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Offline KnorrForYourMoney

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #925 on: December 24, 2010, 02:14:56 pm »
Lars is an overhyped Boston prospect

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #926 on: December 24, 2010, 02:51:13 pm »
I'd prefer Alberto. Mostly because he's cheaper.

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #927 on: December 24, 2010, 03:25:45 pm »
dude it was a joke. 

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #928 on: December 24, 2010, 03:26:14 pm »
Lars Anderson. 

he's a hell of a drummer too.

Oh wait, wrong Lars.

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #929 on: December 24, 2010, 03:26:58 pm »
I want Youk at 1B in DC.

that might happen the next time we play Boston assuming Adrian is hurt.  Otherwise I wouldn't get to excited about it happening any time soon.

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #930 on: December 24, 2010, 03:40:14 pm »
How about signing the best one available, without giving any players up in the process, ie NO TRADE.   After all, they are trying to replace someone who hit 38 homeruns last year.

...how many other teams ever have to replace a player who hit 38 homeruns in the previous season, without the player's retirement or death?  :roll:

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #931 on: December 24, 2010, 03:57:10 pm »
How about signing the best one available, without giving any players up in the process, ie NO TRADE.   After all, they are trying to replace someone who hit 38 homeruns last year.

...how many other teams ever have to replace a player who hit 38 homeruns in the previous season, without the player's retirement or death?  :roll:

If you unfocus on homers and just say impact players I would say 3-4 teams on average an off-season have to replace a player like that. This off-season Texas, Philadelphia, Boston, Washington, San Diego, Kansas City, and Tampa Bay all had to replace impact players. Texas, San Diego, Kansas City, and Tampa have done less than Washington to replace those they lost.

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #932 on: December 24, 2010, 04:06:09 pm »
How about signing the best one available, without giving any players up in the process, ie NO TRADE.   After all, they are trying to replace someone who hit 38 homeruns last year.

...how many other teams ever have to replace a player who hit 38 homeruns in the previous season, without the player's retirement or death?  :roll:

2001 Oakland A's lost Jason Giambi. The 2002 Oakland A's won 103 games.

1999 Seattle Mariners lost Jr. The 2000 Seattle Mariners won 91 games.


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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #933 on: December 24, 2010, 04:21:44 pm »
If you unfocus on homers and just say impact players I would say 3-4 teams on average an off-season have to replace a player like that. This off-season Texas, Philadelphia, Boston, Washington, San Diego, Kansas City, and Tampa Bay all had to replace impact players. Texas, San Diego, Kansas City, and Tampa have done less than Washington to replace those they lost.

I'd rather focus on homeruns. And even if we expand it, San Diego and Kansas City, traded their players away, not let them walk and Tampa has stated that they are trimming payroll so they actually have an excuse.  If the Lerners had stated they were planning on cutting payroll  :roll:  they'd have an excuse.

The closest comparison would be Texas and they didn't lose 93 games.  They're lost player is being taken away from a better team.

2001 Oakland A's lost Jason Giambi. The 2002 Oakland A's won 103 games.

1999 Seattle Mariners lost Jr. The 2000 Seattle Mariners won 91 games.


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In other words, two.

...or, at least, not many.   :icon_frown:

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #934 on: December 24, 2010, 04:31:24 pm »
I'd rather focus on homeruns. And even if we expand it, San Diego and Kansas City, traded their players away, not let them walk and Tampa has stated that they are trimming payroll so they actually have an excuse.  If the Lerners had stated they were planning on cutting payroll  :roll:  they'd have an excuse.

The closest comparison would be Texas and they didn't lose 93 games.  They're lost player is being taken away from a better team.

In other words, two.

...or, at least, not many.   :icon_frown:

I don't want you to misunderstand me, I wanted Dunn to be resigned. But the Nats had a problem getting the big guy to cross home. If Dunn wasn't driving himself in, basically he was SOL. Last season he batted third 22 times, Ryan Zimmerman didn't drive him in once. Never. Willingham only had 6 RBI's where it runner was Dunn. The guy is slow. For all of his OBP, it's too damn hard to drive him in. This isn't just the Nats, it was happening before he got here. I would love to have Dunn on the team, but he isn't irreplaceable.

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #935 on: December 24, 2010, 04:48:16 pm »
If you unfocus on homers and just say impact players I would say 3-4 teams on average an off-season have to replace a player like that. This off-season Texas, Philadelphia, Boston, Washington, San Diego, Kansas City, and Tampa Bay all had to replace impact players. Texas, San Diego, Kansas City, and Tampa have done less than Washington to replace those they lost.

