Author Topic: 2011 Trade Watch (was trade deadline watch) (Read 86660 times)

PC · « **Reply #1475 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:57:00 am »

Quote from: wpa2629 on July 31, 2011, 09:54:50 am

No, the astros wanted minor leagueres

Yesterday is was reported that they wanted major leaguers for Bourn to make up for the very young minor leaguers they got for Pence.

imref · « **Reply #1476 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:57:28 am »

fingers crossed that Bourn with the Braves = Nate MacLouth.

wpa2629 · « **Reply #1477 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:58:15 am »

Quote from: PC on July 31, 2011, 09:57:00 am

Yesterday is was reported that they wanted major leaguers for Bourn to make up for the very young minor leaguers they got for Pence.

Yeah, that would make no sense. The Astros are in total rebuild, they need minor league players

houston-nat · « **Reply #1478 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:58:24 am »

Quote from: Smithian on July 31, 2011, 09:56:16 am

Damnit. Bourn was so perfect. At least the Braves will still get pwnt by lefties.

freak the Twins. They're trying to get us to bend over so they can feel better about the Capps trade. Let's just go trade for Bourjos and call it a fun day.

thirded.

imref · « **Reply #1479 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:59:30 am »

Heyman just tweeted that the Yankees are trying to get Heath Bell.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #1480 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:01:01 am »

Quote from: PowerBoater69 on July 31, 2011, 09:50:20 am

I'm not a big fan of trades in general, they are double the risk of signing a free agent. Signing a guy in the off-season is risky if they don't play up to expectations, but at least the monetary value paid for them is set. Trading for a player bears the same risk of under-performance, but also includes the risk of giving up a player whose value increases.

the risk with free agents is a ton of guys get resigned early so your pool is largely journeymen looking for one year deals and old players who are at their peak but want long term deals. The exception is the young guy like Teix who manages to make it through young enough to still be productive though a long term deal. I hate the proposed span trade, but finding a center fielder in free agency likely yields you a rick ankiel type player

Terpfan76 · « **Reply #1481 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:01:40 am »

Quote from: wpa2629 on July 31, 2011, 09:58:15 am

Yeah, that would make no sense. The Astros are in total rebuild, they need minor league players

Besides, the prospects they got from the Phillthies and Braves are probably better than the starters they currently trot out.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #1482 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:01:44 am »

Quote from: houston-nat on July 31, 2011, 09:58:24 am

thirded.

Bourjos is fun to say, but so is Denard Dog. I'll take either.

imref · « **Reply #1483 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:02:25 am »

am i that the thinks the Indians are crazy for making the Ubaldo deal?

MarquisDeSade · « **Reply #1484 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:02:36 am »

Quote from: PANatsFan on July 31, 2011, 10:01:44 am

Bourjos is fun to say, but so is Denard Dog. I'll take either.

Let's take neither and just wait for 2013...

wpa2629 · « **Reply #1485 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:03:24 am »

Quote from: Terpfan76 on July 31, 2011, 10:01:40 am

Besides, the prospects they got from the Phillthies and Braves are probably better than the starters they currently trot out.

Yep, pretty much

wpa2629 · « **Reply #1486 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:03:34 am »

Quote from: MarquisDeSade on July 31, 2011, 10:02:36 am

Let's take neither and just wait for 2013...

OK!

Terpfan76 · « **Reply #1487 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:04:06 am »

Quote from: wpa2629 on July 31, 2011, 10:03:34 am

OK!

Eury Perez in 2013!

MarquisDeSade · « **Reply #1488 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:04:33 am »

Quote from: Terpfan76 on July 31, 2011, 10:04:06 am

Eury Perez in 2013!

More like Oliver Perez in 2013!

wpa2629 · « **Reply #1489 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:04:45 am »

Quote from: imref on July 31, 2011, 10:02:25 am

am i that the thinks the Indians are crazy for making the Ubaldo deal?

They're not crazy, they're certifiable. Ubaldo has lost velocity and Colorado refused a physical? I mean Good Gawd! If it had been me, it wouldn't be a no, that would be a hell no!

Terpfan76 · « **Reply #1490 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:04:51 am »

Quote from: MarquisDeSade on July 31, 2011, 10:04:33 am

More like Oliver Perez in 2013!

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #1491 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:06:00 am »

Quote from: wpa2629 on July 31, 2011, 10:04:45 am

They're not crazy, they're certifiable. Ubaldo has lost velocity and Colorado refused a physical? I mean Good Gawd! If it had been me, that wouldn't be a no, that would be a hell no!

not to mention colorado isn't in full sell mode, they are just shopping their 'ace' who has a very team friendly contract. that would be like us just shopping Zimmermann next year

NFA Brian · « **Reply #1492 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:06:06 am »

Braves traded the equivalent of Laynce Nix, Brad Meyers, Marcos Frias, & Evan Bronson for Michael Bourn

PANatsFan · « **Reply #1493 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:06:31 am »

Quote from: MarquisDeSade on July 31, 2011, 10:04:33 am

More like Oliver Perez in 2013!

Damn, I looked it up and he's from mexico. I was hoping he was from PR so it could be Oliver Perez in 2012!

PANatsFan · « **Reply #1494 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:06:51 am »

Quote from: NFA Brian on July 31, 2011, 10:06:06 am

Braves traded the equivalent of Laynce Nix, Brad Meyers, Marcos Frias, & Evan Bronson for Michael Bourn

imref · « **Reply #1495 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:06:55 am »

Quote from: wpa2629 on July 31, 2011, 10:04:45 am

They're not crazy, they're certifiable. Ubaldo has lost velocity and Colorado refused a physical? I mean Good Gawd! If it had been me, it wouldn't be a no, that would be a hell no!

Yeah, just swapping Pomeranz alone for Ubaldo seems like a steal for Colorado. Did you see the numbers he's putting up at A?

Minty Fresh · « **Reply #1496 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:07:18 am »

Quote from: blue911 on July 31, 2011, 09:49:47 am

He came in with a 3 run lead and left with a 3 run lead, what more do people want?

Apparently "wins" don't matter.

imref · « **Reply #1497 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:07:19 am »

Quote from: NFA Brian on July 31, 2011, 10:06:06 am

Braves traded the equivalent of Laynce Nix, Brad Meyers, Marcos Frias, & Evan Bronson for Michael Bourn

ugh - double ugh.

Sigh.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #1498 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:07:25 am »

Quote from: imref on July 31, 2011, 10:06:55 am

Yeah, just swapping Pomeranz alone for Ubaldo seems like a steal for Colorado. Did you see the numbers he's putting up at A?

Ubaldo is really, really fun to say.

wpa2629 · « **Reply #1499 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:08:20 am »

Quote from: imref on July 31, 2011, 10:06:55 am

Yeah, just swapping Pomeranz alone for Ubaldo seems like a steal for Colorado. Did you see the numbers he's putting up at A?

I know, it's completely nuts