Author Topic: Record while Zimmerman is out? (Read 10294 times)

hammondsnats · « **Reply #200 on:** May 24, 2011, 11:45:35 pm »

season is over

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #201 on:** May 25, 2011, 04:03:04 pm »


1 @ NYM           1-0
3 vs Philly       1-2
3 vs Milwaukee    3-0
3 @ St. Louis     1-2
3 @ Pittsburth    1-2
3 vs NYM          1-2
4 vs San Fran     3-1
3 @ Philly        0-3
3 @ Florida       2-1
3 @ Atlanta       2-1
3 vs Florida      1-2
1 vs Pittsburth   1-0
2 @ NYM           0-2
3 @ Baltimore     1-2
3 @ Milwaukee     0-3
=======================
TOTAL            18-23

The Chief · « **Reply #202 on:** May 30, 2011, 02:47:24 pm »


1 @ NYM           1-0
3 vs Philly       1-2
3 vs Milwaukee    3-0
3 @ St. Louis     1-2
3 @ Pittsburth    1-2
3 vs NYM          1-2
4 vs San Fran     3-1
3 @ Philly        0-3
3 @ Florida       2-1
3 @ Atlanta       2-1
3 vs Florida      1-2
1 vs Pittsburth   1-0
2 @ NYM           0-2
3 @ Baltimore     1-2
3 @ Milwaukee     0-3
3 vs San Diego    1-2
=======================
TOTAL            19-25

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #203 on:** May 30, 2011, 04:22:22 pm »


1 @ NYM           1-0
3 vs Philly       1-2
3 vs Milwaukee    3-0
3 @ St. Louis     1-2
3 @ Pittsburth    1-2
3 vs NYM          1-2
4 vs San Fran     3-1
3 @ Philly        0-3
3 @ Florida       2-1
3 @ Atlanta       2-1
3 vs Florida      1-2
1 vs Pittsburth   1-0
2 @ NYM           0-2
3 @ Baltimore     1-2
3 @ Milwaukee     0-3
3 vs San Diego    1-2
3 vs Philly       0-1
=======================
TOTAL            19-26

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #204 on:** May 30, 2011, 08:58:01 pm »

19-28

hammondsnats · « **Reply #205 on:** May 31, 2011, 12:04:31 pm »

he'll probably be playing in extended spring games soon.

imref · « **Reply #206 on:** May 31, 2011, 02:11:42 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on May 31, 2011, 12:04:31 pm

he'll probably be playing in extended spring games soon.

hopefully a game or two at potomac as well.

imref · « **Reply #207 on:** May 31, 2011, 10:01:12 pm »

he's playing in an extended spring training game TOMORROW!!!!!!!!!

The Chief · « **Reply #208 on:** May 31, 2011, 10:01:49 pm »


1 @ NYM           1-0
3 vs Philly       1-2
3 vs Milwaukee    3-0
3 @ St. Louis     1-2
3 @ Pittsburth    1-2
3 vs NYM          1-2
4 vs San Fran     3-1
3 @ Philly        0-3
3 @ Florida       2-1
3 @ Atlanta       2-1
3 vs Florida      1-2
1 vs Pittsburth   1-0
2 @ NYM           0-2
3 @ Baltimore     1-2
3 @ Milwaukee     0-3
3 vs San Diego    1-2
3 vs Philly       1-1
=======================
TOTAL            20-26

The Chief · « **Reply #209 on:** June 01, 2011, 04:10:55 pm »


1 @ NYM           1-0
3 vs Philly       1-2
3 vs Milwaukee    3-0
3 @ St. Louis     1-2
3 @ Pittsburth    1-2
3 vs NYM          1-2
4 vs San Fran     3-1
3 @ Philly        0-3
3 @ Florida       2-1
3 @ Atlanta       2-1
3 vs Florida      1-2
1 vs Pittsburth   1-0
2 @ NYM           0-2
3 @ Baltimore     1-2
3 @ Milwaukee     0-3
3 vs San Diego    1-2
3 vs Philly       2-1
=======================
TOTAL            21-26

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #210 on:** June 01, 2011, 04:11:33 pm »

Quote from: PatsNats28 on May 30, 2011, 08:58:01 pm

19-28

I rescind my sarcastic post.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #211 on:** June 01, 2011, 06:18:36 pm »

the z-man played in extended spring game today, going 0-for-3 with a walk and played 3 innings @ 3B with nothing hit. he'll get tomorrow off and play again friday. maybe sometime early next week he'll go on a rehab assignment.

