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Offline Ray D

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2100 on: January 11, 2012, 01:32:34 pm »
Would the MLB offices let a Prince to Dodgers deal even go through?
They'd have to make a business case. Basically they have to illustrate that it would make a sale more likely. I think they can make that case, and I think MLB would approve it.

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« Reply #2101 on: January 11, 2012, 01:35:06 pm »
If the Rangers are offering $50+ million in salary, after a $51.7M posting fee, making a $100+ million commitment to a pitcher with no MLB (or even minor league) experience doesn't strike me as low-balling.

They're paying one of the premiere pitchers in the entire world (or one who's thought to be) a salary comparable to that of Gil Meche.  That is low-balling.

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« Reply #2102 on: January 11, 2012, 01:37:17 pm »
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@jonmorosi: Source with knowledge of #Rangers finances doubts they invest in Yu Darvish AND Prince Fielder. #Nats still viewed as favorite for Prince.

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« Reply #2103 on: January 11, 2012, 01:37:51 pm »
TRAC!

lol right, they're cheap because they won't buy both when we proabably won't even buy one.

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« Reply #2104 on: January 11, 2012, 01:42:43 pm »
lol right, they're cheap because they won't buy both when we proabably won't even buy one.

They are cheap.  They only spent 92M last year compared to our payroll in the 60's.  Oh wait...Nevermind. 

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« Reply #2105 on: January 11, 2012, 01:42:55 pm »
one of the premiere pitchers in the entire world

He may be the best pitcher in the history of the world, but it's all speculation until you see him pitch in the majors.


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« Reply #2106 on: January 11, 2012, 01:45:24 pm »
If we really do have an offer on the table and it really is that low, I doubt we get Prince regardless of what the Rangers do.  Boras doesn't settle.

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« Reply #2107 on: January 11, 2012, 01:45:52 pm »
They are cheap.  They only spent 92M last year compared to our payroll in the 60's.  Oh wait...Nevermind. 

I dream lofty dreams of a 92 million dollar payroll.  Hell, going into last year I was gonna be satisfied with 75 and they still managed to disappoint me :?

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« Reply #2108 on: January 11, 2012, 01:49:50 pm »
If the Rangers are offering $50+ million in salary, after a $51.7M posting fee, making a $100+ million commitment to a pitcher with no MLB (or even minor league) experience doesn't strike me as low-balling.

If they really are offering the Dicek contract they are trying to buy out free agent years without giving him a substantial raise over what he's making now

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2109 on: January 11, 2012, 01:57:09 pm »
The quote I love is the one about maintaining parity (Kasten made a similar comment at FanFest I).  Why should as fans care in the slightest if the Lerners upset league parity? I'm waiting to hear from a Yankees fan how they aren't happy about how their team is affecting the free agent market.

I hope it's just a coincidence that being a winning franchise also upsets parity in baseball.


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« Reply #2110 on: January 11, 2012, 01:59:22 pm »
lol right, they're cheap because they won't buy both when we proabably won't even buy one.

snap.

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« Reply #2111 on: January 11, 2012, 02:04:24 pm »
Good ol' rumors

Two days ago Kerry Wood was insulted by the Cubs offer and was said to look elsewhere...today he agrees to a 1 year deal with a club option for 2013

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« Reply #2112 on: January 11, 2012, 02:07:22 pm »
They are cheap.  They only spent 92M last year compared to our payroll in the 60's.  Oh wait...Nevermind. 

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2113 on: January 11, 2012, 03:00:49 pm »
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you know JCA will be there pushing little kids out of the way so he could get Youkilis autograph
My late mom's favorite player?  Who homered for her the night she passed away and the night before her funeral? Still would not push a kid out of the way, but I'll tell him the story.  already have a Lester-signed baseball.

Oh, wait, this is a Nats forum?  LAC! 8)

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« Reply #2114 on: January 11, 2012, 03:10:23 pm »
The borb weighs in - Nats unlikely to sign fielder at current asking price.

http://www.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120111&content_id=26314680&vkey=news_was&c_id=was

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WASHINGTON -- There is a "99 percent" chance that the Nationals will not sign free-agent first baseman Prince Fielder, according to a baseball source.

The news comes a few weeks after ownership met with Fielder and his agent, Scott Boras, in the nation's capital.

The source indicated that Fielder's price must come down in order for the team to think about acquiring his services. The Nats are not willing to give Fielder anything close to the 10-year, $240 million contract the Angels gave first baseman Albert Pujols.

There is also a concern about the physical condition of Fielder, who is listed at 275 pounds. There are members of the team's front office who believe Fielder will essentially be a designated hitter within a few years.

With Fielder more than likely not coming to Washington, Adam LaRoche will be the everyday first baseman, backed up by Mark DeRosa. Last Spring Training, LaRoche was diagnosed with a torn labrum and rotator cuff. He played in only 43 games, hitting .172 with three home runs and 15 RBIs.

During LaRoche's absence, Mike Morse -- and later, Chris Marrero -- emerged at first base. LaRoche said in October that the Nationals didn't promise he would play first base every day in 2012. LaRoche is set to make $8 million in the second year of a two-year deal, with a mutual option for '13.

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2115 on: January 11, 2012, 03:12:57 pm »
The borb weighs in - Nats unlikely to sign fielder at current asking price.

http://www.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120111&content_id=26314680&vkey=news_was&c_id=was


It was all a scam. Happens just about every off season.

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2116 on: January 11, 2012, 03:13:34 pm »
The borb weighs in - Nats unlikely to sign fielder at current asking price.

http://www.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120111&content_id=26314680&vkey=news_was&c_id=was

I think it's a case of Boras still asking for the moon and the Lerners having an offer on the table that is nowhere near what PF wants.  Boras is waiting for Texas & Darvish to settle things.  If the Rangers don't have a better offer after the Darvish negotiations then maybe we have a shot at a lower price. 

Boras is a master negotiator but every once in a while things don't work out the way he wants. 

We'll see. 

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2117 on: January 11, 2012, 03:19:47 pm »
If it means we can extend Zimm, whatever don't sign him. If they won't do both I would rather have Zimm than fielder I suppose. But having both would make is contenders right now.

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2118 on: January 11, 2012, 03:20:41 pm »
Negotiating through the media, Prince will be ours.


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« Reply #2119 on: January 11, 2012, 03:21:10 pm »
If it means we can extend Zimm, whatever don't sign him. If they won't do both I would rather have Zimm than fielder I suppose. But having both would make is contenders right now.

With what the Nats are making... there's no need for it to be an either/or situation.

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« Reply #2120 on: January 11, 2012, 03:21:33 pm »
Boras is a master negotiator but every once in a while things don't work out the way he wants. 
Right, he was humiliated by the last ARod deal, and he can be humiliated again.


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« Reply #2121 on: January 11, 2012, 03:22:19 pm »
With what the Nats are making... there's no need for it to be an either/or situation.

I completely agree. But I think there's a strong possibility that it's going to be.

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« Reply #2122 on: January 11, 2012, 03:23:37 pm »
With what the Nats are making... there's no need for it to be an either/or situation.

agreed, but i can't fault them for not wanting to do a 10 year deal (if that's what he's asking)

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« Reply #2123 on: January 11, 2012, 03:27:16 pm »
agreed, but i can't fault them for not wanting to do a 10 year deal (if that's what he's asking)


Since no one is going to give him that, 10 years isn't really a realistic argument as to why we shouldn't sign him.

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« Reply #2124 on: January 11, 2012, 03:27:53 pm »
i can't fault them for not wanting to do a 10 year deal


I'll be very disappointed if they give that fat slob a 10 year deal.