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Offline Bloo

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Re: 2012 free agency
« Reply #650 on: October 04, 2011, 09:06:36 pm »

 

Seeing these two post back to back was funny to me. John Lannan career ERA+ 103, Edwin Jackson 97
Especially since they were 5 seconds a part..

Offline zimm_da_kid

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Re: 2012 free agency
« Reply #651 on: October 04, 2011, 09:08:23 pm »
Edwin Jackson looks like an ace some nights then other nights he looks like a pile of crap.  Sounds like a bowden's man crush.

Offline zimm_da_kid

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Re: 2012 free agency
« Reply #652 on: October 04, 2011, 09:23:14 pm »
whoever said that Oswalt would cost us picks is wrong.  He has a team option and if the phils decline it then he wont cost us anything but $$$$$

Offline Vega

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Re: 2012 free agency
« Reply #653 on: October 04, 2011, 09:26:05 pm »
This thread should be merged with the 2012 offseason thread.

Offline Tyler Durden

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Re: 2012 free agency
« Reply #654 on: October 04, 2011, 09:29:51 pm »
whoever said that Oswalt would cost us picks is wrong.  He has a team option and if the phils decline it then he wont cost us anything but $$$$$

Good catch! That was me.  If that's the case then sign me up!

Offline zimm_da_kid

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Re: 2012 free agency
« Reply #655 on: October 04, 2011, 09:44:04 pm »
I heard that he would probably be working on a year to year basis because he has been considering retirement.  So maybe a 1 year deal worth 12 million.  That could bridge the gap to the better FA market next offseason where we can let Oswalt go but get Hamels, Greinke, Cain, or Haren who are all better and younger.  Also remember that the Nats had interest in Oswalt back in 2010 for the first third of the season when they were still in all little above .500 and he said that he liked our club and would waive his no-trade to come to us.  We've only gotten better so I would imagine that interest this offseason would be mutual.

Offline HalfSmokes

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« Reply #656 on: October 04, 2011, 09:51:47 pm »
Why would number of years have any bearing on his ability to retire? A guy like Oswalt willing to go year to year screams Yankees or Red Sox or Phillies- teams that would love a high priced starter without the long term commitment

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Re: 2012 free agency
« Reply #657 on: October 04, 2011, 09:53:54 pm »
I just don't think he would want to commit to more than he feels necessary.

Offline DPMOmaha

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Re: 2012 free agency
« Reply #658 on: October 04, 2011, 10:01:08 pm »
Why would number of years have any bearing on his ability to retire? A guy like Oswalt willing to go year to year screams Yankees or Red Sox or Phillies- teams that would love a high priced starter without the long term commitment

I could see him going back south, too.  To the Rangers perhaps.

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Re: 2012 free agency
« Reply #659 on: October 04, 2011, 10:02:14 pm »
I could see him going back south, too.  To the Rangers perhaps.

They could do that if they can't resign CJ

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« Reply #660 on: October 04, 2011, 10:02:30 pm »
I could see him going back south, too.  To the Rangers perhaps.

That might be the best fit, Wilson is likely gone so he'd add some veterany goodness to their rotations

Offline DPMOmaha

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« Reply #661 on: October 04, 2011, 10:02:48 pm »
They could do that if they can't resign CJ

Or even if they do.

Offline zimm_da_kid

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Re: 2012 free agency
« Reply #662 on: October 04, 2011, 10:02:52 pm »
He might want to stay in the NL though.

Offline DPMOmaha

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Re: 2012 free agency
« Reply #663 on: October 04, 2011, 10:03:31 pm »
He might want to stay in the NL though.

Maybe.  But if he just wants one more go at it, Texas would be a pretty good place to do it.

Offline hammondsnats

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Re: 2012 free agency
« Reply #664 on: October 04, 2011, 10:48:53 pm »
two priorities are frontline starting pitcher (ie, c.j. wilson) and OF that can play near top of line-up (ie, b.j. upton).

Offline MarquisDeSade

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Re: 2012 free agency
« Reply #665 on: October 04, 2011, 10:54:18 pm »
Weren't those the priority last year?

Offline DPMOmaha

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Re: 2012 free agency
« Reply #666 on: October 04, 2011, 10:55:10 pm »
I think it's already been established that the Actas are going to exercise his option.

No, it hasn't. He under went arthroscopic surgery on his knee today or perhaps it was yesterday.  Either way, it's his 5th surgery in the last 3 years.  Indians saying they haven't decided whether or not to pick up the option.

http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2011/10/grady_sizemore_undergoes_arthr.html

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« Reply #667 on: October 04, 2011, 10:57:01 pm »
Weren't those the priority last year?

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Offline HalfSmokes

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« Reply #668 on: October 04, 2011, 10:57:27 pm »
No, it hasn't. He under went arthroscopic surgery on his knee today or perhaps it was yesterday.  Either way, it's his 5th surgery in the last 3 years.  Indians saying they haven't decided whether or not to pick up the option.

http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2011/10/grady_sizemore_undergoes_arthr.html

No more paying free agents to sit on the DL - Marquis and LaRoche should be a lesson


Offline Vega

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Re: 2012 free agency
« Reply #669 on: October 04, 2011, 10:59:49 pm »
No, it hasn't. He under went arthroscopic surgery on his knee today or perhaps it was yesterday.  Either way, it's his 5th surgery in the last 3 years.  Indians saying they haven't decided whether or not to pick up the option.

http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2011/10/grady_sizemore_undergoes_arthr.html
DO NOT WANT. Sizemore has turned in to the position player version of Rich Harden.

Offline zimm_da_kid

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Re: 2012 free agency
« Reply #670 on: October 04, 2011, 11:06:42 pm »
No to Sizemore unless it's an absolute bargain.  Bj upton or denard span would be great.  I would like cj but I would be very cautious.  If the bidding goes over $75 million I would back out.  Sign Oswalt.

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Re: 2012 free agency
« Reply #671 on: October 04, 2011, 11:09:40 pm »
Does Oswalt have ties here? I don't see why he'd choose DC for his swan song

Offline DPMOmaha

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Re: 2012 free agency
« Reply #672 on: October 04, 2011, 11:10:26 pm »
Does Oswalt have ties here? I don't see why he'd choose DC for his swan song

Not that I'm aware of.

Offline zimm_da_kid

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Re: 2012 free agency
« Reply #673 on: October 04, 2011, 11:12:12 pm »
He said he would be willing to come here in 2010 and we have gotten better since then.  We also have money which can be very attractive to sone people.

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Re: 2012 free agency
« Reply #674 on: October 04, 2011, 11:12:40 pm »
No more paying free agents to sit on the DL - Marquis and LaRoche should be a lesson



Laroche isn't fair. They didn't sign him knowing he was injured.