Author Topic: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing (Read 115490 times)

PANatsFan · « **Reply #650 on:** December 18, 2009, 01:27:48 am »

Quote from: KnorrForYourMoney on December 18, 2009, 01:22:32 am

So SF dogs you for being ready to dig up a crappy stat, and you prove him right by using "save percentage"? Oy vey.

For whatever reason, Capps was hit much harder last year than ever before. Still had similar control, still struck guys out at a respectable rate, but his HR and hits allowed went way up. That could be a fluke.

I think it's worth seeing if it was a fluke and going after him.

That save record isn't even good, even if it means little.

That FIP is pretty high.

But sign him, sign Mac, and maybe 1 more guy. The pen needs live arms.

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #651 on:** December 18, 2009, 01:40:14 am »

Quote from: KnorrForYourMoney on December 18, 2009, 01:22:32 am

So SF dogs you for being ready to dig up a crappy stat, and you prove him right by using "save percentage"? Oy vey.

For whatever reason, Capps was hit much harder last year than ever before. Still had similar control, still struck guys out at a respectable rate, but his HR and hits allowed went way up. That could be a fluke.

I think it's worth seeing if it was a fluke and going after him.

Starting in 2006 (first real year):

BABIP:

2006 - .287
2007 - .271
2008 - .272
2009 - .370

I think it's just an off year.

Potomac Cannons · « **Reply #652 on:** December 18, 2009, 03:36:45 am »

Quote from: PatsNats09 on December 18, 2009, 01:40:14 am

Starting in 2006 (first real year):

BABIP:

2006 - .287
2007 - .271
2008 - .272
2009 - .370

I think it's just an off year.

Or.....everyone could learn to read and notice the mention of elbow problems. He went on the DL once and was listed as day-to-day for a good chunk of the season. Despite that, which would lead to his stuff not being quite as good and getting hit a bit more, he upped his save %. That's a pretty good indicator that he's a pitcher and not just some guy with a uncontrollable fastball.

tomterp · « **Reply #653 on:** December 18, 2009, 07:50:22 am »

Quote from: JMadIV on December 18, 2009, 12:53:25 am

Whats with the obsession with macdougal?

He's very popular among those who won his game worn jersey in the Nats Foundation drawing last season.

Minty Fresh · « **Reply #654 on:** December 18, 2009, 08:08:47 am »

Quote from: Dunnkey on December 17, 2009, 10:07:11 pm

Yeah, can you believe people who do that kind of stuff?

Win.

Minty Fresh · « **Reply #655 on:** December 18, 2009, 08:11:42 am »

Quote from: tomterp on December 18, 2009, 07:50:22 am

He's very popular among those who won his game worn jersey in the Nats Foundation drawing last season.

Welcome to Nats Foundation Klej Jersey Wearers

Population: 1

hammondsnats · « **Reply #656 on:** December 18, 2009, 10:17:57 am »

capps > macdougal

we need all the bullpen help we can get ... sign this guy rizzo.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #657 on:** December 18, 2009, 10:55:34 am »

What I love about Capps is that in his career, 271.2 IP, the guy has only walked 50 batters.

Macdougal on the other hand - 312.2, 165 BB.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #658 on:** December 18, 2009, 10:59:10 am »

So, you're saying then, that last year he didn't walk people, he just got light up...

imref · « **Reply #659 on:** December 18, 2009, 12:44:36 pm »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on December 18, 2009, 10:55:34 am

What I love about Capps is that in his career, 271.2 IP, the guy has only walked 50 batters.

Macdougal on the other hand - 312.2, 165 BB.

and on pace for 150 walks in his next 100 IP. He's the Anti-Strasburg.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #660 on:** December 18, 2009, 01:40:17 pm »

Quote from: imref on December 18, 2009, 12:44:36 pm

He's the Anti-Strasburg.

But they both have red hair! We should field a pitching staff of all red haired guys with goatees.

imref · « **Reply #661 on:** December 19, 2009, 11:19:15 am »

According to mlbstraderumors, the Nats aren't interested in Johnny Damon - finally, some good news.