Boston and Philadelphia did something to replace the impact players they lost. KC, TB and SD are small markets. Let's face it, even though the Nats are not in a small market, the Lerners are running the team like a small market team and are hoping to find lightning in a cheap bottle like TB and SD did.

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #936 on: December 24, 2010, 05:12:26 pm »
I don't want you to misunderstand me, I wanted Dunn to be resigned. But the Nats had a problem getting the big guy to cross home. If Dunn wasn't driving himself in, basically he was SOL. Last season he batted third 22 times, Ryan Zimmerman didn't drive him in once. Never. Willingham only had 6 RBI's where it runner was Dunn. The guy is slow. For all of his OBP, it's too damn hard to drive him in. This isn't just the Nats, it was happening before he got here. I would love to have Dunn on the team, but he isn't irreplaceable.

Are you saying the difference in speed between Dunn and whoever plays first for us this year is going to make up for the loss in power?  That's very unlikely to be the case, if you are.

And remember, the impact of his power was diminished because, so often, when he went deep, he was the only player on base.  A staggeringly high percent of his homeruns were solos.

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #937 on: December 26, 2010, 12:21:49 am »
don't know how much truth there is behind this, but it's getting retweeted by tons of twitter heads:

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#Nationals are favored by LaRoche and D. Lee over the #Orioles - Both would rather play in Washington. The one left could choose B'more

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #938 on: December 26, 2010, 12:49:21 am »
Who wouldn't want to play in DC over Baltimore?

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #939 on: December 26, 2010, 02:55:45 am »
Who wouldn't want to play in DC over Baltimore?

The question is, would you rather face NL East pitchers or AL East pitchers?

NL East:                 AL East:
Roy Halladay          CC Sabathia
Cliff Lee                 Phil Hughes
Roy Oswalt             Ricky Romero           
Cole Hamels           Brendan Morrow
Josh Johnson          Josh Beckett
Ricky Nolasco         Jon Lester
Tim Hudson            David Price
Tommy Hanson       Jeremy Hellickson
Johan Santana        James Shields

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #940 on: December 26, 2010, 02:56:54 am »
The question is, would you rather face NL East pitchers or AL East pitchers?

NL East:                 AL East:
Roy Halladay          CC Sabathia
Cliff Lee                 Phil Hughes
Roy Oswalt             Ricky Romero           
Cole Hamels           Brendan Morrow
Josh Johnson          Josh Beckett
Ricky Nolasco         Jon Lester
Tim Hudson            David Price
Tommy Hanson       Jeremy Hellickson
Johan Santana        James Shields

Neither?

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #941 on: December 26, 2010, 03:23:59 am »

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #942 on: December 26, 2010, 07:31:01 am »
Who wouldn't want to play in DC over Baltimore?

Teen age girls have a lower rate of STDs?

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #943 on: December 26, 2010, 09:01:51 am »
If that's true, Rizzo needs to decide and sign one already.
don't know how much truth there is behind this, but it's getting retweeted by tons of twitter heads:


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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #944 on: December 26, 2010, 10:42:11 am »
Teen age girls have a lower rate of STDs?
If that's true, Rizzo needs to decide and sign one already.

:lol:

(I know what you meant, it was just funny because it was the next post and you didn't quote)

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #945 on: December 26, 2010, 10:55:38 am »
The Nats should just sign both and screw the O's  :D

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #946 on: December 26, 2010, 11:56:31 am »
LOL.  Then trade one of them for a king's ransom.  Plus a controlling stake in MASN.


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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #947 on: December 26, 2010, 12:04:20 pm »
The Nats should just sign both and screw the O's  :D
You mean, they could

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Offline Tyler Durden

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #948 on: December 26, 2010, 01:51:26 pm »
http://www.masnsports.com/phil_wood/2010/12/post-christmas-update.html

Phil Wood with several bits of information in his latest.

Says we talked with the Dodgers about Loney and would have sent them a catcher for him.

Also says that 1B situation should be resolved this week and gives the impression that we're going to come away with Lee.  

I'm pasting the most interesting paragraph below.  Note the tidbits on Werth and Norris.  Really interesting, if true.

From Wood:
Lee's willingness to sign a contract for just a single season makes him all the more attractive to the Nationals, who feel they have other first base options beyond 2011. No one should be terribly surprised to see Jayson Werth move to first base in 2012, with Bryce Harper taking over in right field. Fans should also look for Derek Norris to get playing time in the outfield this year as well as behind the plate. Scouts think his bat will play in the major leagues, and feel he can transition to left field without much problem.

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Re: Nationals new 1B discussion
« Reply #949 on: December 26, 2010, 01:53:23 pm »
Is he smoking the ganja? Wouldn't you rather have Werth and Harper in the outfield and Norris at 1b?