Author Topic: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing (Read 115736 times)

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #325 on:** December 14, 2009, 09:33:40 pm »

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/2009/12/olsen_capps_kasten.html

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The Nats have serious interest in reliever Matt Capps, formerly of the Pittsburgh Pirates. And Capps has serious interest in the Nats. Capps, non-tendered over the weekend, has attracted interest from roughly a dozen teams, but his agent, Paul Kinzer, said that the Nats are in a group of six or seven finalists. Within a few days, Capps wants to further narrow his list, perhaps to three teams -- and the Nats are likely to be on that list, too, Kinzer said.

Capps wants another opportunity to close, and Washington might represent just the situation for him. During the last three years, the righty saved 66 games for the Pirates. Though he had a combined 2.58 ERA from 2007 to 2008, that number soared to 5.80 in 2009.

The Chief · « **Reply #326 on:** December 14, 2009, 09:37:14 pm »

Get it done Rizzo. Pay that man his money.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #327 on:** December 14, 2009, 09:38:20 pm »

It seems like a perfect fit. We literally have no closer right now and I don't know on how many teams Capps can go to that will give him the opportunity he will get here.

JMW IV · « **Reply #328 on:** December 14, 2009, 09:51:31 pm »

GET IT DONE RIZZO.

make it happen. Overpay if necessary

JMW IV · « **Reply #329 on:** December 14, 2009, 09:53:00 pm »

But not by much.

Potomac Cannons · « **Reply #330 on:** December 14, 2009, 10:23:56 pm »

How about a 2 year deal for 6.5m, 3 in 2010 and 3.5 in 2011, with a team option of 4.5m in 2012 if Capps performs well? He would be 29 near the end of the 2012 season and by that time he'd either be Storen's set-up man or he could go somewhere else while Storen closes for the next 5+ years.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #331 on:** December 14, 2009, 11:13:12 pm »

How is possible that as the Nats continue to collect ex-Pirates, they get better and better?

Potomac Cannons · « **Reply #332 on:** December 14, 2009, 11:21:27 pm »

Quote from: PANatsFan on December 14, 2009, 11:13:12 pm

How is possible that as the Nats continue to collect ex-Pirates, they get better and better?

Um....because we don't waste our efforts on the Freddy Sanchez's of their system.

Nathan · « **Reply #333 on:** December 14, 2009, 11:39:34 pm »

Quote from: PANatsFan on December 14, 2009, 11:13:12 pm

How is possible that as the Nats continue to collect ex-Pirates, they get better and better?

Better ex-Pirates than ex-Reds.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #334 on:** December 14, 2009, 11:45:54 pm »

Quote from: Nathan on December 14, 2009, 11:39:34 pm

Better ex-Pirates than ex-Reds.

uhhh...

Nathan · « **Reply #335 on:** December 14, 2009, 11:46:43 pm »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on December 14, 2009, 11:45:54 pm

uhhh...

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DPMOmaha · « **Reply #336 on:** December 14, 2009, 11:47:39 pm »

I'm curious, other than the trade for Morgan and Burnett, who are the other Pirates? I'm drawing a blank. I'm not counting Capps since he's not actually a Nat yet.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #337 on:** December 14, 2009, 11:48:35 pm »

Quote from: Nathan on December 14, 2009, 11:46:43 pm

?

They're both gawdawful teams, just like we are and the Pirates have been worse than the Reds, how are ex-Bucs better than ex-Reds?

natsfan4evr · « **Reply #338 on:** December 14, 2009, 11:50:55 pm »

Would Capps be OK with backing up Storen, even though Storen is younger? I don't know much about Capps as a person, but I think from what I've seen, that he's a legitimate 8th inning guy.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #339 on:** December 14, 2009, 11:52:15 pm »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on December 14, 2009, 11:48:35 pm

They're both gawdawful teams, just like we are and the Pirates have been worse than the Reds, how are ex-Bucs better than ex-Reds?

This.

Quote from: DPMOmaha on December 14, 2009, 11:47:39 pm

I'm curious, other than the trade for Morgan and Burnett, who are the other Pirates? I'm drawing a blank. I'm not counting Capps since he's not actually a Nat yet.