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #212 on:** June 01, 2011, 07:03:47 pm »

So we'll maybe see him next weekend/following week?

comish4lif · « **Reply #213 on:** June 01, 2011, 11:20:12 pm »

Quote from: The Chief on June 01, 2011, 04:10:55 pm


1 @ NYM           1-0
3 vs Philly       1-2
3 vs Milwaukee    3-0
3 @ St. Louis     1-2
3 @ Pittsburth    1-2
3 vs NYM          1-2
4 vs San Fran     3-1
3 @ Philly        0-3
3 @ Florida       2-1
3 @ Atlanta       2-1
3 vs Florida      1-2
1 vs Pittsburth   1-0
2 @ NYM           0-2
3 @ Baltimore     1-2
3 @ Milwaukee     0-3
3 vs San Diego    1-2
3 vs Philly       2-1
=======================
TOTAL            21-26

I said 21-27 (page 2 this thread), what do I win?

tomterp · « **Reply #214 on:** June 02, 2011, 08:31:40 am »

Quote from: comish4lif on June 01, 2011, 11:20:12 pm

I said 21-27 (page 2 this thread), what do I win?

Let's wait another game and see.

natsfan4evr · « **Reply #215 on:** June 02, 2011, 09:12:04 am »

According to the Pythagorean W-L record, the Nats have been very unlucky in the win/loss department.
The Nats would be only 3 games under .500 with a record of 26-29.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #216 on:** June 02, 2011, 09:20:54 am »

Quote from: natsfan4evr on June 02, 2011, 09:12:04 am

According to the Pythagorean W-L record, the Nats have been very unlucky in the win/loss department.
The Nats would be only 3 games under .500 with a record of 26-29.

Yes, except Riggleman is one of the all-time worst managers relative to his team's Pythag. You can book it that his team will finish 3 or so games worse than his pythag every year. That he's piled up his 3 games this fast is the only surprise.

natsfan4evr · « **Reply #217 on:** June 02, 2011, 09:30:24 am »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on June 02, 2011, 09:20:54 am

Yes, except Riggleman is one of the all-time worst managers relative to his team's Pythag. You can book it that his team will finish 3 or so games worse than his pythag every year. That he's piled up his 3 games this fast is the only surprise.

You are right, the Nats finished 3 games worse than their Pythagorean w/l last season.
This is kind of shocking, but the Nats finished 7 wins behind their Pythagorean prediction in 2009.

This is a small sample size, but it is still interesting to note:

In 2005 under Frank Robinson, the team finished 4 wins ahead of their prediction
In 2006 still under Frank Robinson, the team finished 1 win behind
In 2007 under Manny Acta, the team finished 3 wins ahead
In 2008 under Manny Acta, the team finished 3 wins behind

Sharp · « **Reply #218 on:** June 02, 2011, 09:36:12 am »

It's not thaat interesting. Most managers' records end right around the Pythagoreans of their teams over enough time. Really, other than Riggleman, I don't think there's anyone who's managed for as long as he has with a significantly different Pythag from his W/L record. Of course, it may just be due to random chance with Riggs.

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #219 on:** June 02, 2011, 05:37:33 pm »

or maybe he sucks

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #220 on:** June 02, 2011, 05:44:11 pm »

It's his hyper overmanaging style that makes him lose close games.

tomterp · « **Reply #221 on:** June 02, 2011, 08:21:48 pm »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on June 02, 2011, 05:44:11 pm

It's his hyper overmanaging style that makes him lose close games.

Play for one run, lose by one run.

He has the Nats bunt way too much to optimize run production. Last year steals (or caught stealing, actually) were a major run killer.

The Chief · « **Reply #222 on:** June 02, 2011, 08:25:41 pm »

So...

2010 Nats finished 3 runs below Pythag
+
2010 Adam Dunn had 3.5 WAR
=
2010 Jim Riggleman almost entirely negated Adam Dunn's contributions?

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #223 on:** June 02, 2011, 10:08:10 pm »

Adam who?
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/adam-dunn-dh-white-sox/

Quote

Joe Pawl had an excellent piece on Adam Dunn’s continued slump earlier this week, discussing how Dunn’s slump has cost the White Sox a few wins off its record and projection so far this year. His article got me thinking: What exactly is wrong with Dunn this year? Dunn has normally been a model of offensive consistency, hitting at least 38 home runs each of the past seven years — but this year, his power has disappeared, he’s striking out at a higher rate and his balls in play aren’t falling for hits. What gives?

Nathan · « **Reply #224 on:** June 02, 2011, 11:52:02 pm »

He has a sad from leaving the Nats?

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Author Topic: Record while Zimmerman is out? (Read 10294 times)