Author Topic: Fielder (Read 288142 times)

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #1500 on:** January 06, 2012, 01:33:51 pm »

Mindfact - we'd probably have to pay an extra year and $20 mil in order to get him to come here rather than the Cubs or to go back to the Brewers (or to go to the Dodgers if they are bidding). O's and M's would have to outbid us to get him given how close we are to contending and the Boras connection.

wpa2629 · « **Reply #1501 on:** January 06, 2012, 01:35:37 pm »

JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm 7m

Five Reasons Why the Nationals need to sign Prince Fielder espn.com/mlb

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/the-gms-office/post/_/id/3133/five-reasons-why-nationals-need-fielder

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #1502 on:** January 06, 2012, 01:41:45 pm »

Since we are talking length of contract and commitment, I wanted to bump here Jedgi's post from a few days ago. I had similar thoughts, but he worked through maybe a more precise version. The Nats should go for a high upfront dollar commitment with an opt out. That way, Boras can claim a high minimum guaranteed and retain the flexibility to make more by opting out, and we are less hampered in the long run when Werth gets expensive, regardless of whether the opt out is exercised.

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #1161: January 04, 2012, 10:45:43 PM »Quote Here's a little bit of me dreaming, but I thought of this for a Prince contract. He wants a 10 year contract? Give it to him (and you know what, give him a couple opt outs too).

Year One 26.5M
Year Two 26.5M
Year Three 27M
*Player Opt Out Option*
Current Contract Sub-Total
3 Years/80M
Year Four 22M
*Player Opt Out Option*
Current Contract Sub-Total
4 Years/102M
Year 5 14M
Year 6 12M
Year 7 10M
Year 8 10M
Year 9 10.5M
Year 10 10.5M
Total Contract
10 Years/169M

Fielder gets an option to cash in after (hopefully) doing well and getting a lot of money on a (relatively) short term contract. HE would have two options to opt out after year 3 or year 4. If he chooses not to opt out then he will be paid at a lower, yet steady and safe rate throughout the rest of his career (hopefully by this time the NL would potentially have a DH, but if not an overall rate of 16.9M for 10 years isn't bad).

Just a mind spew, probably an awful idea that no one likes, but with all the anticipation I felt the need to post something.

EDIT: Or a simple six years/25 per, that works too!

The Chief · « **Reply #1503 on:** January 06, 2012, 01:42:53 pm »

I really am tempted to just lock this thread for a while... we're all just talking ourselves in circles and absolutely nothing has happened.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #1504 on:** January 06, 2012, 01:43:29 pm »

PS - some useful contributions recently from a few of the newer posters!

Ray D · « **Reply #1505 on:** January 06, 2012, 01:43:43 pm »

Quote from: comish4lif on January 06, 2012, 01:10:27 pm

I think the Rangers are preoccupied with Yu...

I heard this morning that he want 5 years/75M. No way Texas will give him that, and that puts them right back in the hunt for Fielder. And I do think Texas would give Fielder the long term deal he wants, in fact they're the only team that would. So if the rumors of Darvish's demands are true I think it's all over.

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #1506 on:** January 06, 2012, 01:47:49 pm »

Quote from: The Chief on January 06, 2012, 01:42:53 pm

I really am tempted to just lock this thread for a while... we're all just talking ourselves in circles and absolutely nothing has happened.

We are watching kind of an awkward dance go on between Boras and Rizzo right now. Rizzo doesn't quite compare to Boras in terms of being a blowhard.

Five Banners · « **Reply #1507 on:** January 06, 2012, 01:49:02 pm »

Quote from: wpa2629 on January 06, 2012, 01:35:37 pm

JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm 7m

Five Reasons Why the Nationals need to sign Prince Fielder espn.com/mlb

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/the-gms-office/post/_/id/3133/five-reasons-why-nationals-need-fielder

Non-premium link:
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?w=1bd0j&disableShare=true&adBlock=block&i=FB&id=3133&hidePageFooter=true&hidePageHeader=true&blogname=the-gms-office&wjb

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #1508 on:** January 06, 2012, 01:52:40 pm »

Quote from: The Chief on January 06, 2012, 01:42:53 pm

I really am tempted to just lock this thread for a while... we're all just talking ourselves in circles and absolutely nothing has happened.

Please do, one of the dumbest threads in forum history. 61 pages of bullcrap about a player that the Nats aren't even in the discussion for. Just because the media and fans want the Nats to be interested in Fielder doesn't mean that they are. It's poor all the way around.

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #1509 on:** January 06, 2012, 01:53:25 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on January 06, 2012, 01:52:40 pm

Please do, one of the dumbest threads in forum history. 61 pages of bullcrap about a player that the Nats aren't even in the discussion for. Just because the media and fans want the Nats to be interested in Fielder doesn't mean that they are. It's poor all the way around.