Yeah I meant Capps. Although I would love to cut Nieves and trade for Doumit.

Nathan · « **Reply #340 on:** December 14, 2009, 11:54:01 pm »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on December 14, 2009, 11:48:35 pm

They're both gawdawful teams, just like we are and the Pirates have been worse than the Reds, how are ex-Bucs better than ex-Reds?

Because the Pirates have had good players over the years and trade them away for junk. Really the only thing I'm going off of is that Morgan + Burnett >>> Kearns, FLop, WMP, etc.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #341 on:** December 14, 2009, 11:56:27 pm »

Quote from: PANatsFan on December 14, 2009, 11:52:15 pm

This.
Yeah I meant Capps. Although I would love to cut Nieves and trade for Doumit.

Gotcha.

As we know, there can be good players on bad teams. Don't take my skepticism to mean I don't like the players we've got from Pittsburgh. I really like Morgan and Burnett and I think Capps would be a huge upgrade over someone like...Villione or several other guys in the pen. I think Dunn brings a lot to this team too, so it seems like we're getting several of the better guys off those bad teams, so we'll see, just don't get too many of them. There's a reason those two teams are bad like us.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #342 on:** December 14, 2009, 11:57:20 pm »

Quote from: Nathan on December 14, 2009, 11:54:01 pm

Really the only thing I'm going off of is that Morgan + Burnett >>> Kearns, FLop, WMP, etc.

Totally agree, though I think Dunn has worked out alright too.

Nathan · « **Reply #343 on:** December 14, 2009, 11:59:02 pm »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on December 14, 2009, 11:57:20 pm

Totally agree, though I think Dunn has worked out alright too.

Well I don't count him as an ex-Red

I guess I shouldn't count WMP either then.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #344 on:** December 15, 2009, 12:00:27 am »

I think we can count them both...

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #345 on:** December 15, 2009, 12:10:03 am »

That's why I was glad Rizzo brought in two guys with rings (Bruney and I-Rod). I hope he continues to bring in winners to help change the environment here in D.C.

Nathan · « **Reply #346 on:** December 15, 2009, 12:21:30 am »

As of right now I think this team is already better than it was last season.

Dunn
Willingham
Morgan
Desmond
Zimmerman
Burnett
Pudge
Lannan
Clippard
Bruney
Hopefully healthy Flores
Hopefully effective Olsen

possibly Storen and Strasburg at some point

The MI is still a question mark, and we need a few bp arms and hopefully 2 starters. I think the above will make a healthy core and with a few more pieces this team will be much better. Probably not contenders yet but should play easily better than last year's record.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #347 on:** December 15, 2009, 12:26:14 am »

It does seem that way but it also feels like we are saying the same thing every off-season and it never turns out how we envision it.

The rotation is still a big question mark. We absolutely, positively have to sign 2 FA starters. I am thinking they get one average guy (i.e. Garland, Washburn, etc) and then settle for Livan.

I am not fully sold on Guzman and Desmond in the middle infield. I really would have liked to seen us go after Hudson or a DeRosa.

Not sold on Dukes in the OF.

Potomac Cannons · « **Reply #348 on:** December 15, 2009, 12:26:23 am »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on December 15, 2009, 12:10:03 am

That's why I was glad Rizzo brought in two guys with rings (Bruney and I-Rod). I hope he continues to bring in winners to help change the environment here in D.C.

Can I smoke pot with you?

Nathan · « **Reply #349 on:** December 15, 2009, 12:30:07 am »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on December 15, 2009, 12:26:14 am

It does seem that way but it also feels like we are saying the same thing every off-season and it never turns out how we envision it.

The rotation is still a big question mark. We absolutely, positively have to sign 2 FA starters. I am thinking they get one average guy (i.e. Garland, Washburn, etc) and then settle for Livan.

I am not fully sold on Guzman and Desmond in the middle infield. I really would have liked to seen us go after Hudson or a DeRosa.

Not sold on Dukes in the OF.

Well this is the first time I've really been in to a team enough to follow an offseason closely. Became a fan 2008 but didn't follow as closely as this year.

Agreed about Dukes, but that is not as big of a worry as the pitching.