yards a carry, including Kapernick. They had a running back rush five yards are more three times. Neild did his job.

[spidernat]

Yeah that's what they call him but one of the main problems here is the lack of depth at almost every position. Nield for instance has to play 3 or 4 drives per game in order to keep Coefiled fresh (even Coefield btw has not developed into the NT they hoped he would) and when that happens it's disastrous. Also, having a guy like Golston is detrimental to the cause of winning and because of injuries he has been starting most of this year and that dude gets completely manhandled on almost every play. Just think of Golston and Nield on the field at the same time and you know how I feel like vomiting when I see that. He's one of those "character guys" people talk about. Nield if a "high motor" player and personally I can do without both. It's not so much the lack of tackles because of playing 3-4 DL but the way they get destroyed at the line of scrimmage that bothers me.

I can't say too much about Thomas as I've not seen enough of him. I guess it depends on how much he costs and what his role would be. If as some have suggested they go back to the 4-3 then Coefield can fit one DT position but that means another has to be found. I don't know how Baker would do in that role but I do wonder how well a guy like Jenkins would do at the three technique DT. He seems quick enough to perhaps be able to play that role well. We'll see.

[spidernat]

Huh? 49ers averaged 2.3 yards a carry, including Kapernick. They had a running back rush five yards are more three times. Neild did his job.

Maybe it was the giants game that I saw that in but I saw him get manhandled on every play and not by double teams. He consistently gets absorbed by the center. freak it, I have an hour before going out so I'll go back and watch every snap he played in those games to make sure.

18 plays. Blocked by center 13 times, 4 by rg 1 by lg. He was sealed with ease and was pushed beyond the line of scrimmage repeatedly with two exceptions. In the second quarter on a 1st and 10 he made a nice move to his right and created penetration so he was actually near where the tackle was made by Kerrigan. On his next to last play (4th quarter) he stood his ground at the line of scrimmage against the rg blocking down on him and caused the runner to turn right and get tackled by Wilson. Otherwise he was absolutely destroyed and this by a center. If only Montgomery could go up against the likes of him! I wish you could see the way he was handled by the center. If his job was to get owned by the center then he was exceptional. On one play at the goal line he was the only one of the entire 6 man line that was driven backwards into the endzone.    One time he actually contributed by helping the RT of the 49ers block Kerrigan.    The DB's played a decent game in supporting the run that game. Unfortunately Wilson got owned in the passing game.

Much better in the Giants game although he only had 5 snaps. Absolutely destroyed by the center on one play where not only did the guard not help chip him but the center actually handled him with such ease that he disengaged and proceeded to the second level of the defense and blocked Orakpo as well. Then he got pushed downfield 5 yards by the center.    But his last two plays were good. After he got pwned 5 yards downfield, on the very next play he got doubled on a pass play and penetrated enough to affect Manning's pocket. Then he came in on a 1st and goal and lined up in the 1 technique and got great penetration. Dove at the ball carrier's legs and nearly made the tackle. Perhaps he just isn't strong enough to play the zero technique and that's why he gets so easily handled by centers. Maybe he can be much better at playing DT I just have to wonder if he has the quickness and athleticism to be effective there on a regular basis.

[Slateman]

HE wouldn't be in on a regular basis. He'd be a reserve/rotational guy

[Slateman]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000296499/article/will-kirk-cousins-start-at-qb-for-washington-redskins

It's happening

[HalfSmokes]

hopefully the national media picks up on the race angle- because why not just go for it if you're trying to make the last three games a circus