Leave it open, now.

Minty Fresh · « **Reply #1510 on:** January 06, 2012, 01:53:46 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on January 06, 2012, 01:52:40 pm

Please do, one of the dumbest threads in forum history. 61 pages of bullcrap about a player that the Nats aren't even in the discussion for. Just because the media and fans want the Nats to be interested in Fielder doesn't mean that they are. It's poor all the way around.

I wonder how many posts are yours.

Kevrock · « **Reply #1511 on:** January 06, 2012, 02:00:39 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on January 06, 2012, 01:52:40 pm

Please do, one of the dumbest threads in forum history. 61 pages of bullcrap about a player that the Nats aren't even in the discussion for. Just because the media and fans want the Nats to be interested in Fielder doesn't mean that they are. It's poor all the way around.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #1512 on:** January 06, 2012, 02:03:58 pm »

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“@MLB: BREAKING: @Cubs acquire 1B Anthony Rizzo and RHP Zach Cates from @Padres for RHP Andrew Cashner and OF Kyung-Min Na.”

Slateman · « **Reply #1513 on:** January 06, 2012, 02:04:21 pm »

Quote from: The Chief on January 06, 2012, 01:42:53 pm

I really am tempted to just lock this thread for a while... we're all just talking ourselves in circles and absolutely nothing has happened.

Can we start one about Azzclown?

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #1514 on:** January 06, 2012, 02:05:39 pm »

I don't think that precludes LaRoche for Byrd. They may want Rizzo to start in AAA and to have insurance in case he falls on his face.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #1515 on:** January 06, 2012, 02:05:54 pm »

Well, Cubs are out of it then.

Evolution33 · « **Reply #1516 on:** January 06, 2012, 02:06:50 pm »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on January 06, 2012, 02:05:39 pm

I don't think that precludes LaRoche for Byrd. They may want Rizzo to start in AAA and to have insurance in case he falls on his face.

Yes, but it shuts the door on Fielder.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #1517 on:** January 06, 2012, 02:09:01 pm »

So who's getting Fielder? Gotta be Seattle by process of elimination right? They do need the offense and the Cubs, Nats, and Rangers are essentially out on Fielder.

Minty Fresh · « **Reply #1518 on:** January 06, 2012, 02:13:31 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on January 06, 2012, 02:09:01 pm

So who's getting Fielder? Gotta be Seattle by process of elimination right? They do need the offense and the Cubs, Nats, and Rangers are essentially out on Fielder.

Shutup. We're supposed to lock the thread because it's 61 pages of garbage.

Man, you're stupid.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #1519 on:** January 06, 2012, 02:16:51 pm »

Looking at the market... I see this going one of two ways.

Either Prince signs here for say 3/24-26 years but has an opt out after this year... or he goes back to the Brewers on a one year deal and hits FA again next off-season.*

* - This all changes if the Rangers don't land Yu.

MarquisDeSade · « **Reply #1520 on:** January 06, 2012, 02:20:17 pm »

I could definitely see him going back to the Brewers on a one or even three year opt-out deal. Seattle and the Dodgers wouldn't shock me either though.

Evolution33 · « **Reply #1521 on:** January 06, 2012, 02:22:16 pm »

I wouldn't count out the Rangers just because of Darvish. Their decision is going to have to do more with what they want to do with Hamilton and Cruz long term.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #1522 on:** January 06, 2012, 02:26:04 pm »

Quote from: Evolution33 on January 06, 2012, 02:22:16 pm

I wouldn't count out the Rangers just because of Darvish. Their decision is going to have to do more with what they want to do with Hamilton and Cruz long term.

I just can't see them adding 35+ to the payroll with Darvish and Prince.

Maybe they would... but they've got a ton of guys in arbitration like Napoli and Cruz that are going to cost big bucks on top of that.

Would be crazy to see them go from 60's in 2010 payroll to 120 in 2012.

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #1523 on:** January 06, 2012, 02:27:03 pm »

Seattle or Milwaukee would shock just about everybody. After KRod accepted arbitration and they signed Aramis Ramirez, I can't see them having any more room.

Cubs are totally out of it now. Dodgers still a wild card but I can't really see it with their ownership situation totally up in the air.

If Boras waits until Darvish signs with Texas, he will just about zero leverage left.

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #1524 on:** January 06, 2012, 02:29:26 pm »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on January 06, 2012, 02:05:39 pm

I don't think that precludes LaRoche for Byrd. They may want Rizzo to start in AAA and to have insurance in case he falls on his face.

True. Rizzo has not looked that great at this level yet. They may want a backup plan. They could just sign someone if they really want to keep Byrd and don't mind paying the extra dough. They've never minded paying before.