Potomac Cannons · « **Reply #662 on:** December 19, 2009, 11:56:37 am »

Quote from: imref on December 19, 2009, 11:19:15 am

According to mlbstraderumors, the Nats aren't interested in Johnny Damon - finally, some good news.

With his past issues he may just get Debbie Taylor run out of town. That, kids, is a positive.

ronnynat · « **Reply #663 on:** December 19, 2009, 01:13:24 pm »

MLBTR:

The Nationals are making a "strong run" at free agent hurler Jon Garland according to FoxSports.com's Ken Rosenthal. The righthander is looking for a three year deal, however the Nats would prefer to limit a contract to two years. Rosenthal also lists Jason Marquis and Doug Davis and possible targets for Washington.

GM Mike Rizzo confirmed the team's interest in Garland earlier this month, saying "He's one of the 10 names we've been talking about throughout the whole winter." The 30-year-old landed just one year and a guaranteed $7.25MM last offseason, so a three year deal may be a little to ambitious.

The Chief · « **Reply #664 on:** December 19, 2009, 01:26:48 pm »

Somebody will give him three years. I doubt it will be us.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #665 on:** December 19, 2009, 01:49:05 pm »

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Ken Rosenthal: Nats making strong run at Garland. Wants 3 yrs. Nats would prefer two. Other possibilities for Nats: Marquis, D. Davis

I agree with the Nats that I wouldn't give him anything more than 2 years but I believe to get a deal done with him you have to go 3.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #666 on:** December 19, 2009, 01:59:31 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on December 19, 2009, 01:49:05 pm

I agree with the Nats that I wouldn't give him anything more than 2 years but I believe to get a deal done with him you have to go 3.

I don't understand how these guys' minds work. Average value is more important than years, right? Sounds like the agents at work.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #667 on:** December 19, 2009, 02:20:13 pm »

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JCrasnick: New in Rumor Central: OF Randy Winn is on the Nationals' radar: http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/features/rumors

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JCrasnick: The Nationals like Winn's versatility, and think he could be a positive influence on Elijah Dukes. Do they have enough ABs for him?

not a fan

PANatsFan · « **Reply #668 on:** December 19, 2009, 02:25:31 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on December 19, 2009, 02:20:13 pm

not a fan

Good guy, bad hitter. Not needed on this team...

JMW IV · « **Reply #669 on:** December 19, 2009, 02:32:58 pm »

see if garland will take 2 with a team option for a third.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #670 on:** December 19, 2009, 02:38:20 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on December 19, 2009, 01:49:05 pm

I agree with the Nats that I wouldn't give him anything more than 2 years but I believe to get a deal done with him you have to go 3.

I've never been a big Garland fan, although I think he'd help this team. I'd consider 2 years with a vesting option based on innings pitched in year 2. We can always shut him down or trade him as long as he still pitches like he usually has (takes the ball, gives up his 3 - 4 runs over 6 or 7 innings). If he breaks down, then his option does not vest.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #671 on:** December 19, 2009, 02:48:49 pm »

I prefer Willie to Winn at this point in their careers.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #672 on:** December 19, 2009, 02:56:52 pm »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on December 19, 2009, 02:38:20 pm

I've never been a big Garland fan, although I think he'd help this team. I'd consider 2 years with a vesting option based on innings pitched in year 2. We can always shut him down or trade him as long as he still pitches like he usually has (takes the ball, gives up his 3 - 4 runs over 6 or 7 innings). If he breaks down, then his option does not vest.

why not a fan of Garland? He is what he is. Innings eater #4 starter. Will give you a chance to win.

He's durable. Not too old. Can help guide our young starters.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #673 on:** December 19, 2009, 03:13:50 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on December 19, 2009, 02:20:13 pm

not a fan

Weren't we interested in Wynn around the trade deadline or am I thinking of someone else?

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #674 on:** December 19, 2009, 03:26:09 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on December 19, 2009, 02:56:52 pm

why not a fan of Garland? He is what he is. Innings eater #4 starter. Will give you a chance to win.

He's durable. Not too old. Can help guide our young starters.

#4 starter for most means a #2 for the Nats... hell, he'd likely pass Lannan because he was the 'big' name signed this year.