2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing

[JMW IV]

???

Not A Nats Fan.

[PANatsFan]

The Sportsfan/CMD/Hammonds sign breathing players and flush money movement is out of control.

Remember when the Orioles through a ton of money a 3-4 middle relievers like Bradford and Baez. Where did that get them?

[Minty Fresh]

Not A Nats Fan.

Got it.

[PANatsFan]

Got it.

Also known as the AZ special. Wait, that's a bad name.

[Minty Fresh]

Also known as the AZ special. Wait, that's a bad name.

Definitely need a better name.  You've gotta think an AZ special is an Air Zimmerman sandwich with Elijah Dukes and Ronnie Belliard bread with a layer of mayonaise and bacon.

[Evolution33]

Definitely need a better name.  You've gotta think an AZ special is an Air Zimmerman sandwich with Elijah Dukes and Ronnie Belliard bread with a layer of mayonaise and bacon.

Oh god. I read that and got a mental image that was worse than anything else.

[KnorrForYourMoney]

Mike Gonzalez had two injury-riddled seasons before last year.  I think Capps is a better target.

I understand being frustrated with the Nats' offseason so far, but a decision to go after Capps instead of Gonzalez is not something to lament.

[sportsfan882]

... They are good though?

They needed a 3b to play for atleast half the year.. thats why they signed him to a 1 year deal.

I wish we went after Gonzalez as well.

wtf? Atkins sucks and Gonzalez is a hot head and has the tendency to choke.

[sportsfan882]

Mike Gonzalez had two injury-riddled seasons before last year.  I think Capps is a better target.

I understand being frustrated with the Nats' offseason so far, but a decision to go after Capps instead of Gonzalez is not something to lament.

Just takes one team out of the running for Capps.

What is Rizzo waiting for? If you are going to sign Capps, do it now. If you are going to sign Garland or Marquis, do it now.

[The Chief]

Just takes one team out of the running for Capps.

What is Rizzo waiting for? If you are going to sign Capps, do it now. If you are going to sign Garland or Marquis, do it now.

You really have no idea how this works do you?

[sportsfan882]

I know if he waits much longer, all of the good players will be snatched up or will want to sign elsewhere and we will be stuck with the likes of Livan Hernandez.

[blue911]

Who did they have at 3b currently? I see this as a safe signing because hes coming off a bad year. Maybe he'll do something and net them a trade.

For Gonzalez. I would've taken him. Hes effective and we need effective. For them its a step in the right direction.

Ty Wiggington would be considered the incumbent. The problem with Atkins is he has never shown he could hit away from Coors, and he isn't exactly smooth with the glove. What it looks like is the O's picked up another Ty Wiggington.

[JMW IV]

You really have no idea how this works do you?

no, he doesn't.

[Evolution33]

Just takes one team out of the running for Capps.

What is Rizzo waiting for? If you are going to sign Capps, do it now. If you are going to sign Garland or Marquis, do it now.

Does it matter at all to remind you that Capps said he was going to reduce the list from 16 teams to 4-5 teams by the end of the week, and then make his decision from there.

[tomterp]

I know if he waits much longer, all of the good players will be snatched up or will want to sign elsewhere and we will be stuck with the likes of Livan Hernandez.

But sometimes, the price falls and you have more $ available for stocking stuffers.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

The problem with Atkins is he has never shown he could hit away from Coors.

Well, then I'd suggest Angelos sell the naming rights to OPACY to Natty Boh, and get Atkins so drunk he can't tell the difference.

[hammondsnats]

The Sportsfan/CMD/Hammonds sign breathing players and flush money movement is out of control.

Remember when the Orioles through a ton of money a 3-4 middle relievers like Bradford and Baez. Where did that get them?

WTF dude so I'm not allowed to have an opinion?  Atkins was hurt last season and overall wasn't that great, but the two years before that he was good ... look @ his numbers.

Mike Gonzalez is a pretty darn good reliever, better than some of the scraps we've been throwing out there the last several seasons.

I just happened to bring up the O's were making moves, b/c they are up the road from us.  Also pointed out the Mets were fairly quiet too.

[PANatsFan]

WTF dude so I'm not allowed to have an opinion?  Atkins was hurt last season and overall wasn't that great, but the two years before that he was good ... look @ his numbers.

Mike Gonzalez is a pretty darn good reliever, better than some of the scraps we've been throwing out there the last several seasons.

I just happened to bring up the O's were making moves, b/c they are up the road from us.  Also pointed out the Mets were fairly quiet too.

You can have opinions, but the idea that the team should throw money out there to satisfy 3 message board users who don't really know what's going on behind the scenes is silly. Sportsfan has stated that he wants moves to be made to make his winter more interesting. CMD said they should make moves now rather than later, ignoring the fact that Rizzo probably doesn't announce the offers he has out there, to avoid the mockery the Orioles are getting for bidding on Holliday.

[NatsDad14]

WTF dude so I'm not allowed to have an opinion?  Atkins was hurt last season and overall wasn't that great, but the two years before that he was good ... look @ his numbers.

Mike Gonzalez is a pretty darn good reliever, better than some of the scraps we've been throwing out there the last several seasons.

I just happened to bring up the O's were making moves, b/c they are up the road from us.  Also pointed out the Mets were fairly quiet too.

Atkins hasn't been good since 2006.

[hammondsnats]

You can have opinions, but the idea that the team should throw money out there to satisfy 3 message board users who don't really know what's going on behind the scenes is silly. Sportsfan has stated that he wants moves to be made to make his winter more interesting. CMD said they should make moves now rather than later, ignoring the fact that Rizzo probably doesn't announce the offers he has out there, to avoid the mockery the Orioles are getting for bidding on Holliday.

Again I'm never said we should spend just to spend!  Get that out of your head.

And also I simply stated the O's were making moves in the offseason that's it.

[Minty Fresh]

WTF dude so I'm not allowed to have an opinion?  Atkins was hurt last season and overall wasn't that great, but the two years before that he was good ... look @ his numbers.

Mike Gonzalez is a pretty darn good reliever, better than some of the scraps we've been throwing out there the last several seasons.

I just happened to bring up the O's were making moves, b/c they are up the road from us.  Also pointed out the Mets were fairly quiet too.

A Mike Gonzalez signing and a Garrett Atkins signing may be what you wrote down, but to ignore the fact that you subtly banged your drum (AGAIN) can't be overlooked. 

I for one am perfectly content not going after players like Garrett Atkins.  Gonzalez is nothing more than serviceable on a decent team and he has no impact on this team.

[The Chief]

I'm guessing Rizzo didn't want to give up a pick for Gonzalez, which I agree with.

[cmdterps44]

The Sportsfan/CMD/Hammonds sign breathing players and flush money movement is out of control.

Remember when the Orioles through a ton of money a 3-4 middle relievers like Bradford and Baez. Where did that get them?

For the last time: I AM NOT SAYING SIGN WHATEVER THE freak WE CAN GET.


I am saying MAKE AN OFFER TO WHAT WE ARE INTERESTED IN TO MAKE THEM INTERESTED IN COMING HERE SOONER than risking someone else putting an offer on the table.

Why do people keep bringing up "oh so you want us to sign bad players?" Where the freak did I say that?

wtf? Atkins sucks and Gonzalez is a hot head and has the tendency to choke.

I'm not saying hes a good player (Atkins) but its worth a try to a guy whos had some decent seasons before last season. He isn't anything spectacular but he works well for them.. Its about having someone at third then forcing your young guys up.

Oh no. A reliever/closer chokes? Thats preposterous!! Look at our relievers/old relievers, we used to have an arsenal full of them. We are cleaning out those rats but he would've been good. I'd still take Capps over him but were do you get that hes a hot head. His numbers look pretty good aside from his 2008 year were he played 18 games.

[PANatsFan]

The Nats are after Garland and Marquis. They've made it know, and probably have offers. Then those players need to weigh those offers with other opportunities and make their decision. Pressure from the Nats to decide faster would be a bad idea. What else does anyone want?

[tomterp]

What else does anyone want?

Heads to roll.